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“Most of the world’s video games from close to 50 years of history are effectively, legally dead. A Video Games History Foundation study found you can’t buy nearly 90% of games from before 2010. Preservationists have been looking for ways to allow people to legally access gaming history, but the U.S. Copyright Office dealt them a heavy blow Friday. Feds declared that you or any researcher has no right to access old games under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, or DMCA.”
Well, maybe we need a movement to make physical copies of these games and the consoles needed to play them available in actual public libraries, then? That doesn’t seem to be affected by this ruling and there’s lots of precedent for it in current practice, which includes lending of things like musical instruments and DVD players. There’s a business near me that does something similar, but they restrict access by age to high schoolers and older, and you have to play the games there; you can’t rent them out.
People will just continue pirating those games then.
The most popular games will likely continue to get pirated, all this will do is guarantee that some small vintage games are lost to time.
Bought judges belong against a wall, so that we can pick them last in dodgeball.
I think they might need to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
Good thing the “Feds” have zero jurisdiction in my country then. Feck em.
insane takeover of the public square here.
good emulators out there. haven’t tried any lately
Hell yeah. Everything “retro” is easily emulated. And anything easily emulated has a ROMpack of all of the games that exist for it, you can download if you have a HDD that costs less than the cost of the original console alone.
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“Fair Use” is a thing. Someone needs to go back to law school.
Pearson is trying really fucking hard to write that out of the public consciousness. I took an econ 101 class about 12y ago for funsies and the section of the course on copyright insisted that “the rights of copyright owners” were absolute with no exemptions.
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how do the rights of the copyright holders interact with CCTV?
Bet you read that in a textbook
I’m glad I keep backup copies of anything that might be important later on, like the 40 gig MAME Rom library.
It sounds like the problem is not with the feds but with the DMCA. It needs to be overturned.
The dmca is a federal law, it is the feds.
“Sounds like the problem is federal law pushed by Congressmen paid for by corporate lobbyists, not the federal government.”
Aka. regulatory capture
Judging by the responses in here, it sounds like gamers need to quit and find something else to do
Does this mean my library isn’t allowed to have games you can check out anymore? It’s been doing that (and other things that aren’t books) for at least a decade now with donated items.
This is more about the online one you can do with books and movies, they wanted to expand it to retro games and ESA fought tooth and nail to deny it.
Read a comment a while ago that if libraries weren’t a thing today and someone would propose them, the FBI would be on their ass and stalk after them for even suggesting such radical views. Copyright law is utterly broken and a disservice to society in it’s current form and execution. Politicians need to get their fat fingers out of the stock market by law.
I really feel like the source code needs to be released after 25 years. We need to be able to protect older games.
There’s often no in any way complete source code after 25 years.
Media degrade, get forgotten hell knows where, get occasionally destroyed.
All things that can be prevented in the future if you start today.
I’ve been saying that we need to have a law on the books to require any online components of a game be required to have the source to those features be released upon closure of the online service. I would be fine with them then being except from any security liability for anyone who gets hacked by use of that software and even retaining ownership of the IP, so no one could sell access to the service, but being able to stand up fan-run servers for old Xbox-live games or dead MMOs more easily would be really great. I’m locked out of so many PlayStation trophies simply because online servers have been down for ages now.
archive.org is the modern proposal of a library, and yeah, look what’s happened to them
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They’re trashing our rights!
Hack the planet!
Trashing!
Guess I don’t understand, are they saying places Like Vintage Stock that sells old games illegal? Or are they talking about digital backups of these games. Regardless fuck them and the copyright office. This makes me want to pirate more not less.
I answered your question on another thread of the same topic, but I’ll answer it here too for anyone else who has the same question: The law is just about digital backups. Vintage stores are still legal, and if anything this would boost sales at a vintage stores. If the game you’d like to play is unavailable at a vintage store or on eBay (or wherever else) then it will be entirely inaccessible for you to play legally.
luckily there’s more details to read when you click the link.
What???
This isn’t even targeting pirates it’s targeting legitimate users. If anything, this will create more pirates.
basically “dont wanna pay us? fuck off”
Not even, like the article says, they’re not even selling 90% of them, just “fuck you, you can’t play this.”
How does a 1998 law have retroactive rights over previously published works?
Land of the Free, everybody
This is my favorite phrase to point out how fucked up it is we don’t get to decide these changes for ourselves. Started with ‘Oversimplified’ on YT pointing out that the ‘land of the free’ willingly gave up their rights to consuming alcohol in the prohibition