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“Fidelity is currently valuing X at about $9.4 billion”
I found this funny.
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Honestly terrifying that they still think it is worth that much.
If someone were to buy it, ban the Nazis and get advertisers to come back it’s still salvageable, I guess. The longer Musk owns it, the bigger the chance is that it’ll become the next MySpace.
At least the MySpace guy was able to run a fun site, cash out before social media became crazy, and spend the rest of his life having fun with that money.
Trump will lose, and Musk will be holding on to a useless site that serves nothing. He’ll probably sell for a fraction of what he paid (not that it was his money in the first place), but by that point it’ll be too late. Twitter will be long dead.
I doubt the saudis will be very happy if Musk doesn’t repay them their investment. I’m surprised they haven’t threatened him into stepping down and handing their investment to someone who can properly manage a social media platform already
That’ll probably be what happens if Trump loses. Musk didn’t spend “his” money so it’s no loss, and many from the Middle East have wanted control of Twitter ever since the Arab Spring.
I think MySpace is a more likely scenario that the former already.
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I was going to say that they could have stopped the headline at “quarter” as far as I’m concerned.
This is the stock market, the value is set by what investors think the value could be. Mostly, they’re probably assuming people would come back if he sold it. Literally everyone knows the name Twitter.
I understand the basics. I still find it difficult to grasp why it is worth 9 billion.
This actually isn’t the stock market, Twitter isn’t publicly traded since being bought.
Just because it’s not publicly traded, doesn’t mean that there isn’t stock nor that there’s no market. Usually, you can technically still buy/sell the stock, just not as a random member of the public on a public stock exchange like the NYSE or FTSE.
There’s usually defined periods for sales as well. Gives employees and other stock holders a way to cash out and get new investors in.
I wouldn’t be surprised if part of this remaining value is because the Japanese internet still heavily relies on it as a platform, even if the west has begun moving elsewhere.
they still own the twitter trademark, that might be their biggest asset
Which has been crashed and burned to a fraction of its value.
Since they don’t seem to care about it, start using “tweet” for every social media post to devalue them further.
Tweets are a specific type of a microblog post you do on twitters. Have you tried tweeting, make your own twitter at https://joinmastodon.org/ today!
keep sliding
How to become a billionaire: Start with 54 billion
I doubt anybody would buy it for a tenth, tbh.
I’m confident you could unload the property for $4B easily enough. That’s somewhere in the neighborhood of $10-100/unique user amortized out over the life of the loan, which would be a steal via any other advertising medium.
Twitter still has real value. Hundreds of millions of people still use it, even in its deplorable state. And under new management, I’m confident people would flood back in.
You would have to prove that the hundreds of millions who use it are “people”.
Empty Internet Theory is a clever joke, but it doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.
FaceBook deleted 6.5 BILLION BOTS IN 2021.
Neither Facebook nor Twitter claimed 6.5B unique users.
Well then FB lied about it at this link HERE
They can delete 6.5 billion accounts without claiming they are active users.
Wow. That is brutal.
If they influence the election to their desired outcome, then the value won’t matter. The damage will have been done.
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Yes, he gets a raging fascist boner every time someone fails to assassinate Trump because he thinks it’s the cue to go full Nazi but really he just keeps jumping the gun and making it far too obvious deeply part of Trump’s ongoing fascist takeover schemes and really not the guy we should have any significant government contracts with
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Uhm… Yes. Like a lot.
Yes, trump has also offered him a spot on his cabinet
Musk is and always has been an incompetent yet lucky scammer.
Twitter will be bankrupt within two years.
!Remindme 2 Years
Ho wait it’s not working here
If I remember correctly the evaluation of Xitter has been around $9 Billion for years so they’re basically saying it tanked only a little if you adjust for inflation.
The value of Twitter when he bought it was $44 billion. We know this because his dumb ass bought it for $44 billion.
Regardless of what a sane person would pay for it, that was the value to him and so if the next highest valuation is $9b he lost $35b of value by overpaying.
You do raise a good point though. Twitter used to be valued at $9b when its value was speculative and the company was growing, now that we know it’s shit and getting worse it’s almost certainly worth less than that too.
I guess my point is that it isn’t worth an article in mid 2024 because it really only repeats what has been said a million times a about the subject. Even before it was bought. No one else would’ve paid much more than $9 Billion at any point because it is legitimately insane.
May it sink even lower
same as my GameStop shares
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If that $22B prevents another Arab Spring it’s probably worth it to him.
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Brutal murderer Mohammed bin Salman
They should tweet that
But then , they’ll get banned 😛
Isn’t Musk all for free speech ?
Absolutely! He simply has a very original take on “freedom”, but we all know that’s a tricky word to pin down, so don’t think about it too much, and leave it to the big dogs to tell you when your freedom is being protected.
“Free speech for me, but not for thee” lol
If he succeeds in using it as a propaganda platform to force the US into a fascist dictatorship, he will have gotten his money’s worth.
Elon is a genius at losing money.
Like his buddy Trump!
that’s why he is the richest person in the world with 270B net worth.
look, i hate the asshole as much as the other guy, but changing meaning of words and underestimating the enemy never helped anyone.
it’s just that he could take big risks (not even a smart one) in investment because he didn’t care about the money, he has so much that he can never lose it all, so of course if you can invest blindly you’ll for sure win at some point
it’s just that he could take big risks
yes, that is definitely part of his success. and since this strategy got him to position of richest person in the world, it is pretty clear that “genius at losing money” is not really accurate description of situation.
as for twitter, he clearly is not in it for the money, otherwise he wouldn’t be there to begin with. he originally hoped to buy position of cheered and admired hero and when he failed, he settled for a position of hated douchebag. infamous still means people know you, i guess 🤷♂️
It would appear that he didn’t want to buy Twitter and was literally forced to do so. I think for him Twitter is a temper tantrum. He didn’t get what he wanted so he’s destroying everything around him as a result.
More to the point though, I do wonder why he didn’t just pay the billion dollars to get out of the deal (with his 270 billion net worth - which by the way includes assets not necessarily liquid cash).
I don’t know that he’s not in it for the money. I think the point is to destroy it so he doesn’t have to pay back what he borrowed to buy it.
More to the point though, I do wonder why he didn’t just pay the billion dollars to get out of the deal
I don’t know that he’s not in it for the money.
your first sentence explains he is not in it for money, if money were the concern, eating the 1b fine would be logical thing to do (i am not fact checking that 1b piece of information, i trust you on this).
with his 270 billion net worth - which by the way includes assets not necessarily liquid cash
that’s how it works, no one has 270 billion in cash
I think the point is to destroy it so he doesn’t have to pay back what he borrowed to buy it.
that doesn’t make sense, destroying twitter doesn’t absolve him of obligation to return money he borrowed.
This is just conjecture though. I do think he originally did not intend to buy Twitter. I do think he was essentially forced to buy it. I know from news articles around the time of the sale that he gave significant pushback when relevant parties forced the issue. Things may very well have changed after he became the owner (and what deals he made to be able to afford it may never be known).
I do think he was essentially forced to buy it.
he was, but it doesn’t contradict what i said. if he had a way to back out of his stupid bragging offer for 1b, and all he cared about was money, the reasonable thing would be to pay the fine, instead of paying 44 billion for something that doesn’t generate profit.
Still worth billions though.
“Y’all my current portfolio is worth 9 BILLION dollars!” “Ah sick, seems to be going pretty well for you.” “Yeah, I’m down 75%”
“Still worth billions tho” is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard on this platform and that’s saying a lot.
I’d cheer on if Elon Musk becomes a pauper. $9 billion is still worth a lot. It’s still, as the article says, billions.
look even 1 billion is more than enough to live on for a lifetime and then quite a bit left over, so that is not really that dumb
While you are correct, that’s not the point of this article. It’s about how X lost value. Elon isn’t homeless, so yeah it’s still worth a lot of money.
