• moosetwin
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    236 months ago

    with my phone from 6 years ago I could use a micro SD card as internal storage

    my phone nowadays installs gambling apps I didn’t download and has rooting deliberately locked down

  • @[email protected]
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    106 months ago

    What phone you got? My busted ass OnePlus 7 still runs pretty quick, least fast enough that I never complain. Was thinking about replacing it with a Fairphone 5 when the time comes, which even feels fast enough to me despite the limited hardware in that.

  • @[email protected]
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    6 months ago

    The absolute most salient proof of the inadequacy of market capitalism is that when the mobile market consolidated, THESE are the two choices we wound up with. Talk about a giant douche and a turd sandwich…

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      26 months ago

      A third one is being worked on silently (Linux Mobile), however that will most likely only be a niche choice for those who already ain’t being caught and locked into Silicon Valleys “products”. Due to its very nature there is no VC money involved and therefore no big fanfare planed, even when finished.

      It’s still very much a dev platform right now, even though the Pinephone is freely purchasable.

  • @[email protected]
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    256 months ago

    I’m on a rooted android 8.0.1 Oreo.

    That’s right, my android still has a food related name. Step aside losers

    My Samsung J7 is old enough to go to elementary school and is as snappy and functional as the day I got it. Haven’t had a phone in more than half a decade.

    I also have a functional Samsung S5 booted with android 12, courtesy of Lineage OS

    • @[email protected]
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      26 months ago

      Damn is the S5 actually still usable with that OS? I loved that phone and still use it as an alarm clock (original batterie even).

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        Yeah! It gets a bit hot tho, so I’m using it on battery saving mode with low specs, and I cannot have it in my pants’ pocket for too long or it crashes. But it does work.

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      yeah, its mostly all the garbage they bake into the stock roms.

      remember laptops, where they were expected to need a reformat out of the box? same for phones but the process is much more complicated and locks you out of banking apps.

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        Actually, I was able to patch (lucky-patcher) my bank app to remove the module that detects root. So I haven’t had issues with that :D

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          i didnt know you could do that with lucky patcher! i will look into tge specifics later, ty!!

    • @[email protected]
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      46 months ago

      Android 8.0.0 reporting in o7

      I checked it a while ago, my phone turned seven this summer

      kinda miss system-level darkmode, since many apps don’t allow you to choose theme yourself anymore, but eh, what gives

  • @[email protected]
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    126 months ago

    Funny, though they have actually been working hard on optimization too. For a great example, see changes like userfaultfd garbage collection in 13.

    • Ephera
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      36 months ago

      I feel like the whole JVM stack is just kind of a lost cause. We’ve been throwing bigger hardware at it and optimizing it for decades, but the crappy iPhone my workplace gave me, still feels smoother in every way…

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        I believe back in Android N there was a move to compile all apps to native before running. Currently, Android relies on Android RunTime (ART) and it tries to keep everything performance critical in compiled code, but it’s not perfect. You do still have a JVM and there’s still garbage collection.

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      66 months ago

      I don’t know what are they optimizing it for, when I click on something, it still takes a year to load, the only difference I feel between my current phone and my first android is that this one has a much larger screen, and this one costs 10 times more. In my opinion, android has been going backwards since around 8.0

  • UnfortunateShort
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    06 months ago

    Your android is getting slower? Ingl, I never noticed something like this in the past ~14 years of android.

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      26 months ago

      If you’re still using your 14 year old android, then they probably hadn’t implemented the planned obsolescence feature to that phone yet. Sometimes they forget to do that with early models.

  • @[email protected]
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    166 months ago

    Of course its slower… how else are they gonna con millions of people into buying new smartphones they don’t need?

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      116 months ago

      There’s only one competitor, apple, and also, I don’t think that firefox mobile is that good. It’s better than chrome, and I’m using it, but I don’t know why would a device with 12gb of ram, a high-res display, a processor that can run warzone can’t run the normal version of firefox with a different ui. I think it just splits development, and I don’t like how it’s always behind in development, and how it lacks features.

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        Not every phone has any of that, dummy.

        Also I don’t really believe it is as easy to port as you are making it out to be.

      • @[email protected]
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        136 months ago

        Apple doesn’t have functioning adblock on safari. There are a handful of extensions that promise to and none of them work as well as ublock

  • AItoothbrush
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    66 months ago

    Every time i see an arm emulation handheld that uses android instead of linux my blood boils. The thing is, linux is scalable. Android and windows arent. If you have weaker hardware you have to put an older version of android or windows on it. Thats why you see recently released arm chips that only support up to android 8. If your hardware is too slow for linux you just use a lighter version of it. Also the features like suspend are just so good on linux handhelds.

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    The missing words are “shitty” and “fucking”, btw. I feel like we’re getting crap posts like this from bots that aren’t willing to tailor their posts for places where naughty words are allowed. Or reposts of bots’ output. Either way, I’m tired of it.

      • @[email protected]
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        Hey, we need some more positivity here IMHO. Thanks for contributing even if censored bugs some people. I thought the meme was funny and it made my yesterday better in a small way.

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        96 months ago

        you can in fact swear on the internet, and we still know what the words are

      • rockerface 🇺🇦
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        576 months ago

        If you’re not sure, you can make a meme that doesn’t use them. If you think swear words are needed to emphasize your point, blurring them afterwards literally destroys your own point

        • Séra BalázsOP
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          196 months ago

          Maybe it is, I don’t know. These distorted standards from the mainstream websites, and wierd social etiquettes have made thinking and writing my own toughts feel wierd, I’m literally censoring myself. What an interesting world we live in.

          • @[email protected]
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            66 months ago

            I think this is precisely why I have such a visceral reaction to blurring swear words and using euphemisms like ‘unalive’.

            Language naturally evolves over time but I really don’t like the idea that it’s being disproportionately influenced by social media companies and their shitty algorithms trying to please advertisers. Yuck!

  • pewpew
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    156 months ago

    It may be your phone manifacturer slowing down the OS. My phone doesn’t feel slower

        • Séra BalázsOP
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          46 months ago

          In what price-range does it worth it? The people I know who had those said that they were bad, but they all bought the extremely cheap ones

          • pewpew
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            16 months ago

            I got a Moto G84 5G for 200€ and I think is a pretty good deal. It has 256/12GB of memory and an OLED screen and even an headphone jack!

        • rockerface 🇺🇦
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          16 months ago

          Another Motorola enjoyer! Mine feels much better compared to Xiaomi’s overbloated MiUI bullshit

    • @[email protected]
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      76 months ago

      I was gonna say, this sounds familiar.

      Really though, some times it’s by design. I remember back when you could jailbreak your iPhone (effectively). Those were the days…so much cool shit you could do on an iPhone back then.

      One of the things you could do though was change your animation speed. You know, just how fast it would do those little swoops and sweeps and things like that when opening apps or transitioning or whatever. It was a little thing, but I appreciated being able to change it, a lot. I used to set it at 0 so everything was as snappy as possible. No animations, just pop pop pop. Like in Windows 7 when you turn off all animations and effects. I would experiment though sometimes with new iOS versions on other devices as well as my own when they came out. Don’t want to be left behind and be susceptible to security risks, right?

      It didn’t take me long to catch on that they would, little by little, extend the animations times slightly as they got closer to a new major version number release. I noticed that when you would upgrade, they would adjust the animation speed again with the major release, but instead of slowing it down, put it back to normal. They basically made it so that when you finally upgraded to the new (slightly buggy) major version, you felt it ran better and were happy you did so. It was all a trick, and you were being manipulated. It didn’t run better, it just seemed that way because they slowed down the previous version’s animations. Now, I know how Apple thinks and works. It’s both to make sure you’re on the latest version they can get you on as well as try to keep you thinking they are always improving things and be happy you upgraded. But, it’s just a bit disappointing to realize that they’re manipulating you in little ways like that to keep you on-board.

      Not the first time Google or phone manufacturers have taken some cues from Apple’s practices in this area. It seems like time and time again we see some people like Android users and Linux enthusiasts complaining about Apple’s practices only to be dismayed that Google or their favorite phone manufacturer starts practicing the very same thing. The fact of the matter is, Apple did ALL the research. They don’t care about all us nerds who see what’s going on. We’re the minority. The majority are happily manipulated in this way, unknowingly. Why wouldn’t they follow suit? Apple is WILDLY successful.

  • ProdigalFrog
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    116 months ago

    My old pixel 4a with graphene os is still as fluid and snappy as the day I bought it.

    • Séra BalázsOP
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      My samsung was working fine for 1-2 months, since then, it’s just lagging and things. I tried resetting, sending it back to samsung to see if it has hardware problems, but it’s still bad. Had a nokia and a huawei before that, and another samsung, I even had some off brands when I wasn’t so financially good but since 2016-17 it feels to me like development has taken a turn backwards, they stopped adding new things, started taking away privileges from the user, and they are trying to hit the same performance with much stronger hardware. Also, twitter still takes 7 seconds to load, but now you can have a 200MP camera with that