• Possibly linux
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    Oh poor baby

    Seriously though you should look at the price of that thing when it was new. Some of those coats go for hundreds of dollars. Goodwill is raising money for the people they support. They also have a lot of overhead costs do to there large size. If you want to see the numbers you can pull up there tax records. No one is forcing you to go to goodwill.

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    I hate Goodwill out here. They have the least selection of crap, and charge absurdly high prices like this. I go to another local chain of thrift stores called The Hope Chest. There’s like 4 of them around here and they rock. Usually go there for pants because I can find good quality materials and spend like $5 for 6 pairs.

        • @BossDj@lemm.ee
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          29 months ago

          But let’s also be fair, as in “I gave it to them for free out of convenience while getting rid of the stuff that I’d feel bad just throwing away”

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            I wouldn’t say donating to Goodwill is convenient. It’s more convenient to just throw it away. And reduce/reuse/recycle is a good thing. The bad thing here is Goodwill is blocking the three Rs by marking up the price. Which means they will probably just throw it away eventually because no one will buy it for that. Hopefully they will at least send it to a garment recycler later so that it’s laundered and then shredded to either r make new clothing, or stuffing for pillows or boxing bags.

            • @BossDj@lemm.ee
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              29 months ago

              That’s why I said “that I’d feel bad throwing away”.

              The stages for high end go like this: sent to “goodwill boutique” and/or listed online. Sent to cheaper local goodwill with markdown. Added to cheap-item-Sunday (for ones that still do that). Sent to bulk outlet (where people fill a bag and pay one price for entire bag or by the pound). Finally, recyclers

              So they don’t block it so much as delay I suppose. But they’ve gotten good at regionalizing their processes

        • AmidFuror
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          They’re non-profit because the profit isn’t their focus - they have a specific mission. They’re a charity because they use the money they raise for a social cause. It’s free market because they set prices based on the buying behavior of the public. When they price too high, more of the public decides not to buy or buys elsewhere.

          It can be all three.

            • AmidFuror
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              So what you wrote before was not what you meant. You meant because they deceptively market themselves, they aren’t a thrift store, charity, or non-profit.

              I don’t know enough about Goodwill to be able to judge that. I’m only saying that charities selling goods, even donated goods, at market prices to raise money for their cause is not at odds with their status or necessarily their mission.

    • @bonn2@lemm.ee
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      179 months ago

      Forgive me if I didn’t detect the sarcasm. But the color is goodwills discount system. On any given day the red tags might be discounted, or the blue. It is a way to clear out stuff more consistently.

  • @kitnaht@lemmy.world
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    159 months ago

    I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen a price that high at my local Goodwill. Coats only go up to like $16 here.

  • @scarabic@lemmy.world
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    119 months ago

    Charging as much as they can get is very consistent with their mission. It’s not their mission to provide a low-cost store where poor people can buy things. It’s to create jobs. The people working at Goodwill are what the entire thing is about. And if they make more money they can add more jobs. It’s not a goal to have low prices.

    • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      19 months ago

      No providing products to the working class was very much part of their mission. It obviously isn’t anymore.

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      Charging as much as they can get is very consistent with their mission. It’s not their mission to provide a low-cost store where poor people can buy things. It’s to create jobs. The people working at Goodwill are what the entire thing is about. And if they make more money they can add more jobs. It’s not a goal to have low prices.

      They don’t add jobs for shit. Half the staff is there on court order and the rest are underpaid as fuck. Fuck goodwill

      • @scarabic@lemmy.world
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        19 months ago

        That sounds a little harsh for what they do. So these jobs are not competitive or we could even say they are lousy. But the people getting them would otherwise be in jail or otherwise unemployable. Organizations like this are a half step toward normal life for a lot of people coming from a dark place. It’s not a place to make a career.

        It’s also based on religious kookiness which I always think is a bad foundation for any organization.

        But I’m not going to say “Fuck Goodwill.” I swear there are people on the internet who think literally everything is borderline slavery.

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          19 months ago

          There’s a thousand retail and fast food establishments out there dying for labor right now. There’s no need to use Goodwill as a halfway house. They aren’t teaching skills. They just give them a job and pay them less than minimum wage. If this was a job training program then there would be a point. But there isn’t.

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    Reselling took off in the past few years and everyone thought they could get in on it. Goodwill realized that they were leaving money on the table and started jacking up prices and opened their own online auction site for the better stuff.

    Dumdums who think they want to get into reselling keep buying junk for high prices there and then can’t handle the reselling game.

    • desktop_user [they/them]
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      79 months ago

      all companies take advantage of poor people, the poors are terrible at making long term decisions because they don’t have enough capital to afford them.

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        While true, there are levels, just like dante’s circles of hell. Not all companies entire business models are specifically designed to take advantage of people’s good nature and/or poor people’s desperation…

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    209 months ago

    Frequent thrift shopper, I’ve noticed prices going so high I wonder if they know what “thrift store” means anymore.

  • @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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    1059 months ago

    this is actually A Thing according to my dedicated thrifter wife

    They realized they can make more money by pricing what professional resellers would charge, and have starting sloughing off more high end stuff to sell online, and adjusting pricing to be inline with the rest of the 2nd hand fashion reselling market.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, everyone has a phone now, including goodwill employees. They aren’t going to put a Northface coat out for $12.99 when it goes for $129 online used.

      Our local thrift stores price according to the real world too, and generally, I bet $35 is still a deal for this coat. Its just not the $3.50 that people want to see.

      • @LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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        29 months ago

        If you go rural enough and you find the mom and pop Christian own thrift stores you can still get those kind of deals.

        Just recently I went to such a place and I got five stainless steel large (4qt) spice jars and a bunch of silverware for like $7 total.same things woulda been like $15 each at goodwill

        • @Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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          29 months ago

          The nice thing about these thrift stores is they’re actual charities and if you are in a hard place they’ll often help you get the stuff you need for free rather than charging the $0.25 an item they might otherwise

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          9 months ago

          More like its $35 that Goodwill can use to help an actual working mom of 3 when re-sellers pay to get a coat they can sell online for $130.

          Retail charities view their store as the source of funds for the charity, not as the charity itself. They also know people are reselling high end items, so they can mark them higher to make more money for the charity.

          • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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            49 months ago

            Then they aren’t a thrift store and should stop deceptively marketing themselves as one. Furthermore their “programs” are shit. If they just paid their employees then they could afford the online courses without the administrative overhead.

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              19 months ago

              That’s how all charity thrift stores work. That’s how they have always worked. The retail sales power the charity. Goodwill, habitat for humanity, salvation army, on and on. I have some local ones that pay for animal shelters.

              They all sell donated items to make money for the charity.

              • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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                29 months ago

                And yet Habitat for Humanity manages to build houses while it’s stores are actually thrift stores.

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                  Habitat for humanity uses the exact same model as goodwill for its retail charity stores.

                  Retail Revenue

                  Most Habitat for Humanity affiliates around the country have a ReStore, which is a resale store that receives donations of various types of home goods from people in their community and sells them for a profit. This profit goes directly toward Habitat’s mission and supports the organization’s efforts to build and repair homes.

                  You can disagree with Goodwill as a charity, but both are still thrift stores.

      • @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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        129 months ago

        I found dollarama products listed for $5+ at the local goodwill. Let’s not just make the blanket assumption that exploited goodwill workers are professional appraisers and that the customer is the problem.

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          Well, they deal with literally any object any store has ever sold in the history of time or space, likely for minimum wage. So yeah, I expect they don’t get them all right. Having to accurately price 1930’s glokenspiels and 2017 high fashion would be challenging for anyone, anywhere.

          Still, it makes sense that they have some processes in place to get it right some of the time, and maybe even most of the time.

          • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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            29 months ago

            It’s actually subminimum. Goodwill gets to decide what they pay their workers thanks to a carve out in the Fair Wage act. They’ve been caught paying as little as 22 cents.

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              Thats pretty fucked up. According to this article in 2013, there were 69 goodwill franchises that used it.

              It does look like they are moving away from using it:

              As of September 1, 2024, only 10 of the 149 local Goodwills in the United States are reported on DOL’s list. Many of those organizations are in the process of transitioning away from using the certificate. GII does not hold a certificate, and we support local Goodwill leaders as they collaborate with people with disabilities, local employers and other service providers to create an array of community-based employment and other opportunities.

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                  19 months ago

                  Yeah, looks like we don’t agree in most of the thread, but I’m 100% fucking with you there.

          • @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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            139 months ago

            This is a store where people GIVE away their stuff, out of the goodness of their hearts with the premise that it will be sold at a low price so that someone less fortunate can benefit. If goodwill has decided to sell the merchandise it gets for FREE at “fair market value” to the highest bidder in order to maximise profit then what’s the point of goodwill? Might as well use a consignment store and get a cut.

            The exchange in “Goodwill” is that you’re donating in goodwill so your things can help others. That’s what goodwill MEANS.

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              Okay, you misunderstand how retail charity works. These charities sell donated goods to generate revenue to fund their charity effort.

              The “charity” isn’t the cheap goods inside the store. It’s using the profit they generate to run or give to that charity. This can be running food banks, animal shelters, jobs programs, etc. The more money they make, the more they can give to their causes.

              Their social good works in 3 ways: provide that charity effort, provide inexpensive or less expensive goods to people, and act as free recycling centers for the environment. Most of what these stores receive is literal trash, flat out. They process this to the actual dump at no charge while sorting out any useful items.

              You can disagree with this model, but it is the model. If you have real issues with it, then sure, sell the goods and keep the money or donate directly to a charity of your choice.

              • @Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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                29 months ago

                Sounds like you’re the one misunderstanding goodwill. Goodwill doesn’t donate to ANY causes. Their ONLY contribution is employing disabled people and providing jobs/training. You can read it on their own website.

                Who does Goodwill help? Goodwill serves those with barriers to employment. This includes individuals with disabilities, people with limited work history, those who have experienced corporate downsizing and recipients of government support programs. Goodwill’s services are designed to meet the training and placement needs of the individual. https://www.goodwill.org/faqs/#d7

                There well known for paying their disabled employees below minimum wage while paying local store CEOs hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

                So don’t tell me about how the high prices I pay will support charities.

              • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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                Goodwill specifically markets itself as a thrift store to help the working class while also helping homeless and disabled people get retail experience to get normal jobs.

                Instead we’ve found out they get their product donated, they pay less than minimum wage (sometimes 22 cents an hour), and they sell at market prices. So that was all a lie. That’s why people are mad. Changing what they say they do now isn’t going to work without a massive PR campaign to show people the out of store projects they do. And then we’re all going to ask where the money for that PR campaign came from. They are a shit company, and a shittier charity.

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                  Can you link some of these ads you’re talking about? I don’t really see any ads for them ever.

                  I don’t think they hide that they sell things that are donated, since they want people to donate. They also dont sell things at market prices, especially not from what I’ve seen personally. I bought a $600 snowboarding jacket there for $85 once. It wasn’t $8.50, but 80% off for a coat in pristine condition is nowhere near “market” prices. I’ve got tons of things from years of thrifting there that were wildly under “market” prices. I still go regularly and think the prices are very solid for thrift, if occasionally bonkers.

                  It sounds like you have specific issues with Goodwill, which is fine, but the above is how all retail charities work. The store prices are not the charity. The charity comes from the profits from the stores, so all retail charities are incentivized to make a profit. The fact that the prices are much less than market, and that they do some great environmental things as well via recycling is the extra positive bits of retail charity like goodwill or habitat for humanity.

                  If you don’t care to support the model that’s fine, but that’s why they price things the way they do.

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        I went to a Savers (local thrift store chain) about a month ago and they had a boxed Wii console in the glass case. It was used, not sealed, and they wanted $350 for it. I asked the guy if that was a mistake and he told me it was indeed the listed price. “I know for a fact this will never sell at this price because it’s been here for over a year.”

        Some of these employees are just putting crazy prices.

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          Savers is the same as Value Village and it’s a for-profit company that exists in three different countries. They’re not much better than Goodwill, if at all.

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          100% also happening. I bet they found a boxed Wii online listed for $350 and did not check the “sold” prices.

          Then again, “vintage” gaming is having a revival right now, so it’s fully possible it sold for $350 online, but the local customers aren’t the same as the global customers.

    • @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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      I wanna say this has been going on for a while, but it really feels like they’ve cranked it up just recently. I was in a goodwill probably just a month or so ago and it felt like everything there was the same price you’d have gotten it new. It’s insane.

      Stick to your local thrifters, people, chances are they have better shit anyway.

      • @Doombot1@lemmy.one
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        My friend frequents goodwill and one time, he came home super excited to show me the Husky mini socket set he bought. He excitedly told me “oh it was only $35!”, assuming he had gotten a great deal… that same socket set was also $35 brand new at Home Depot. It’s almost predatory because people just assume goodwill has better prices. That said… my friend should’ve been smart enough to double check that before buying it, lol

        • @socphoenix@midwest.social
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          The goodwill near me wants $21 for a pair of jeans that are very obviously used and fairly thin. A thicker pair of jeans is $15.99 at the Walmart 3 miles down the road…

    • socsa
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      They actually sort items and send the stuff which has higher value to stores in wealthier areas.

  • Don Escobar
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    49 months ago

    The “good” will in the name stands for the “blue” in the garment

  • socsa
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    Goodwill has started doing regional pricing. They will actually sort high value items out of donations and send them to higher income areas to target middle class “thrifters” who are not as price sensitive. These stores are basically like TJ Maxx in terms of pricing.

    • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      Fuck the working class if you live in a high cost of living area I guess? But that also explains why my local Goodwill turns away so many donations. They’re getting fed by other places.

    • @Snapz@lemmy.world
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      Also noticed that affluent areas often have donation centers that don’t have attached stores - because they want that fucking treasure for online listings probably.

    • @BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      There was a big expose in them in the early 90’s about how much the top got paid, that 80% of income went to paying staff, and rampant nepotism.

      Fuck Good Will

    • @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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      Why all the hate towards Goodwill ? They are a non-religious, pro-labor, vocational organization that gives everyone a chance at employment through donations and sales of donated goods programs that fund other vocational services as a non-profit.

      people treat them like a dumpster. but they are not a dumpster. and they work towards the good with people in difficult situations.