• Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    517 months ago

    I guess the people saying he’s got that regular midwestern guy vibe were right. This is the same level of unhinged that I’ve heard from people in the Midwest.

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      the other main option was supposed to be more zionist btw lol, wtf was he gonna do suggest that they design an anti-arab bioweapon and unleash it on the resistance? it literally doesnt get more zionist than what this fuck is saying

  • radio_free_asgarthr [he/him, comrade/them]
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    All the CHUDs are saying that Walz is bad because of the German’s preference for socialism and Marxism makes them unable to assimilate with other white people. But the German’s only have a predilection for National Socialism, not real socialism. Which is the real reason why Walz is bad.

  • @[email protected]
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    157 months ago

    what did he say? it confuses me a bit that no media (?) seems to talk abt isreal might be 100% is ready to do first strikes. they are failing much faster than i thought possible, and im not super sure if thats a good thing. thoughts?

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    337 months ago

    Modern day Sparta, man.

    Right down to itching for a good war with the next best thing to Persia like le funny 300 movie!

    • @[email protected]
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      207 months ago

      With every day that passes I am more convinced that these people know that they’re bullshitting when they say that, it’s just that they either don’t care or actively support Israel’s genocide and escalation and they just pretend not to to appear better than they know they are.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Really trying to close that 1% gap between 99% and 100% Hitler. Seriously holy fucking shit this is unhinged. Overt support for a Greater Israel project is new. And what the fuck are “Israeli proxies”?

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      217 months ago

      Both candidates are 100% Hitler but one of them is polite joyful Hitler, the other is rude angry Hitler.

    • vovchik_ilich [he/him]
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      607 months ago

      I’m certain that American politics are in the 100% Wehrmacht when I heard the supposedly progressive candidate Harris talk about having “the most LETHAL army in the world”, and the public starting to chant “USA, USA, USA”. That shit was absolutely nightmarish and reminiscent to me of fascist times in my homeland Spain.

      • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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        177 months ago

        That video honestly killed my drive regarding socialism for all in Amerika; no, I do not care about what happens to the crackers anymore. I’m outside and organizing for my folk alone after that.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          117 months ago

          Honestly don’t blame you. Not saying there are none of us that are deadly serious and committed to decolonialism, but they are a vanishingly small minority and some shit I hear people that totally think they are “progressive” or whatever admit to my face makes me not trust white people anymore either.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          257 months ago

          Since that speech I’ve been of the opinion “Trump, by being an incompetent moron, is the harm reduction candidate, and Kamala Harris is one of the most dangerous psychopaths I’ve ever seen and must be prevented from becoming president”

      • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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        247 months ago

        I can’t believe she keeps trotting the “lethal military” thing out as an applause line and no one has stopped and asked “Wait, want to elaborate on what you mean by that?”

        We’re just in all mask off all the time mode and that is terrifying.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      307 months ago

      maybe-later-kiddo: “Don’t you get it, tankie? We have to be more and more Hitleresque or we will AlIeNaTe ThE wOrKiNg ClAsS!”

      • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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        Deadass fuck the working class if they’re behind this. I absolutely will purity test a white worker at this point; you can’t kick it with me if you voted for this, if you cudgeled others to vote for this. Genocide is a non-fucking-starter; you cannot come with me if you got behind this. The blood on your hands will stay your feet.

    • goferking (he/him)
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      217 months ago

      I was told it’s bad to have proxies. Or they just wrong when wrong countries use them?

    • iridaniotter [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      Honestly? He seemed pretty nervous throughout the debate and made gaffes like saying he met school shooters. The “Iranian proxies” wire probably just got crossed with the “support Israel no matter what” wire and resulted in this ridiculous sentence.

      • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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        357 months ago

        Hard to stay calibrated on exactly 99% Hitler, easy to drift a few points up or down accidentally.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        217 months ago

        Yeah his whole answer seemed like a jumbling of two different pre-prepared lines that were probably supposed to be the standard American imperial shit but instead came out as genocidal word salad

  • @[email protected]
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    117 months ago

    I really don’t want to be defending this guy, but reading what he said is kinda confusing.

    “Iran, or, Israel’s ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental, getting its hostages back, fundamental, and ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.”

    Emphasis mine. His “but” seems to be in contradiction to all his direct “fundamental, period. Fundamental, period.” I hate the short time these stupid debates give people because he really needs to fucking explain what “steady leadership” is supposed to mean there. Are we going to try to stop Isreals attempts to expand? I didn’t really read that as directly connected to his positive affirmation of what he said was fundamental before it.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      227 months ago

      I think he jumbled two different pre-prepared lines and accidentally turned a standard American lightly-fashy answer about supporting Israel and opposing Iran into an insane genocidal word salad.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      427 months ago

      He’s a mumble mouth, but his intention and word choice is absolutely clear, support for Israeli fascism will continue no matter what

      The But is a signal that the obscene platitudes are said and done, and the true policy is about to be laid out…and “the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there” is the true policy of the United States and the fascists of the Democratic Party, everything before it was nonsense

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        Lol

        You’re a genocide supporter. A nazi. Your hands will never be clean, and the people of the world will never accept you as one of their own. You will live a life of desperate disconnection from humanity as your empire gets more wretched and feeble. You will spend your days justifying your moral cowardice to yourself before dying with the stink of fascism on your name and soul. You and the other proudly stupid crackers are already damned, and it’s been a trip to watch you decay into being this way in real time.

        Honestly, seeing you flail and desperately cling on to genocider propaganda about how akshually it’s the anti-genociders that are bad, seeing how smug you are in your know-nothingness, makes me feel less bad about the meaningless death you’re probably going to experience in the Strait of Hormuz pretty soon if you’re of conscription age, which it sounds like you are.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        157 months ago

        and only the “expansion of israel and its’ proxies is fundamental to the US” part remains.

        It’s almost like that’s what he said and is objectively the policy of the Biden/Kamala admin, oh wait we were supposed to take the mangled platitudes at face value and pretend he and the admin he represents doesn’t support genocide, so genocide loving liberals like you can feel better about yourselves?

        Nah we aren’t gonna do that, keep coping genocide lover

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        267 months ago

        Your a liberal who apparently thinks they don’t already live in a class dictatorship. I’m not sure you have the right to be smug. You’ve got some studying to do.

      • Rojo27 [he/him]
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        207 months ago

        Doesn’t change the fact that Walz is still giving full throated support to genocide.

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            You really believe that’s what he meant? You really think that the Biden/Harris administration is trying to broker peace?

            They’ve been supplying the weapons that Israel is using to commit war crimes with and continually defend Israel’s actions by saying that it has a right to defend itself.

            If you really believe that then you’re a lost cause.

            Oh and I’m not the one cheerleading genocide, but sure, our views here align with Fox News.

              • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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                67 months ago

                I can’t see what you wrote before the mods took you out but I don’t care, we’ve heard all your bullshit before and we’re as sick of it as we are of you

                I have no interest in debate or changing your mind, I genuinely wish you would get cancer or slowly burn to death

          • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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            187 months ago

            Funny seeing how “communists” have their views align so perfectly with Fox Fucking News lately.

            Fox News also wants death to Israel?

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            147 months ago

            “with the expansion of israel and its’ proxies, it’s fundamental to the US to have steady leadership in that area”. Could’ve literally meant that he wants the US to broker peace in the region

            lmao holy shit the delusion, there is no reading of what he said that could be construed as “support for peace”, the fuckin word expansion gives away the game you dumb fuck, is your reading comprehension so blinkered that you think “expansion of israel and its’ proxies” is an anti-Fox News take?

            Get a grip genocide lover

          • hypercracker [he/him]
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            197 months ago

            Fox News loves Israel you dullard. Expand your political vocab a bit. The expansion of israel is what the most frothing settlers want and the reason they are invading Lebanon & Palestine.

              • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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                157 months ago

                Democrats are calling for the complete genocide of palestinians and lebanese and fox talking points is that trump would be do more effective genocide (positive to them)

                Both your political parties want mass genocide but SS members like you like to deny the observable reality. You would have voted for hitler and nothing you say can change that

  • SadArtemis [she/her]
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    427 months ago

    Nice to see some (unintentional) honesty, tbh. Yup, AmeriKKKa and the collective west never moved past their genocidal Manifest Destiny/liebensraum ideology.

    May AmeriKKKa burn to the ground. Literally would rather humanity go extinct than the progenitors of the Nazis, the champions of genocide, slavery, and destitution win.

  • Southern Boy
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    587 months ago

    Why exactly were people rehabilitating this man? Do they remember they gained nothing from electoral antics in the last general? It must be cynical political entertainment for money and attention. Here at Sᴏᴜᴛʜᴇʀɴ Bᴏʏ™ much higher standards are upheld.

    • @[email protected]
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      487 months ago

      I think it was driven by the KHive because they knew that the initial momentum from switching to Kamala was crashing against the seawall of Kamala’s policies being exactly the same as the man she replaced. Walz being rehabilitated was a meme and it didn’t even last very long - by the time Kamala made her blood and soil DNC speech the jig was up, and we’re pretty much right back to where we started.

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        the “KHive” thing was always a weird self-tell to me (alluding, I assume, to the insect-like hivemind attitude of her followers, where all individual thinking is quelled and all ends uncritically serve their Queen), but it occurred to me only yesterday — did they literally just switch it to KHive because it was originally BHive (like Beehive) for Biden? But then Biden got palace coup’d after the Democrats’ billionaire neo-colonial death-merchant financiers pulled their funding over his brain dripping from his ears and nose on live TV, so they needed to change it but just switched the first letter because the didn’t have the imagination to come up with a new name? Because agony-soviet

        • @[email protected]
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          217 months ago

          I’m pretty sure “KHive” dates back to the 2020 primaries, so it’s not a Biden thing.

        • jaywalker [they/them, any]
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          297 months ago

          The hive thing was originally popularized by “bey-hive” for Beyonce I believe. Then some Kamala supporters used “k-hive” and then they did “b-hive” for Biden. Really it wasn’t even Beyonce fans that did it first, they just did it the loudest

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            127 months ago

            “Bey-hive” only cropped up as a fan demonym in response to Nicki Minaj’s “Barbz”; who are still the most unhinged mfs on the internet. Even I’ve got nothing when I’m up against a Barb.

          • anarcho_blinkenist [none/use name]
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            157 months ago

            I don’t understand why people would want to give themselves a name that alludes to being part of to a borg-like hivemind of insects that live solely to serve their ‘royalbred’ betters; but then again I’ve never been one to identify with ‘fandoms’ in general. And a lot of Europeans did it until gui and some people still do it :god-save-the-queen: anglo-burn so what do I know.

            These are also the same people who get mad about “collectivism” when you talk about marx hammer-sickle

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    I was honestly wavering a little bit about just choking it down and voting for them just to deny the far right the smallest hint of victory, but this debate absolutely resolidified my resolve to vote “none of these candidates” (no PSL or even Greens on my state’s ballot). The whole thing was just horrifyingly ghoulish–both of them were competing to show that they would be the best and most efficient at doing fascism. I could feel my radicalism meter hitting even greater heights. Fuck right off. Death to America.