The nearest abortion clinic – in Chicago – was too far away and too expensive for her mother to provide her with the procedure

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    To understand why this is happening, you have to go back in history to the end of the slave trade. When the ability to kidnap people from Africa and bring them back to enslave them was legally ended, the white enslavers realized that the only way they could keep slavery going was to force people to breed more slaves. Google that history. It is utterly abhorrent but necessary to understand where the Republican Party is coming from today.

    Since the end of slavery, a certain contingent in the U.S. has never gotten over the fact that they couldn’t legally have a sub-class of citizens that they could use for free or nearly-free labor. So they kept trying to find other ways to keep people oppressed, and they expanded that oppression beyond just black people and to any of the “less desirable” groups. Think not just Black people, but also Irish, immigrants, Appalachia. They pit these groups against one another because divided people are easier to control. But the goal is the same - have large groups of people poor for generations who have no other option but to work for slave wages and keep the people at the top very, very rich.

    Slavery in the U.S. was a huge economic force, one that a certain contingent (the very wealthy) never got over losing. The next best thing was to create whole groups of people who are desperate enough to work for almost nothing. That’s what we have in this country now. And it works best if those people are constantly putting out more children. That keeps them even more stuck and more desperate, and it keeps a steady supply of cheap labor coming.

    It’s no coincidence that they want abortion ended but also want to ensure those same people are continually subjected to sub-standard education, that those same people are “allowed” to send their kids to work (defeating years of progress through child labor laws), that those people are also unable to access higher education, government benefits, or virtually anything that could potentially make their lives better.

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      Slavery in the U.S. was a huge economic force, one that a certain contingent (the very wealthy) never got over losing. The next best thing was to create whole groups of people who are desperate enough to work for almost nothing. That’s what we have in this country now. And it works best if those people are constantly putting out more children. That keeps them even more stuck and more desperate, and it keeps a steady supply of cheap labor coming.

      In my experience the only difference between a certain kind of right-wing “libertarian” person and a slavery apologist is just the amount of time you’ve spent arguing with them. Their arguments (pro-child marriage, anti-abortion, anti-minimum wage) end up converging at “well, in some cases it’s /more/ expensive to provide people room and board than it would be to pay them in cash”.

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    52 years ago

    I see clinics in Carbondale, about 5 hours South of Chicago. I wonder why that wasn’t an option?

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      “was looking to get an abortion for her daughter but was told the closest abortion provider was in Chicago – a drive of more than nine hours from their home in Clarksdale, Mississippi.”

      They could have been lied to, these people are disgusting. When taken to be seen for her strange behavior before they knew she was pregnant, in response to getting back the positive pregnancy test the nurse asked the girl “What have you been doing?”. There are plenty of people in healthcare that don’t care about these victims either or see them as victims at all.

      Those clinics you see might not give abortions anymore too.

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        Given the geography of the situation, it would be useful to ensure that (1) the southern IL clinics remain open and (2) this information is widely known in the the southern states.

        The Guardian seems to be spreading misinformation by claiming that Chicago is the closest location without further research.

        Edit: here’s a map to clarify:

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          1. You say it’s widely known with no evidence. Widely known to some does not mean it is known to everyone.

          2. The guardian is reporting what they the family were told by the nurse. If you read the original Time article they say that precisely, the nurse told them that’s where the nearest place was. Whether the nurse was correct or not is not what they claimed.

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            You say it’s widely known with no evidence

            I said it would be useful to make the information widely known. Journalists should call up the clinics in southern Illinois, ask if they’re open, and share this information in future articles. I assume they’ll get plenty of opportunities.

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    This is just completely disgusting. When everyone failed her the law wasn’t even on her side. Say what you want about abortions in general, but the audacity that people have to make getting abortions under rape or complications political is just disgusting. My heart truly goes out to this little girl, and her family, but especially the little girl. I can’t imagine the amount of life altering trauma she has gone through, and how this is going to affect her for the rest of her life. This shouldn’t happen to anyone. What the fuck is wrong with people.

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    This is what Republicans want for all of us.

    If Republicans win the next election, they will institute a national abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest.

    If you want to stop this, the only way to do so is to vote for Biden. I really hope people understand this.

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        It’s not even a way to stop them.
        Biden has literally been president during this whole Roe v Wade overturning.
        It’s so exhausting to see libs walk this line so close to being actual progressives, but not, all for their precious capitalism.
        You’re never going to beat the system by playing within the rules it’s set you, the house always wins.

          • @[email protected]
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            122 years ago

            He could have pushed to have it codified.

            He could have also pushed student loan forgiveness for all borrowers instead of the bullshit means testing that got it shut down.

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              Without 60 votes in the Senate, shit, without 50, it codification of abortion rights wasn’t happening. And he did push loan forgiveness, the Supreme Court shut that down.

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                It got shut down because of the means testing he included. If he hadn’t excluded some borrowers it would have gone through.

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                  Nope, it got shut down because the court ruled that it amounted to the executive appropriating money. Means testing is constitutional.

            • prole
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              It wasn’t the means testing that shut it down, if anything it wouldn’t have made it as far as it did without the means testing. As it is, people were already complaining that it was a giveaway to wealthy folks who don’t need it. Take away the income limit and it would have less than zero chance of succeeding.

              The president has very little power over legislative decisions. Yes, he could have used the bully pulpit to advocate for abortion legislation, but it would have accomplished nothing.

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      Voting is good, yes.

      So is protesting. We must use all the tools at our disposal, provided they are used to protect and support the most marginalized of our communities.

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      542 years ago

      What it’s going to take is to vote in Biden, then whoever the Democrats run in 2028, 2032, 2036. Until enough of the Republican justices die in office that actual jurists can replace them.

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    I assume the girl asked help from the republicans around here, but they couldn’t hear her ask over the sound of themselves screaming about how much they want to “protect children”.

    I was reading a description of this popular novel the other day. It was set in America and was supposedly fiction…

    The novel explores themes of subjugated women in a patriarchal society, loss of female agency and individuality, suppression of women’s reproductive rights, and the various means by which women resist and try to gain individuality and independence.

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      Wouldn’t they like to marry the girl to her rapist, because sex outside of marriage is a sin or something?

      • irotsoma
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        Not in a monogamous society. Rapists don’t want to get tied down to only a single child wife. Also, there’s no dowry in our society for the rapist to take the burden of raising the girl off the parents’ hands.

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    And the nurse’s comment on finding a 13 yr old pregnant? “What have you been doing?” For fucks sake, I hate the world.

    • @[email protected]
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      Ah yes let’s slut shame the 13 year olds instead of doing our due diligence as mandated reporters. Smh.

  • ssillyssadass
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    Of course, now that the baby is out the pro-lifers say that they can both go die in a ditch

  • Metype
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    I just woke up and this almost made me puke. This is sick.

    • @[email protected]
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      First and foremost It’s none of your fucking business why a woman seeks an abortion.

      But if you’re also suggesting that this girl did a quote unquote bad thing by being raped, you can absolutely get fucked.

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    An abortion is not something you should need to be able to afford. It’s not a luxury, it’s a (often necessary) medical procedure. So fucked up, all of this. I hope the family can achieve some semblance of happiness some day