Sample bias. The unhealthy and depressed people were less likely to be out being active and having fun.
Note the lack of drinking water and sanitary facilities with the crowd that size and become a wizard that predicts the future now past.
I visited the US in 1999.
After I left, everything turned to shit.Thanks to you. You shouldn’t have left.
Fuck you, get back over here. How dare you steal our happiness.
The peak of our civilization.
^According to Mr. Smith.^
It really seems like it was.
So its all YOUR fault! GETTIM
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True, when I see a modern concert recording, all I see are sad and sobbing people, hating that they are at a concert
Do you see people behind smartphones they’re holding??
The phone thing is so ridiculous. Stay at home and watch someone else’s video at that point. The compulsion to document everything that happens to yourself is something I just don’t get.
Idk, it was a thing in the early 2000s as well. I remember my friends sharing flip-phone quality videos with me of concerts they went to, so sharing experiences via digital recording isn’t anything new.
I also think it’s dumb, but it’s not particularly new.
Oh Jesus Christ if I have to ever see someone’s fireworks pics ever again please use this pillow to suffocate me. Also individuals’ moon shots. Just please no.
Phones should capture memories, and they should be shared with those who have the same memories. If I want to watch a video of fireworks or nature, there are so many higher quality options available.
Thats a really good point about sharing them with people who were part of them.
This is probably my biggest boomer opinion. People need to know that i was here, people need to know how much fun i’m having. If people don’t know how amazing my life is, what’s even the point of going out?
My tinfoil opinion is because of social media traveling is now everyone’s favourite hobby. Tinder is just full of women who use the planet as a background to take their picture in front of.
When i was little, the worst part about other people’s holidays was that there was a chance that they invited you to their homes to watch their boring dia shows of their vacation. Now it’s almost impossible to not look at someone’s vacation
My wife’s father does this every vacation, this year the presentation took over an hour. Mans got a giant ego for sure.
Bonus though, when he went to share it he accidentally pulled up his cialis receipt in his email for his daughter and I to see!
What smartphones are you seeing exactly? This looks like a Limp Bizkit set with some professional photographers right up the front. Nobody had smartphones at the time and even if you pulled one out there you’d have lost it in the pit.
Can confirm. Everyone hate to be in front of Tailor Swift. They all yell at her at one point.
and when she comes out they all scream in pure terror. It must be horrible
When I went to my first Riot Fest I looked around and was like, “Damn, did they shut down the punk rock retirement home?”
Then I realized I had just turned 31 and couldn’t trust myself any more.
The fat girls were on the ground being raped :(
Don’t romanticize the 90s.
I was there Gandalf. I was there 3000 years ago…
This is fred durst at Woodstock 99. Decidedly everyone there was not happy, and after this set everyone was less happy . Has to do with 90s generation being not happy generally.
There were def fatties back then too. But time has progressed and things have only got worse.
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Now now, let’s not jump to conclusions. Anon might have a brain injury.
It’s normalized in the US to be fat. All the people around are fat too, so they are rarely shaming. You’ll fit right in.
If you’re the only fat one in the group (like when you go to most of Asia) they usually make sure you know - repeatedly - that you’re the fat one. It’s a pretty big incentive to not be that one.
If everyone else is fat too, then why bother (aside from the million health and happiness reasons)
Yup, I’m all for pushing against “body shaming,” but that doesn’t mean we have to just be okay with so many of our friends living unhealthy lifestyles. Encourage those you care for to live a healthier life.
Could also be the enshittification of our food and culture including:
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Demonization of “fat” in foods leading to “fat free” foods being considered healthy when fats are actually good and necessary in the diet which leads to over consumption. (Don’t get me started on the sugar and corn lobby)
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Hyper processed food removing micronutrients necessary for our brains to tell us we’re full.
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Hyper processed foods being cheaper than whole foods
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Hyper processed foods being super addictive and unwilling at the same time.
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Food deserts making fast food and convenience store food the only easily accessible food in many areas.
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The lack of knowledge/skills with respect to home cooking and the deemphasis of “home economics” type knowledge in general…
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The lack of free time required to both cook and pass on those skills
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The growing understanding of how perfluorinated materials (PFA, PFOA, PTFE) fuck with our body chemistry including contributing to obesity. Don’t get me started on how much companies like DuPont hid and lied about that stuff (and still are).
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Sedentary lifestyle…
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There’s more but I hope you get the point
Basically what I’m saying is people were fat before “fat shaming” was looked down upon and late stage capitalism is frequently pulling the levers behind the curtain in many areas including this. You’re also talking about “fixing” the outcome instead of preventing the cause which is several orders of magnitude more difficult. The US has abundant wealth but that hasnt specifically translated to better health outcomes. And do you really think middle schoolers have evolved to the point where they don’t bully fat kids? There are very few obese people (both children and adults) out there who don’t feel shitty about how they look regardless of who tells them they should feel that way.
The point of trying to inhibit fat shaming and bullying of all kinds is so people don’t become reclusive and anti-social, pick up bad habits (such as drug addiction and eating disorders), kill themselves, decide to kill others in mass shootings and the like. Also, just don’t be a cunt and make fun of people.
Demonization of “fat” in foods
Yeah, this is the worst. When someone asks for dieting advice, I recommend high fat and high fiber, because both will help you feel fuller on the same amount of calories.
Hyper processed foods being cheaper than whole foods
I don’t think that’s actually true. It does seem to be true for restaurants and packaged foods, but cooking is almost always cheaper than buying the equivalent product in a highly processed form. The problem is that people seem to want easy, fast solutions, and buying something is easier than cooking.
Which gets into…
Sedentary lifestyle…
This is the real killer. We seem to put way too much emphasis on sedentary activities and time saving instead of doing the things that our bodies were designed for. We drive to work to sit on a chair, and then we eat already prepared food in front of a TV or desk to play games or watch something. There’s almost no walking anymore, much less running.
Consider replacing sedentary activities with enjoyable, active ones, such as:
- cycling instead of driving to do errands - maybe work is too far, but most live within a couple miles of a grocery store, library, or some other destination
- instead of watching TV, consider listening to an audiobook while walking/jogging/working out
- consider a standing desk for work/play; at the very least, get one that’s configurable so you can alternate
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It’s a public heath crisis that’s being completely ignored.
We have an abundance of energy dense processed foods that we use inactive transport to purchase in bulk that we then overconsume and waste vast amounts while plenty of people go hungry in a daily basis.
The result is that we have health systems at breaking point (especially socialised healthcare systems outside the US) with an increasing dependence on pharmaceutical or surgical solutions to deal with the symptoms but never the root cause.
Ah, so fat shaming was the positive force for good all along
RIP r/fatpeoplehate
Their vitriol was legitimately the motivation I needed to get off my arse and lose ~90lbs and get fit.
ITT we are extremely confidently incorrect
In my area specifically only 32% of the population isn’t considered overweight or obese. It’s very depressing.
That’s all of US. Overweight or obese is nearing 70%.
I thought my area was different, but then I checked the data and we’re not too far off the median. The CDC states something like 30% of my state (Utah) is obese, which is quite surprising given how outdoorsy we are generally in this state.
I don’t know the solution here, other than not becoming obese myself. I personally am right at the border between normal and overweight, and I’m trying to drop a bit to stay on the healthier end of the spectrum. What’s odd is that most people call me “skinny” or “thin,” when I’m actually almost overweight.
It’s so bad. You can be bang on mid BMI and people will tell you you need to eat more because you are too skinny.
People have no idea what is underweight, skinny, overweight. I would go as far as most people will think low end obese is healthy.
I beat my primary fat shamer so badly I caused a TBI. Spent a week in jail and some time out of school. Upon my return, no one had a negative thing to say about me, let alone my weight. Since I was no longer stressed worrying about bullies, I started doing more activities, making friends, etc. lost a bunch of weight. No diet change.
Beat the fuck out of bullies.
That’s not something to be proud of.
No shit.
You seem proud of it.
Do you need me to be ? I’m not. I just didn’t like seeing a bully try to justify bullying as a good thing, so I told my story.
If you want to know the real truth of how I feel, it nothing. I once felt pride when it was fresh. It felt like beating a monster. Then I felt growing fear and shame when the full scope of what I had done became apparent. I spent a good chunk of time feeling regret. After a while, life moved on and I stopped feeling anything about it aside from shadows of emotion when I think about it.
Why? This happened almost 30 years ago.
Congratulations, and I appreciate the fairytale style moral of the story.
Nothing fairy tail about it. I had a record and was on years of probation because I did a lot more damage than I thought I did. It was actually a very painful part of my life that had nothing to do with my weight and everything to do with an abusive family on top of dealing with bullies. People who fat shame would find something else to shame people for if no one was overweight. They’re just little bullies who want to justify being shitty people. I took one out, but nearly became one in return.
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Let’s also just ignore all the food and economic reasons why it’s so much easier to eat better and stay skinnier in other countries and just blame the people
Idk, I grew up fat in the US and everyone around me made damn sure I never forgot it.
Fat people don’t tend to be any kinder to other fat people, in my experience.
We could be living in utopia, but those damn youths had to go and break stuff
Nobody ever gave me something to break, that’s my problem.
I don’t blame them for breaking stuff. They just had one of those days.
Dude, everything was fucked. Everybody sucked. 😝
da yutes?
You can’t blame the youths, all of their actions were completed only to increase Their chances of procreating.
i could tell it was more from Early to Risa as soon as i opened it
this dude has been flooding rightlean garbage memes from some half asleep Canadian server
If all they ever do is steal random 4chan posts, you’re probably not going to see much else
I thought I was the only one that noticed this. Dude is clearly posting based on a theme here.
This is a well-established and active server, and I don’t have any political agenda. If I did, my personal politics are very left, so that wouldn’t be where I’d start.
Chill and enjoy the greentexts or filter the community if you’re not enjoying them.
there you are
do you think we can’t smell you?
you reek
what I’m hearing, here, is that society peaked at the end of the 1990s.
At a Limp Bizkit concert, possibly
Isn’t that a major plot point of Matrix?
Minor.
Just that that was the time was where society peaked.
… the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is, of course, what this is all about.
I would say the big turning point would be around 2001.
Feel like there’s a reason for that, almost like I’m forgetting something…
But they told us we could never forget
Two big turning points
So y2k actually was a problem. It wasn’t the date crisis, but it does seem to be digital (i.e. SM seems to normalize larger body sizes).
People weren’t happy in the 90s they were angry and the music reflected that
now they’re nostalgic about unhappiness 😂😡
Rebellious, anti-materialist, anti-machine
But I wouldn’t say we were unhappy on a personal level
Exactly. I’m quite happy, and I also like rebellious, anti-machine music. I still listen to Rage Against the Machine, and I’m in a pretty stable life situation, not a minority, etc. I just really don’t like people who abuse authority, and I don’t see that changing regardless of how happy I am.
Well I got up feeling soo down…
We got down with the sickness.
