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AskReddit is over run by bots.FTFY
It’s still okay for niche communities, and that’s probably why people still go there
Exactly. In specific communities it’s by far the best discussion platform. And I don’t go to a site first discussion second, other way around, so to reddit I go for those.
Yep I can confirm, I lived in my tiny reddit bubble a lot of time to care about trending shit and bots stuff.
People go there because they don’t care about interacting with other human beings. They just want an echo chamber and to occasionally feel like they are an Influencer.
And you can see the same at lemmy. Someone posts something someone doesn’t like? Immediate downvote (and, for the more pathetic people, downvoting on a few alts as well) with no comment or even attempt to refute things other than MAYBE an ad hominem. And plenty of “What is your favorite X” spam-engagement posts that just involve repeating whatever marketing schpiel they heard in the past.
There has been a recent tendency for people to reference social media network sites that are nothing but bots and… it is increasingly obvious that that is what most people want. They want to feel like they are the tastemakers. They want to be moistcritical without needing to focus test the most normy of center-right takes.
Yes, it’s good to realise that lemmy is just as much an echo chamber as reddit is. Same echoes, differnet voice. But don’t you dare actually having a different voice, that will not be appreciate. People want to have discussions, but only with yes men.
stop saying the truth. it hurts their feelings.
Someone posts something someone doesn’t like? Immediate downvote
Well, yeah. That is what the button is for.
It’s supposed to be for bad faith posts/comments not just for disagreement
I downvote comments that promote hateful ideologies, whether or no they were posted in bad faith. I also downvote posts that derail the conversation, whether or not I think they were posted in bad faith because it is impossible to know if someone is posting in good faith from an individual post. By the time a pattern is clear the thread is derailed.
Context also matters, because the same post about grilled mushrooms as a substitute for grilled steaks will be posted in good faith to different posts and be a net positive or negative depending on the post. A post about grilling in general? Positive, because it adds to the topic! A post about the best cut of beef for grilling? Negative, because it derails the thread to be about not eating beef.
Sure, people should not be downvoting non-important topics or views that they could just block instead. But a lot of people also assume bad faith when someone disagrees with them, so that isn’t good criteria either.
Those are also good reasons, i.e. more than just “I disagree”
It’s supposed to be for whatever the fuck you want to use it for. There’s no downvote police on lemmy.
Personally, I upvote every reply I get and nothing else.Ultimately, it’s supposed to be used to make post/comments less visible, for whatever reason.
And it doesn’t really have much of an effect on lemmy at all.
Sick burn and true, we have so few comments that we read all of them anyway.
The user volume to support niche communities is the most obvious thing missing in Lemmy. But I have a darker view of the future. Picture LLM bots forging organic-looking conversations that result in a product recommendation. It looks like a genuine human conversation, but it’s actually an advertisement. Maybe it’s mixed with some human comments, but that may only add to the realism of the fraud.
That kind of ”advertising“ could potentially command a lot of money. And it could probably eventually infect just about any text platform. Maybe Lemmy as well someday?
You could deploy it pretty effectively in sufficiently large niche communities.
Picture LLM bots forging organic-looking conversations that result in a product recommendation.
Thanks for the confirmation. Ugh.
This for sure. It’s something severely lacking at Lemmy, without the large user base the small communities can’t sustain the way they do on Reddit. Lemmy serves best as a replacement for the biggest subs.
I noticed I’m not even missing the small subs anymore.
4 different meme subs about an obscure Romanian soap opera don’t improve my quality of life.In all honesty the lack of super specific and active communities on lemmy has actually improved my quality of life. I spend much, much less time scrolling and reading shit.
It’s a valid point, but it’s kind of like saying it’s great that the restaurant you’ve started going to has such a small menu compared to the old one because you’re not eating as much.
I’m a picky eater so yeah that works for me
Hobby subs are the big one. If your hobby is anything other than dicking around with Linux, we probably don’t have much of a community for it, if we have one at all.
Truth. RVs and sailboats are not here. But I feel confident I’d get all the discussion I need if I wanted to install Linux on my sailboat.
Have you considered a Framework sailboat? They’re a little more expensive, but they’re designed with repairability in mind, and come with Linux pre-installed
Framework sailboats are overpriced garbage!!
You would be better off with a thinkboat x61s
Memes no, but I’ve found a lot of value in things like my hometown has a pretty active sub on Reddit which is useful for local information or subs around specific TV shows or video games bring a lot of interesting discussion or just asking questions on niche topics I’m much more likely to get an answer from a larger user base.
My home town subreddit has seen at least 1 news years eve orgy organised through it, havent seen anything comparable on lemmy!
A lot of the site feels like it’s been overrun by bots. The more niche communities seem to still be pretty good (and I do still enjoy engaging in them). But the subs like ask Reddit, Aita and the relationships one? Yea, it all feels like bs.
If only the niche communities over here were a bit more active. For instance, I’ve been hyperfixating on Tamagotchi, but there isn’t a Tamagotchi community here yet :(
Create one, friend! It’ll start off slow, but it may build up.
You should make one!
I’d like to, but I’ve never really run a community before and I need some pointers 😓
for real!! im also currently fixated on tamagotchis and the tamagotchi sub is the only active community i could find, im pretty sure tamatalk has been dead for a while :[
I stay away from any big subs now. The smaller stuff that tends to have 2 to 15 posts a day (like game specific subs) feel like they did before. Although I really feel a lot of those are going to discord as well.
Yea same. Now that you mention that, gaming really is one of the only reasons I’m on there anymore. Destiny for example, still has a pretty active sub. But to your point, the couple discord groups I’ve joined over the past couple years are way better.
I think it’s due to the fact that a lot of mods left and the API changes made it harder to auto moderate subs.
Using this low of a contrast (dark red on dark background) is criminal. Maybe my eyes are just that bad but good lord those notes are hard to read
This just proves that OP is not a bot, he is a dumb human like us
Not necessarily. Bots can read text equally well on any colour. This might prove he is a bot.
In any case, a crime has been committed. Call the cops.
It’s not even mine, I put the source in the post.
But I agree with the poor colour choice
After this comment I am exactly 27.3% more suspicious of OP being a bot after all.
Yeah it’s awful. My vision is pretty good but this literally hurts to look at
The worst part is that they’re all really fucking bland questions. The shit you’d see on Facebook.
They’re engagement fodder designed to elicit human responses to provide a larger training dataset for future LLMs. That and to drive up Reddit usage and engagement numbers.
Honestly though. No one really cared about the original post anyways. The comments are the actual content.
AskReddit is just simple mindless enjoyment to pass the time, nothing wrong with that.
News flash: it’s not just ask Reddit. It’s Reddit entirely. That place is a shithole of bots.
Beep, boop! I am a bot, and this action was performed naturally.
Am I really a bot though?
The only good answers I find to things are 3+ years old.
Yeah. That or niche subreddits that just aren’t popular enough to warrant bots. Like specific game communities. But even some of the big ones are full of bots.
If reddit hadn’t locked their API behind absurd paywalls, it would have been a cool project to try to make a browser plugin that gives accounts a “credit score” based on the factors you’ve been looking at, in order to let users quickly judge how likely an account is a bot.
It could let people adjust the metrics it uses to calculate that score in the settings, so even if it becomes popular enough for bots to start trying to game the system, people can adapt their scoring metrics themselves and share config profiles that they think are more effective at rating bots.
Might be something cool to see for activitypub/fediverse/lemmy accounts, but with the data available varying by instance it might be a little harder to calibrate a “catch-all” scoring config
No offence to anyone here but fuck Reddit!
There was some nsfw bots I saw and some.karma farm bots some accounts looked like real users one of them only posted purely on that subreddit
They buy real accounts with established histories and karma. I even had a DM about selling my account for $200 in BTC a few years back. Probably would have if I didn’t like my user name.
makes sense but i remember i saw peoples dms they say wild nsfw stuff and one time someone dmed me a dagger for sale
I never got anything other than spam for DMs.
Ok this red on black contrast is awful on the eyes.
I’ve never understood what anyone gets out of hosting and spamming reddit with bots
Mature accounts with some activity are worth money to people looking to AstroTurf political discussions.
Not just political, it helps brands advertise as well
How much can I make with a 10 yo account with average karma? Where can i sell it?
Web queries work best, first two results
https://www.playerup.com/accounts/redditaccount/
https://swapd.co/c/social-media/buy-sell-reddit/99
But look around and see a place that you feel comfortable with
Even ebay works
Huh, even the most “aged” and high-karma accounts seem to top out under $1k, average for a well-used account seems $300-500, and most for way less. Wonder how many sales are actually made.
Selling accounts with high karma to people wanting to push an agenda with a seemingly legit account
I haven’t thought about Reddit since the mod ban but aren’t people being paid to make content? So could be mass farming nickels?
Conspiracy hat on:
It’s done by Reddit themselves. They know user visits are dropping. They know power users have slipped. To avoid making it look like a desert, they have bots create content.
Reddit’s origin story is sockpuppeting as users.
They’ll do it again
Conspiracy: Reddit sells bots and bot acquired analytics to high paying corpos, but are losing sales to secondary markets undercutting the reddit sold bots.
The 9Gag way…
Could also be so they can make more ad money, since it makes it look like more people use the site, and more people see the ads. Allows them to get more money from advertisers.
My friend still uses reddit
The difference between now and then though, is they were a private company.
Unless they disclose they use bots to post content and make the site look active, any use of user count and engagement for any aspect of the company becomes fraud as its misleading investors.
Oh we have 1 million posts an hour! Fraud.
Oh we have 100 million monthly active users! Fraud!
Investors Q/A - do you use bots? Answer No. Fraud.
They can pay a random LLC to do it for them.
Q&A do you use bots to generate content or have you used any 3rd party that uses bots themselves directly or through another party.
As long as its asked and it gets leaked they lied it’s fraud.
Plausible deniability doesn’t work if proof comes out.
You don’t hire a hitman and get off scott free when proof comes out you hired a hitman.
Fraud doesn’t really stop a big company, if they can get away with it.
Facebook for example.
And whose to say it’s not them directly, but a “third party who Reddit pays for user acquisition” services?
I would almost be okay with a proffer that it is bots asking the questions, but that the discourse is between human beings. That’s all I really care about. It’s rare that I respond directly to OP, or at least I do so less frequently than I’m responding to someone in the comments.
I remember back in the early days on forums, sometimes they’d just feel dead, and it was mainly a lack of content (threads). Once a thread would open, us morons behind keyboards could talk it to death, or more likely just divert in perpetuity.
That’s a really good use for bots, since new users haven’t seen the best posts and may actually enjoy discussing them. Older users can simply move on, filter from their stream if they get bored of it.
remember when they banned bots on r/mademesmile or something and there were no posts anymore?
How could mods ban all the bots posing as human users?
Wasn’t that just recently?
Wholesome memes, actually.
AskReddit was a junk pit anyway, so it would not be a loss, even if it wasn’t reddit.
Oh no!
Anyway.
