Virtual tie 😩
Is there a person alive on this planet now with a so called “spotless” record? OP, are you of all the major decisions Kamala has made and you agree with them?
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“Pedophile” is missing from the trump one…
A perfectly good meme but I would say it might still presume a little too much good faith.
They’re not undecided. They want to vote for Trump and are desperately hoping for a socially acceptable reason to do so.
So frustrating
It appears a good chunk really loves the racism thingy
replace undecided voters with antisemites, and you’ll have this meme dialed in
Say it with me now!
CRITICIZING 👏 THE 👏 ISRAELI 👏 GOVERNMENT 👏 IS 👏 NOT 👏 CRITICIZING 👏THE 👏 JEWISH 👏 PEOPLE. THEY 👏 ARE 👏 NOT 👏 A 👏 BORG 👏 HIVEMIND.
BORG HIVEMIND.
Missed opportunity to say BERG HIVEMIND.
Just saving it for you.
Found the ‘but genocide’ guy…
You mean the Russian asset
You guys are so deep in blue Maga that you can’t even tell the person you’re replying to is pro genocide.
not to be in support of trumb, but if someones records are spotless that is inherently suspicious to me. is she even allowed to run for president if she hasn’t visited a sex trafficker?
Her record isn’t spotless, but when you compare someone to trump it might as well look spotless because the context of trump makes it look so clean
I’m not fully knowledgeable about her record since I have more pressing things to worry about rather than researching harris, but as a queer person, I am aware of some of her shortcomings regarding queer rights.
She has explicitly tried to prevent trans people from receiving gender affirming care when in prison and challenged a ruling in favor of a transwoman to do so.
She also supported trans women in men’s prisons which is an extra horrific experience for a trans person, since queer people are generally more likely to be assaulted, raped, and sexually assaulted in prison. Trans women in men’s prisons have it the worst.
This happened in the past, but with her not explicitly making trans rights a campaign issue in the face of how much discrimination they are currently facing, it is concerning.
thank you for pointing out some of her flaws, I find it appalling that she would not want people to continue medical treatment for a condition that is corelated with suicide while in prison. Where trans people should be located in prison is a difficult question, I think making gender neutral prisons that don’t have convenient places for rape to occur (make all bathrooms be unisex, increase surveillance of employees, eliminate for profit prisons) would probably be the best method, but idk. On the bright side she isn’t trump.
I can recognize a joke when I see one. Take my upvote.
Apparently putting a huge number of people in jail for minor possession of a drug that is only illegal because of racist 70s politics is spotless, and doing so to support capitalizing the prison system, is spotless. I call it dehumanizing and unconstitutional, but I just care about empirical data that apparently is completely unimportant in tribalist capitalist worshiping countries like the USA.
Countless was a little under 2000 people (at least as far as Harris is concerned) That’s about half of what her predecessor in the same office did over roughly the same time period.
Now, that conviction is for “possession, sale, or cultivation”. Most paid a fine rather than serve jail time. We also don’t know the exact breakdown of possession vs sale vs cultivation.
We also know that Harris pushed for decriminalization and legalization in California, and has pushed some of the same as vice president. I think Joe is the roadblock there, even if he was convinced to pardon a bunch of people for simple possession.
I don’t count “spotless prosecutorial record” as a win, but given the two viable choices I’ll take it over “shockingly successful fascist demagogue” every time, and twice on Sundays.
Undecided voter = person who cannot discern truth
I don’t understand how there are undecided voters this election… I understand trump voters. Ride or die republicans, bigots, wealthy people that want more money for themselves. They are fucked up, but they make sense.
But how are you undecided? What are you weighing up. If you’re not in the aforementioned groups, what single positive thing does trump offer?
The only reason I can actually understand an undecided voter is if it’s actually a strategic decision to entice the parties to give them more. An undecided voter is worth so much that Elon is literally giving away millions of dollars to sway them. Yeah it’s chump change to him but it’s still unprecedented. It would be kind of like a nullifying jurur, in that they’re saying something completely different than what they’re thinking. That totally gives undecided voters way more credit than they’re actually due, because in reality they’re just ignorant of the situation.
I’ve seen some people try the free speech angle. But that isn’t true either. Neither he nor Elon are actually about free speech.
No, they’re inherently more anti free speech than the people they’re puroportedly against, anyone using that justification is either ignorant or only cares about not getting in trouble for being a bigot
Undecided voters aren’t undecided because they’re oblivious to what’s going on. They’re undecided because they live in a swing state, so they have more power than the average voter, and most importantly they want something. They see the candidates campaigning specifically for them. They’re hoping to be offered a promise they actually care about.
My guess is the Palestinian issue which puts people on the fence. Both parties would still support the Israeli government.
Both parties would still support the Israeli government.
Exactly, and Trump is so much worse in everything else, not to mention that he’d also be worse in the very Palestinian issue you’re concerned about! Even with this issue in the equation I still don’t understand it
Well, I’m not American so I cannot feel the existential dilemma between picking a genocider or ride or die genocider. But if I am electing, I certainly don’t want to feel being forced to pick either two. I imagine many Americans probably feel uncomfortable with that as well.
Additionally, another factor with Trump still polling remarkably well is because a lot of people perceive the economy under Trump to be better. Take it as you will, but people under economic pressure feel forced to pick the extreme. People typically value economic security over liberty, unfortunately.
Yeah, the ingrained illusion that Republicans are better for the economy is a very unfortunate one
in the states it’s so easy. you just choose between the status quo or the obvious deranged evil. here we vote on the lower positions and nobody ever knows who any of them are and we don’t have proportional so everyone just votes by party and the names are largely meaningless
Spotless is a gross way to describe her career as a prosecutor.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted, Harris isn’t perfect but with Trump on the other side not much is required of her to be the best option.
Harris is far worse than Trump. Her record includes extending peoples prison sentences for cheap labor to fight fires. Jailing parents of truant kids. Laughing about smoking weed herself after imprisoning people for it. Most of the people she kept behind bars are black.
You know what trump did? He gave permanent funding to HBC colleges. His First Step act reversed Biden’s Crime Bill that targeted black people. He also created a way for criminals to rejoin society after they finish their sentencing.
To anyone that may be reading along and found this in the comments:
The comment I am responding to above illustrates how easy it is to cherry pick what makes one look bad, and the other look good, but it only works when one foregoes all evidence and empirically proven facts in favor of rhetoric and agenda.
Keep this in mind.
I didn’t cherry pick, I came up with major good things trump did and major bad things Kamala did. I can’t think of one good thing Kamala has done, her record is atrocious, and I responded to each claim the previous commenter made. Just took me a few days, since I have a life.
ROFL!
I didn’t cherry pick
and the immediately after….
I came up with major good things trump did and major bad things Kamala did.
I honestly have no words…
I mean, I followed up with I dont know anything good she’s done. She hasn’t done anything good. Id definitely list good things she did if there were any. There just aren’t any.
Ha. Haha. Hahaha hahaha. Oh man, thanks for the laugh.
I mean, these are proven things he did. You can laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that these things happened
I’ll go as far to say she’s a huge piece of shit that smells less bad than trump but you’re still working with a turd
I’m going to go out on a pretty long limb here and suggest the possibly that they’re not actually undecided at all.
I’ve read (not sure how true) that it’s not necessarily undecided between Harris and Trump - more undecided about even showing up to vote.
I honestly don’t know what’s worse.
Each is worse than the other.
My Mexican immigrant coworker believes that if Kamala gets elected that immigrants will be deported but also immigrants are getting too much free money and food stamps and things like that. He really has bought into some kind of weird belief that Donald Trump is a better candidate. He can’t vote because he’s not a citizen. I think he’s just pissed off because he works two jobs and sees people who get free stuff and don’t come here legally as lazy.
Trying to combine immigrants in your first sentence is so disingenuous. Here’s what makes it clear:
Legal Immigrants are different than illegal immigrants. Of course your coworker is pissed off that he’s come here legally and is not getting rewarded for it. Whether the ones who come illegally are lazy or not doesn’t make a difference. They shouldn’t be given anything we currently give them. We have veterans dying in the streets getting nothing. Everyone should be mad about it.
What you’re saying is not precisely true. To register for food stamps, well, you need to be registered. Likewise for other forms of welfare.
Illegal immigrants are not coming to this country and living off of welfare. That is not happening.
But even if it was, are you seriously going to tell me that the solution to that is to kick those immigrants out? To round them up in camps? That’s not going to help homeless veterans.
People like you will either believe in stupid arguments or talk in bad faith, and then not actually support welfare or UBI at all.
Illegal immigrants aren’t getting money and services through our usual welfare program, but nice try implying that’s what we’re claiming.
And yes, kick out the ones here illegally. Not sure where you’re getting camps from, just move them out. Then we need to redirect sources to Americans that need it and we need to make sure those are being spent properly and not disappearing into bureaucratic pockets.
Are there really many voters undecided between Harris and Trump?
I have a friend who voted for Trump and now he is undecided. Now he is saying he isn’t voting for anyone. I guess that’s better than voting for Trump. He lives in AZ. So that is sorta a win.
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Naw there’s just a bunch of people who won’t admit they’re voting for Trump when you ask them. They also don’t want their friends/community thinking they’re voting for a Democrat either so they just lie and say they’re undecided or even more likely Independent™ because that sounds cool anyway. They know they’re voting for a fascist but also want to have their cake too and not publicly admit it.
They may not even want the fascist part. But they’re voting for Trump because they think one day they’ll make over $500k/yr and they don’t want to pay “200% more taxes” (it’s actually 2%) when that day inevitably comes. The rest of them secretly would rather kill their children than let a black woman run our country, but they’d never say it.
Statistically, that’s just not true. Just look at the differences from the polls, the margin between Harris and Trump has moved quite some percentage points back and forth. E.g. after RFKs endorsement, more undecided voters went to Trump and after the debate, more went back to Harris.
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Left out rapist under Trump’s “accomplishments”
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According to judge Kaplan, he did, in fact, rape her: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.212.0.pdf
He raped his exwife, it was in their divorce filings. He did it as revenge for his hair plug surgery going badly.
He was found guilty of sexual assault.
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Whether or not he was convicted, it’s a fact that he is a rapist.
It won’t end after the polls close. The MAGA cult has been setting the stage to fight any results they don’t like which will certainly create a large amount of time until the results are fully certified.
Is that not included in felon?
Not all felons are rapists not has he ever been actually criminally convicted of the crime of rape, so no.
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