I don’t see the problem. No one presented with symptoms before getting on, and as soon as there was a medical issue, they stopped and 911 was called. Everyone acted the way they were supposed to. Kid was going to die no matter what.
A child dies on a bus where they shouldn’t have even been in the first place due to lying politicians.
You: I don’t see the problem.
Really?
According to the article, everyone did what they could as soon as the problem was known. Are busses dangerous?
Maybe I could’ve worded it better, but Im not sure how.
Maybe they could have checked the kid out before putting him on the bus rather than as soon as there was a problem. I mean if you’re going to illegally deport people from a state, something that states absolutely do not have the right to do, the least you could do is give them a physical before doing it.
They are not forced to get on the bus, they are just given the option. Common myth.
They are lied to. You can’t seriously be arguing that lying to someone is a valid option.
Got a source?
When authorities have lied so often before why would you believe, without quesion, what they say happened here?
I’ll wait for the investigation to be completed first.
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I would not call this sufficient testing, but again, there is only so much that can be done and this sort of transport should not even be occurring. I however do know the process in and out.
Having said that, the process is that before letting them on the bus, TDEM does a temperature check for COVID or other ILI symptoms, and also ask the adults if they have any symptoms. There is also a medical review that CBP does prior to even having that release from time in custody.
Once on the bus, there is the driver, and the security guard, neither of which have medical responsibility.
Source: I know the person that created this process very well.
Source: I know the person that created this process very well.
How many times have you punched them in the face for being a monster? Because if it’s less than one, you’re complicit.
We moved away from Texas and that job due to exactly this actually. Put principle ahead of anything else.
As the conservatives cheer…
That’s a murder charge if the parents did it so it should be the same for Abbott.
Jayzuz America. What in the fuck are you doing???
Murder??? What are you basing that on?
Completely agree with you. It’s probably involuntary manslaughter due to gross negligence.
Or just happenstance. People have medical issues sometimes, it’s unlikely that there’s any criminality involved in my opinion.
it’s unlikely that there’s any criminality involved in my opinion.
Depends on the criminality of government entities coercing migrant families into cross-state bus rides to be dropped off on the street…Unfortunately, you seem to be right.
The dead child, I would wager.
In a perfect world no child would ever die, but in our world children die sometimes. Medical problems do not discriminate.
If only there were some sort of way to ensure children don’t have any serious medical problems before you lie to them to illegally transport them over state lines…
We have no information to say that they were lied to or that the transport method is illegal.
Except for, you know, how that’s how they keep doing it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/04/migrants-california-left-outside-church
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/1123109768/migrants-sent-to-marthas-vineyard
But I’m sure they were honest this time.
He won’t stop because the cruelty is the point
That’s disingenuous.
The point is to seem like he’s got a plan for the migrant crisis by bussing them out of state.
And if he sends them to Blue states where services are better for undocumented migrants, isn’t that better for the individuals? Or would they really be better off in Texas?
Regardless, my point is, if you don’t try to understand why your political opponent is doing something, you’ll never be able to fix anything.
Why won’t anybody think of poor Greg!!!
Yes, his plan is to be cruel.
Hitler had a plan to solve the financial crisis by oppressing jews. Is it disingenuous to say the cruelty was the point? Should we actually be talking about Hitler’s terrible economic ideas?
To be fair, it WAS a pretty terrible long term economic plan to attempt to systematically murder huge swaths of your citizenry.
It is just that the moral, ethical, humane, etc horrors of that direction are much more important.
this is disingenuous.
if abbot wanted to reduce the suffering of migrants he would coordinate with sanctuary cities to better allocate resources.
suffering is the goal.
Regardless, my point is, if you don’t try to understand why your political opponent is doing something, you’ll never be able to fix anything.
I agree, but there’s not much more “understanding” necessary when we’re dealing with child death. If nothing gets fixed after this, then what’s left to try to understand?
Mission accomplished from his voters’ perspective.
Jail.
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Ignorant mf
I don’t think the online backlash matters. The real question is if Abbott is receiving any backlash in Texas and it appears probably not much, if any. Texans need to step up here and they don’t seem to be doing that.
Half of us have tried and tried to vote this asshole and his cohorts out. The other half re-elect republicans after school shootings.
Personally I wish this state would break itself up into five smaller states so at least one of the five might be run by sane people.
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This but unironically
Blue areas tend to be disgusted with his actions, red don’t care at best or think, “well that’s what they get trying to cross illegally”. The problem however, is that the districts are gerrymandered like crazy and the actual polling places tend to disproportionately be in Republican areas, which makes it hard for Democrats to get a real hold anywhere they don’t already have control of. Additionally, the Democrats really feel like they aren’t sending their best. Iirc Beto didn’t originally want to run for governor, but he did because all the other options were so bad that very few people even knew who they were.
Not.All.Texans.
But most of their voters sadly.
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I don’t understand why the federal government allows these buses (or chartered planes, or whatever) to continue. Since it involves crossing state borders, don’t the feds have jurisdiction?
I don’t know what the passengers were told in this instance, but in other cases, people were lied to. They agreed to go because were told they would be getting jobs and homes. I don’t think they would have voluntarily gone if they were told the truth - “we’re going to dump you somewhere as a political stunt. We’re not giving them any prior notice, so it’s anyone’s guess as to how you and your family will be taken care of. We don’t care, because to us, you’re not people. You’re just tools we’ll use to own the libs.”
When some creep lures a kid into a van with the promise of candy, and then drives them halfway across the country, we call it kidnapping. Why hasn’t anyone been prosecuted?
IIRC it’s being worked on. I think they’re working on builing a case.
I certainly hope so! Thanks!
Texas: Dead migrant children are a feature, not a bug.
As a Texan it makes me sad and angry that our government is doing this to people looking for a better life for themselves and their kids. I can’t argue that what you say is exactly what it looks like to the rest of the civilized world. I wish it weren’t that way.
I know it’s not the whole State. But holy crap, the optics are not good. Looking at Florida as well.
This isn’t even the first migrant child he’s killed with his inhumane policies. This won’t even faze this disgusting piece of shit.
Actually, he’ll walk with slightly more pep in his step. He’s making a difference. He got what he wanted most.
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Big pro life energy
Oh, no! Backlash? Whatever shall he do?
(Hint: the same thing he always does due to lack of consequences)
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