When you visit the Google’s chatbot bard’s website in Microsoft Bing. A New Button pops up besides the search bar which lets you compare bard results with Bing chat’s. I have no idea why they implemented this, well maybe to show off the their chatbot is better than bard or something?
Microsoft now has implemented “compare with Bing chat” button when you visit Google Bard in Edge
That title has so many brand names I feel like I’m reading infinite jest
FTFY
Microsoft now has implemented “compare with Microsoft Bing Chat™, an AI search engine powered by OpenAI GPT-4™” button when you visit Alphabet’s Google Bard™ in Microsoft Edge™©®
As if there is any comparison, bing is miles better, especially in gpy-4 mode.
Bing AI is like a whiny child. Worse than useless. I often can’t even get a single answer to one innocuous question before it goes into wilting flower mode and doesn’t want to talk anymore.
Bing has got to the be the worst AI chat there is so I have a feeling this is going to backfire. It’s so over-sensitive as to be completely useless. It’s like what would happen if you let your average redditor write the results.
Prompt: Tell me Keanu Reeves 3 worst movies.
Bing/average redditor: I don’t like the term worst because it divides things into good and bad and all things are special in some way. I think all Keanu Reeves movies were great. I no longer wish to continue this conversation. How about we switch to a new topic?
…also Microsoft has been doing BS like this for a while. Search for chrome on Bing and the top result is a banner That says something like “Why search for chrome? There’s no need to switch.”
…out of curiosity, ran your query through Bing bot. It went to rotten tomatoes and citied 5 movies lol. Exposed, The Watcher, The Lake House, Sweet November and Chain Reaction.
Dude, it was not literal. I’m not"exposed." grow up.
Like most AIs, it used to be good until they handicapped it for having the possibility of saying controversial things.
The AI hype is getting to be even worse than the NFT hype
Is it me, or is that pretty anti consumer?
Being offered a second option and not having a monopoly is as consumer friendly as it gets, may I suggest a dictionary?
Except they are using the power they have with people using their browser to divert people away from the alternative to their product.
Using your own product to advertise others? How dare they. Are you also angry theyre using windows to advertise onedrive? Lmao
No more anti-consumer than Google saying that “the internet is best experienced in chrome” every time you open YouTube or Google search.
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Well, they also mangle/limit the Google Search on Firefox for Android. If you change your useragent to Chrome, it will show just fine, so it’s not issue with Firefox, it’s deliberate.
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Just gives you a limited interface. The menu on left side is completely gone, voice search is missing, Google Lens is missing, you can’t search by tags.
This add-on fixes it by changing useragent to Chrome when browsing Google: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-search-fixer/ which makes Firefox contribute to Chrome marketshare.
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Weird to think now that Google used to have Customized Firefox search page.
DDG has better results anyway
Doesn’t DDG just use Bing?
No, they operate their own crawlers.
Per https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/:
We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing. Our focus is synthesizing all these sources to create a superior search experience.
Google’s results these days are shit. The other day I googled an exact terraform resource and included “terraform” in my search query. The first result should’ve been the page for that resource in terraform’s documentation, but that page wasn’t in the results at all. What was there was a blogspam copy of said page.
Google has stop paying attention to it’s own search commands. I can +search term in my search and it will still bring up the same results it brought up in the previous search that made me include the + in the first place, even when I know results with that term exist.
Also if it decides you’ve typo’d, it often no longer gives you the option to search for the exact thing you typed. It used to say “did you mean __________?” and you could click a link to search for the exact word it thins you mistyped. It now often doesn’t give you that option anymore.
Yeah, I forget about that until I get a new phone and have to reinstall that extension…
Don’t you think it’s different if Google says this on their own sites vs Microsoft showing this when visiting their competitors?
Both isn‘t good. But I feel like one of those is clearly worse.
Everything from Microsoft or Google is anti everyone.
at that point i consider it a microsoft tradition to do the “hey, i see you’re using Y, we have a similar product called Z and it’s better, do you want to try it?”-routine no one asked for.
“No one asked for this” should be Microsoft’s tag line. Rather than fix problems that have been around for years - decades in some cases - they just keep adding crap that no one wants or asked for.
It’s also shameless and pathetic.
Microsoft needs another good antitrust lawsuit. They’re so aggressive about pushing their products.
I haven’t heard many other people complain about it so it was probably a very short term thing, but I’ll never forget when they updated windows defender to identify the chrome installer as highest-threat malware so that its download would be blocked, and if you forced the download windows would instantly delete the installer for your own protection.
So does Google imo.
Honestly the way Microsoft handles things rubs me worse than Google. It’s specifically the way that Microsoft watches what you do, and then tries to stop and convince you to use their stuff instead. And they don’t respect you saying no once, instead trying to stop you at every step in the process.
Google does the same.
I don’t use Chrome. Every single time I go to any Google service, it tells me I need to be using Chrome. It doesn’t take “no” for an answer; it’s a constant nag.
Google Docs especially gets mad and doesn’t even let you paste without formatting.
Alphabet, Microsoft, Meta. Pretty much all the big tech companies really need a visit from the FTC.
Honestly the FTC should be handing out antitrust suits like candy. Late stage capitalism has created a bit of a target rich environment, if only the FTC could take advantage.
Courts have been blocking them consistently. They’ve been a touch more aggressive, but Congress needs to pass more aggressive laws. Many of these companies are vertically integrated, not horizontally - and the laws aren’t really equipped to deal with that.
How is Meta acting anti competitive? I am not defending them, just actually curious. For Microsoft, Alphabet and Apple it makes sense because they control the platforms.
Why not Apple, the closest company to having a monopoly on software running on smart phones in the USA.
Apple and Google have both done similar things. Osx will ask you to use safari if you install a different browser. Google shows “it’s better in chrome!” on basically all of their properties if you’re using non chromium based browsers. No one seems to really give a shit.
You have no idea why? Really? It’s to get people thinking about / trying bing.
It’s all advertising.
We’re going to enter another search engine (read chatbot) war.
Just wait until Google manages to bust out the internet DRM they’ve proposed. Then things will really get bad.
We almost need an entirely different internet at this point. Start over, we fucked up.
Gemini exists and the protocol is designed to be hard to extend deliberately, but it serves documents as a markdown-like format instead of modern html/css/js
I’d like to recommend this video by a retired Microsoft OS engineer about how LLMs like ChatGPT and Bard work. It has lots of technical mumbo jumbo, but Dave tries to explain it in simpler terms.
“…but as the company grew and became more…”
Evil
Consider it payback for when Google kept shilling chrome everywhere back then
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That’s how I saw it.
When I did web dev, I was losing it when I saw my fellow devs adding things like “This site works better on Chrome” and giving Chrome free marketing.
Eh, I’d rather promote Firefox any day over Chromium-based browsers
“This site designed for Netscape Navigator”
Bundled with every installer in existence with the checkbox checked-on by default.
Hasn’t this been there for months? I remember seeing this a while ago.
Classic Microsoft. Playing dirty because why not?
Ngl though I do really like this.
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I like this way better than Microsoft just showing popups trying you to stick to their browser.
Not really one to defend Google, but Microsoft is out of line on this (and a lot of other stuff they do). Sadly our Congresspeople are pretty much owned by these corps and won’t do anything about it.
Microsoft has been acting for a monopoly for ages now. But Google was a newcomer, more transparent, and even tried to have a morally positive corporate motto for a time, given competitor propagandists the perfect opportunity to present it as the monopoly it was not. Google has always held itself too back, made their technology too open sourced, and allowed third party growth over their own to be an effective monopoly, and now the Google search engine is rapidly dropping in its effectiveness with the advent of closed off, cult-on-demand social networks, and they will still be damned because they performed targeted advertising first, yet in contrast to Facebook in a way where their user’s data and personal identity has remained relatively safeguarded. Their biggest problem is being unable to operate within their environment or even outside it, as they clearly unwilling to move away from personalized ads because they have shit all revenue streams except for serving ads, even though it is such a necessity that it became one of the cornerstones of duckduckgo.
Google left their “do no harm” motto in the dust long ago and is one of the largest internet monopolies of all time. Both companies suck in that regard.
But yeah, google search is getting worse and worse every day.
You mean like when you visit a Google service (Gmail, Google, Maps …) on a non Chrome browser it bugs incessantly to switch?
It’s pervasive and it stinks, but it’s not Microsoft. It’s our current capitalist gestalt.
Either I’ve just gotten blind for these messages, or it has never happened to me. I’m using Firefox and have been using it for years, but so far I haven’t really noticed these messages at all on Google services.
You did not imagine that. I remember back when Google was being obnoxious about that. They cut it out years ago though, possibly after some bad pr over it.
Never had this happen on Firefox yet.
Does Firefox even have any other service beside their broswer which they could use for such a promotion?
Yes, Mozilla also has Hubs, vpn, Pocket and more
Pocket is one where I wish Firefox Mobile had integration instead of needing a separate app.
I just tried doing this in Edge. No pop-up showed up. Can you show a screenshot of this “incessant” behavior?
I’ve been using Firefox for years to access Google services, and have never ever had a single issue. I hope it stays this way, with all this Web Environment Integrity shenanigans they are pushing for at the moment.
I’ve never had this happen to me, and I’ve been on firefox for over 8 years at this point
It happens on Edge but not Firefox I believe. My work laptop defaults to Edge (and we use all Microsoft Web services so I haven’t cared to switch the default) and Google services prompt to try Chrome there.
Edit: I just checked and it doesn’t seem to be there. Either I imagined it or they removed it.
