It goes on until it doesn’t? Seems like there’s a pseudo-scientific philosophical argument that it continues on forever at some quantum level?
There’s a physics argument that information can’t be destroyed, so in terms of causality it has an effect (see butterfly effect for reference) but because of various physical thresholds like the planck length, general limits on measurement precision (uncertainty principle, resolution limits, detection limits), chaos theory, etc, at one point it becomes indistinguishable noise.
I imagine a physicist would invoke entropy to describe the diffusion of pressure waves and vibration into other forms of energy. Neuroscience might explain the propagation of signals from the cochlea into the brain. A psychologist could hypothesise on the influence of music on our mood and ideas. A philosopher might talk about the influence of music on the way we build our society and how that feeds back into our music. In this way, the music never stops, it continues on as echos rippling through through the universe.
That gave me some real Alan Watts vibes. If this came from your own brain, be proud of this comment. Beautifully worded and inspiring.
Thank you and funny you should say that because Watts is an inspiration. From a scientific point of view some of his ideas were a little tenuous but as a teacher on the subject of the ineffable he was quite peerless.
We didn’t start the music, it was always playing since the world was turning
Beautiful. We are just one of many instruments that express the music.
I think this is my favorite comment I’ve read on Lemmy so far.
Let’s assume the kid knows it’s a recording. It’s still a valid question.
Like where is the recording coming from when the kid asks Alexa to play a song?
I never thought about it, as I don’t have kids, but must be a bit harder explaining a global IT-infrastructure than it was for my grandpa to explaining how a VHS works. On a generalised level, that is.
it’s sitting on the computer waiting to play again
“how is it now playing here in the car if it’s on the computer at home…?”
edit also “a computer at home” feels fairly outdated, when even very young kids have smartphones
The kid made a mistake asking where music came from. Now me must learn about TCP/IP, NTP and DNS 💀💀💀💀
The kid is gonna need naptime and to clear the next 3 years of his schedule. This is gonna get complicated…
Wowh woah you gotta start with the basics!
…OSI model.
I’m not a scientist by a long shot, but my understanding is that sound if indeed a wave, carried by a medium (air, water, etc). Upon hitting your eardrum, this wave is converted by your eardrum and your auditory nerve into signals your brain decodes. The remainder of the wave continues though, until it runs out of medium, hits an obstacle (basically another medium) or dissipates. Again, just my layman’s understanding!
A little bit reflexts off your eardrumm too!
Don’t forget the inverse square law. Even without a change in medium or any obstacles, the strength of the signal decrease over distance until it is undetectable.
This is also why there are no extraterrestrial civilizations hearing any radio broadcasts from Earth. Our transmitters are so weak that any signals we send out fade into the CMB before they get any real distance.
If they didn’t fade with distance,
So for now we are still quiet in the dark forest.
So Lrrr and Ndnd warching Single Female Lawyer 1000 years in the future is a lie?
Unless they have an extensive network of wormhole repeateds
They’ve probably just got a spy satellite around earth that transmits back. Or maybe an extremely directional antenna / receiver dish would work, since they’re focused on Earth specifically.
They would not have been able to watch it from an original OTA broadcast, no.
If we had FTL I’d be a radio archaeologist, flying out to various distances to attempt to capture lost episodes of old TV shows like Doctor Who
You area conflating auditory waves with radio waves.
These are very much not the same thing. Sound waves require a medium while radio waves do not.
Radio waves travel vast distances through space while sound doesn’t travel at all.
Space is a medium, as exemplified by the fact that light curves around massive objects, because the space is curved.
Space isn’t a medium because mediums have privileged frames of reference.
You’re talking about spacetime which is a field, not a medium.
So you’re saying that light can travel through not-space?
Light is also not “stuff” - it’s electromagnetic radiation. It’s by the unprivileged intertial frame of reference that we define the speed of light. Light’s speed is the speed at which it travels unimpeded through the spacetime “field”. Additionally light does not accelerate or change speed in any way while traveling in that frame.
Unless you’re asking if light travels through things that are not the field known as the spacetime continuum in which case yes: light travels (and changes speed) through all sorts of materials. Like glass.
Don’t materials also need to exist in space?
False, it gets stuck in my head, to be played over and over until the next song gets stuck in my head.
Nothing’s really ever gone
Into darkness, my old friend.
I’ve come to talk with you again.
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains
Within the sound of silence
The music stays there we keep moving
Completely real story
Kids ask weird things
The Langoliers eat it
“Where do you think it goes?”
If we can try with every day
To make it better as it goes
With any luck then I suppose
The music never endsThe best and the worst go straight to your brain and live there rent free.
Unfortunately, nobody has figured out how toget rid of the bad songs that drown out the good ones.
that happened
As someone with a degree in Philosophy, I don’t think this is really a philosophical question. The science is interesting and useful to know
To retire on a farm upstate, unless my mom lied to me 🤔