Stopped watching like 5 mins in cuz boring
Tiktok generation with short attention span detected.
Or Linus Fart Huffer that cant stand his parasocial relationship being threatened with verfiable, backed up facts.
why would I care about tech reviewer drama lol. There’s so much better things to spend your time on
Hey, a fart huffer.
Geez… Watching this now. I’ve been skeptical of LTT for a while and noticed the focus had changed a bit when they launched Short Circuit and such. But I don’t think I could watch LTT without cringing anymore.
Unfortunately corporations will be corporations and these things will always happen, once LMG stopped being Linus media group it became your usually shitty corporation focused purely on profit (while that was the point from the beginning at least then it was for the purpose of getting higher quality content and actually paying Luke)
The have to keep pumping out tons of videos or they take a big profit hit Linus put LMG in quite the pickle
Company is worth a smooth 100 mil. They can afford to hire more people to keep the rate of videos going while improving quality.
That’s its estimated worth according to one potential buyer It’s not their total capital value, revenue, or profit value per year Though they likely have the liquid capital coming into hire a few more while they build out the lab The lab is going to be a money pit for a few years till they hit their ROI The issue is that the rate of growth requires a certain amount of liquid capital to spend that is dependent on pumping out videos across their YT channels They seem to need to slow their roll a bit on that growth
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Dude sold out forever ago. ALL INFLUENCERS ARE JUST CORPORATE MOUTHPIECES.
Guess this is why GN and a few others were not at LTX
Billet Labs has a good case to sue LMG
With what money? Billet labs is 2 regular ass guys with 9-5s (as I understand it), LMG is a 100,000,000 dollar company (at least).
I used to like them, but last time I saw USB C iPhone on thumbnail for news video, which turned out to be absolutely not usb related apple news. That was disappointing.
10 minutes in, oof.
Holy shit lol. I can never watch another Linus video again without thinking about this criticism.
Damn this is eye opening for me. LTT was always my most trusted source for tech reviews. I noticed that they’d make little mistakes every once in a while, but didn’t realize it was part of a larger problem. I actually made a Ryzen 9 7900 buying decision recently because of this video which made it seem like the best value (especially compared to their very confusing 7950x3d review). After watching this GN video though, I feel stupid for not even thinking to check other channels before making a buying decision.
(Although honestly this is a major upgrade over my previous hardware, so even if it wasn’t the best possible option, it’s still a net positive for me.)
I really hope LTT takes this criticism seriously. It’s always gratifying to see misbehavior have consequences on the internet, but these independent reviewers are pretty much the only people on our side as consumers. I’d rather see a course correction than a crash, especially since LMG in particular has a uniquely powerful position and can have real impacts on manufacturers that benefit consumers.
What they did to Billet Labs is evil. I hope LTT gets sued for it.
They’ve already paid what Billet requested, hopefully they also get some publicity out of this to help with the nonmonetary damages as well.
It’s clear that it wasn’t done maliciously, but there must be something seriously wrong with their processes for this to happen in the first place. The other comments they made were just adding insult to injury.
Edit: To clarify, they claimed to have accepted a quote that Billet sent them according to Linus on the forums. This ended up being a lie according to Billet.
They haven’t yet tho, they only responded to billet with a blanket statement that they’ll reimburse them for it. After GN called them out on it, and minutes before making a community post in which they said they have already come to a agreement.
I made my comment before the second GN video came out confirming the timeline, it seems pretty scummy.
Linus said on the forum that they had agreed to pay Billet’s quote, after the 2nd GN video it seems like this wasn’t true.
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Having worked in jobs where you ship and receive stuff, you do certainly acquire a drawer full of strange stuff that is stuck in ownership limbo of “its not ours but we can’t get it to the proper owner for one reason or another either” (especially when its an item crossing largely unrelated subsidiaries of a company)
I can 100% see a communication breakdown of “oops we need to send this back” then it not getting sent out and remaining in limbo, but the person in charge of the collection of ownership limbo items should be damn well aware that these are items that probably need to go back and should have stopped it from being auctioned off!
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No they haven’t, Linus didn’t even offer compensation until this video came out.
The timeline wasn’t known when I made my original comment. His original response implied that they had agreed to the quote long before, though after the second GN video it was made clear that this wasn’t true.
Sounds like GN is interested in reviewing it properly.
Linus decided to not explain at all how this cooler went up for sale instead he doubled down on it as a glitch and no changes will be made to the SOP.
“We’ve investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong” basically
do we know how much was paid to ltt (or charity) for the cooler at auction? I haven’t seen a figure
Not surprised, previous comments made by LTT employees in videos had me disliking them for awhile.
I feel like whatever point Steve is trying to make here could have been a community post or even a short rather than what looks like a 45 minute hit piece on his competitor.
This appears (from the thumbnail and first few minutes of content) to be drama for the sake of drama. If anyone can summarise to the contrary, please do.
Oh look, one of the people Steve talked out. Just dismissing legitimate criticism.
He is showing in video statements and fails done by LTT. There is nothing to water down to people like you. It’s either full data or you will misrepresent what was stated
Oh, he’ll misrepresent what the video was regardless.
His parasocial relationship to Linus must not be threatened by facts and data.
rookie mistake
This was a lot of words for someone who saw a thumbnail and a few minutes of a 40+ minute video
I’ll have you know he uses Arch
could have been a community post or even a short
That’s been the problem, corrects get relegated to a useless stub rather than a genuine effort to set the record.
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Um…Why did I get @'d? I’m not on Rookehs side.
They’re posting from Mastodon, that’s just how it handles comment threads.
My first thought, but then I watched it. I saw some criticism for LTT a while ago but never figured out the issue was that bad. They blatantly mislead the viewers with shit information, worse I’ve seen the videos mentioned in the GN video. Gladly I saw the entire GN video and now I’m fully aware, and to say the least I expect an apology from Linus and a hefty compensation to the company that made the cooling block.
Yeah, I just finished watching it. I stand corrected - first impressions aside, Steve raises some important concerns.
I’m also impressed that he voluntarily de-monetized his own video, it goes a long way to highlighting the principles behind it. Not many content creators literally put their money where their mouth is like that.
I will be interested to see how LMG responds to this.
Honestly, if not with na apology and a promise that they will change policies, plus some compensation to the hurt companies, I will just unsubscribe to them in the future. I’m pro capitalism, I’m pro free market, I understand that a company needs to make money. But if you’re screwing over start ups that are trying to survive on your way, plus use your employees wage as an excuse to do a shit job, you fall.
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That is, as they say, the free market at work.
Yup. There’s other channels doing tech reviews, and probably doing a much better job apparently.
Linus has posted a response on the LTT forums:
From his response:
To Steve, I expressed my disappointment that he didn’t go through proper journalistic practices in creating this piece
I’d be interested to hear what Linus considers to be proper journalistic practice in that case.
The rest of his response goes some way to addressing a few of the concerns raised, but I feel this is going to turn into another “Trust me Bro” debacle (i.e. he cannot seem to take criticism on the chin, no matter how valid or invalid it may be).
I get it a tiny bit. Normal journalist practice would be to reach out for comment on a piece like this. Doesn’t and wouldn’t change the accuracy of the content though.
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He covers nearly all the points you bring here. Definitely worth a watch.
He knew exactly the type of criticism that was going to come of making this video and was prepared to answer each question as well as providing video evidence for his claims.
Cool, in that case I’ll find some time to sit down and listen to his viewpoint.
Communit, post? Sorry but that would be a wall of text.
Short? Dude theres only 60 seconds. Even a good TLDR of a 44min script can et best be shortened to 15-20minDude, at least watch the video before opening your mouth and inserting your foot.
I’m seeing 43k likes and 48k views. That’s insane.
what is the usual ratio?
The ratios sort itself out now but from what I’ve seen the normal ratio on videos usually tends to be 1 like for every 10 views five or take
Never underestimate how sick of LTT’s shit YouTube is.
Anyone who thinks a person reviewing a product is on their side is a mark. The issues with LTT videos is so obvious in hindsight that it’s hilarious that the fans haven’t or refused to notice. I honestly thought being shitty and approachable was their schtick? The people who are incredibly upset are likely to stan Gamers Nexus until they eventually get called out by another tech outlet for similar shit. The drama is fun though.
