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I’ve hated Torvalds ever since I experienced Git. Now I feel vindicated
Mercurial fan?
I just remember getting impenetrable error messages. Git is so goddamn confusing
What’s his email? torvalds@osdl.org fails for me
I don’t care if it’s pointless I already wrote a rant out and I’m damn well sending it as soon as I find an address to use.
He uses torvalds@linux-foundation.org to commit to github
Cheers. Told him his rhetoric about russians all being from a troll farm is indistinguishable to IDF rhetoric that Palestinians are all Hamas, among other things I had a rant about.
My question is how much of this is needing to comply with sanctions and how much of this is Linus being a russophobic ass
Hes from finland so Im sure its at least 90% russophobia at minimum.
Which makes me think he would have pulled the trigger earlier
Moved to the US like 30 years ago so it’s a 3x russophobia multiplier
they always say ‘because of connections to Russia’ and never ‘because they were Russian’
I don’t even get it, why have a smoke show when we all know exactly what you want to say
It’ so liberals can lie to themselves easier when they do this shit.
Yikes. I recommend reading this linked article too: Several Linux Kernel Driver Maintainers Removed Due To Their Association To Russia
This includes the maintainer of the Acer Aspire 1 EC driver, Cirrus Logic CLPS711X ARM architecture, Baikal-T1 PVT hardware monitor driver, Libata PATA drivers, libata SATA AHCI Synopsys DWC controller drivers, ASCOT2E media drivers, MIPS Baikal-T1 platform driver, NTB IDT driver, PPTP driver, Renesas R-Car SATA driver, Renesas Super-H Ethernet Driver, and the UFS file-system. Just the maintainer entries are being removed and not the actual drivers themselves.
Here’s the actual patch and some ensuing discussion on the mailing list: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove some entries due to various compliance requirements. - Greg Kroah-Hartman
I am surprised they are able to do this… is there not some sort of licensing requirement of attribution? I don’t know the details of what “maintainer” status indicates. It sounds like they are being removed from the credits though. Or are they being removed from decision making power or ability to contribute going forward?
they are removed from their position of being publicly responsible for said drivers, which is separate from code attributions in the actual code files and the actual git commit log.
Ah thanks.
I wonder if they were polite enough to give the fired maintainers a private heads up before firing off the patch.
They probably wouldn’t do that for security reasons. Chance of an unhappy person doing something.
probably what’s going to finally get me to give a BSD a try. I don’t think something like this has happened before and I am not feeling so good about riding it out.
Same, just needed a push and this serves as it. Hopefully software compatibility is good.
For gaming, lolnope, your best bet is either a passthrough VM or a cloud gaming service.
For everything else, I wouldn’t call it at parity but it’s certainly good enough for a typical dev setup.
Anyone surprised? he is a fin
I’m Finnish. Did you think I’d be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it’s not just lack of real news, it’s lack of history knowledge too.
Imagine if the rest of Europe was as revanchist about each other as Finland is to Russia
They fought one short border war in the lead up to WW2, but to hear the Finns talk about it they make it seem like Russia was personally massacring every single civilian they could for fun on their way to burn down Helsinki
Imagine if France still held out a deep mistrust and hatred of the Germans for two world wars, or the Belgians for the Franco-Flemish war. One war a century ago and Finland can’t get the fuck over it
There are lots of boomers that are also very mad about Finlandisation. In their view, the big bad Soviet Union unfairly leaned on smol bean Finland to take a diplomatically neutral position during the Cold War when they just wanted America-senpai to notice them
That’s because Europeans actually love fascism, and will never forgive the USSR for saving them from it. In their eyes, the only thing Nazi Germany did wrong was do to Europe what Europe was doing to the rest of the world.
Ok maybe not all Europeans, but that ship sailed when the SPD sent the freikorps to kill Rosa and Karl.
The Finns never got over the Battle of Neva
The thorough dehumanization, conflating every single individual in other countries into a single enemy-image, is an obvious component of US preparation for a total global war. US war planners are spelling it out https://youtu.be/6vYV5kM1gyg?t=2213
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I don’t think the US is interested in a more total global war than it’s already engaged in. Conflating all others into a single dehumanized enemy just means the US can kill whomever it likes whenever it likes, and that’s not really a new concept for the country.
Imperial Germany bailing out the Finnish white army was terrible
- “If the Russian maintainers meet the compliance requirements then they’ll be back in”
- “What are the compliance requirements?”
- “My lawyers have told me not to say.”
Good job Mr. Torvalds, you are the master of being subtle. Not even RMS would do this and that’s the biggest F-you I can give Torvalds.actually what he said was “lawyers” told him not to say. Which I read as quite vague… just some lawyers. Could have been lawyers acting on anybody’s behalf, not necessarily “his”. Maybe he got some sort of demand letter from a right wing dark money law firm. There was such an organization making interventions into linux a while ago.
The funny linux man is a chud…it’s like liberal me learning the truth about Elon Musk all over again.
Known liberal Linus Torvalds engages in liberal behavior
I’m also not going to start discussing legal issues with random internet people who I seriously suspect are paid actors and/or have been riled up by them.
Everyone Who Disagrees With Me is a Russian Bot is the perfect unfalsifiable truth for these libs.
Is there a fork or alternative to linux?
The short answer is “no”.
A longer answer is that there is nothing stopping you from freezing the kernel here or the most recent LTS release and running it for eternity, but without the contributions of Valve, Red Hat, Ubuntu, and IBM, it will just be a scuffed and increasingly insecure version of linux.
There doesn’t seem to be much momentum behind schisming the kernel from here, and without dedicated devs, any fork is just a website.
There is FreeBSD whose guts are robust enough that is was used as the base for the PS4 OS. However, MIT licensing means that short of a Sony Hack or bankruptcy that code is never seeing the light of day. It’s mostly functional for everything except gaming in a typical use case.
There is FreeBSD whose guts are robust enough that is was used as the base for the PS4 OS
I second this on using FreeBSD. With some tweaks, it can be used with Steam/Proton for gaming on PC. See this video for more info: https://youtu.be/vQpI7SU921A
The video maker is using a FreeBSD variant called NomadBSD which is a live USB that has automatic hardware detection - https://nomadbsd.org/
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
HyperbolaBSD and its kernel HyperBK (derivative of the BSD kernel) are expected to be in alpha soon-ish. This is heavily principled, everything remotely proprietary straight to the trash stuff, so the end result is you’re sacrificing access to a lot of common software.
A few years back I tried Hyperbola on the linux kernel for maybe a year. Essentially all of the issues I had were with not having access to software I wanted. If I’m sticking to software in the repositories I had no real problems with it.
What basically every issue boiled down to was: Common software X has some issue in its licensing (I never understood the technicalities of any of this stuff, so please don’t ask) that maintainers of common distros are fine ignoring because they consider the the licensing issues minor and lots of things require X as a dependency. Software Y is much earlier in development, but can functionally replace most of the features we want from software X, and has no problems in its licensing. We’ll use software Y and adapt the software in our repositories around that. But even if those adaptations are generally not big changes, as you get more and more software in the repos, the effort required from maintainers adds up. Because they’re limited on time and funding, the end result is a lot of repository pruning.
I would bet someone with a little technical knowledge could get a lot of software outside of the repos working without a lot of effort, but I am not that someone. Honestly, it was a good OS, I did okay with what software they had available until texlive was removed from the repos. I type up math notes, so that was a backbreaker for me.
I will say that their firefox derivative, IceWeaselUXP, was maybe the best experience I’ve had with a web browser, but I’ve read from a few people that getting it working on other distros is too much effort.
