• osaerisxero
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    1256 months ago

    imagine if this was the only reason he loses the election. that pr was the decider.

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      It would be a fitting bout of karma after he didn’t give two shits about the response to Hurricane Maria.

    • @[email protected]
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      I think it’s weird that most of his other base are basically cucks in this regard. “I don’t care about you, I need your votes” and they eat it right up, can’t get enought of the alienation. But he’s picked up some bad habits due to it

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          I forgot I can’t use words they use in proper context. They’re cucks. They’re weak, sycophantic losers that fetishize their own disparagement. Boo hoo. Go read a book, preferably a thesaurus

    • Rhaedas
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      That would be awesome. We should give them statehood in return.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, but then they’d have to start paying federal income taxes. That’s a big part of why their statehood referendums are always so close, it’s a legit pros and cons list.

        Last time “yes” did win by just a few percentage points though.

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          The citizens do seem to be split between the choices, and in the end it is and should be up to them. I find it not surprising that the biggest reason for opposition outside PR is because it would change the balance of senators. Which is rich, since Congress as a whole needs a revamp in representation count in the House anyway, but we’ve held to an outdated number because it’s “hard” to change.

          I read there’s another possible option - go back under Spanish governance. I wonder how much support that even gets, or if Spain would even want it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Imagine being the most hated comic ever because you’re racist but also all the racists hate you.

      • osaerisxero
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        56 months ago

        Someone with talent would probably be able to pivot that into some unironic success. Shame about this guy lmao

  • @[email protected]
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    866 months ago

    Someone should’ve reminded him Puerto Rico is an American territory, and its residents are full fledged American citizens. While the island itself gets no electoral college votes, any of its citizens living in one of the 50 states get the same rights and privileges as the rest of us.

    • Nougat
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      Not only do they get no electoral college votes, they don’t get to vote for president at all, though they can vote in the primaries.

      • @[email protected]
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        386 months ago

        Right. Unless they’ve moved away from Puerto Rico and live somewhere in the mainland now, which is a whole shitload of them.

        • @[email protected]
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          376 months ago

          The mere concept of denying certain citizens a right to vote, or a reduced/amplified vote, based on their where they live is entirely anti-democratic.

          It’s amazing how much Americans have just accepted blindly as the pinnacle of freedom.

          • @[email protected]
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            86 months ago

            Agreed. We have similar issues with our electoral college in general. The framers were quite specific in designing a system that wasn’t too democratic. One of the reasons for this was, ironically, a fear that a populist demagogue could take over at some point in the future.

            Go figure. Though I suppose no system is completely immune to demagoguery.

    • @[email protected]
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      A lot of someones did remind him of that after Hurricane Maria, when he loudly bragged about getting on the phone with “the president of Puerto Rico” and was subsequently reminded that that was him.

      Honestly, that’s probably 90% of the reason he even went to Puerto Rico (and threw paper towel rolls at them).

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    People who are the butt of such jokes have an innate tendency to agree and pretend it’s not about them because they’re one of the good ones. It’s sad but that’s basically the same thing happening with the white people the Nazis deemed weren’t pure enough, or the whites the early US settlers used to hate on. In another time, JD Vance would have been too Irish to be Trumps VP. That’s what this whole ideology is based on, there’s no fixed in group, the out group target is always changing.

    • magic_lobster_party
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      I never thought the leopards would eat my face, says person voting for leopards eating faces party.

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        It’s even worse: it’s “I never thought the leopards who said they would eat all faces and actually ate several on live TV would ever actually eat any faces,” says person voting for leopards eating faces party because they promised to eat faces.

  • Bakkoda
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    96 months ago

    We’ve been (not so) micro dosing rage dopamine for too long.

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    In response to questions on the comments, and whether Trump was planning to publicly denounce them, Trump campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement, “Due to President Trump’s plans to cut taxes, end inflation, and stop the surge of illegal immigrants at the southern border, he has more support from the Hispanic American community than any Republican in recent history.”

    News outlets need to stop giving non-responses space in their stories. The PR people don’t answer questions because they can just say whatever pro-candidate message they want and the journalists will print it. Say they gave a response that didn’t address the subject and move on, don’t promote their alternate messaging.

    • @[email protected]
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      56 months ago

      I want media to say something like:

      A spokesperson for the trump campaign, when asked, spoke on another issue. We’re still receiving clarification at press time.

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    Forgive my pessimism, but while this is the sort of thing that could sink a “normal” campaign, the cult of personality around Trump has been weathering stuff like this since 2016 or even earlier. I’ll believe that this is impacting voter sentiment when I see it reflected in the results after election day. Until then, it just feels like more wishful thinking.

  • @[email protected]
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    696 months ago

    Vance said that he had not heard the joke and that “maybe it’s a stupid racist joke” or “maybe it’s not”

    Schrödinger’s racism, apparently

      • NegativeNull
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        It is (I watched that exact site the last two cycles). It’s being manipulated to hell now since lots of people started paying attention to it. None of the betting sites are accurate (just like modern polls).

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        You can’t bet on it, but it aggregates the odds from other sites.

        Basically, if someone who does the research is actually die-hard believing Trump can’t win Pennsylvania, they can make a good amount of cash by betting on Harris in the next 2 weeks.

        But the fact we see all these articles and Trump’s odds have (only increased), probably means these articles are horse shit

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          The problem is that informed opinion thinks that Trump has something around a 50% chance of winning there. That’s a kind of risk that regular people can’t put serious money into.

  • n1ckn4m3
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    476 months ago

    No it’s not. This is bullshit. Nothing Trump does alienates his voters. GO VOTE. I have it on good authority that Trump could literally shoot someone in Times Square in broad daylight and somehow not lose a single vote for it and at this point I fucking believe it.

    GO VOTE

    • @[email protected]
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      Trump could literally shoot someone in Times Square in broad daylight and somehow not lose a single vote for it

      One of the only true things Trump has ever said

    • @[email protected]
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      Exactly. There’s not a whole huge contingent of upset Puerto Rican living in Pennsyltucky that’s not voting for Trump.

      Those racist assholes are still laughing at the joke and voting in that battleground state.

  • @[email protected]
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    Funniest thing is that if that dude had just said, “Cuba,” this would have been a non-issue. The joke structure would have been exactly the same, and it would have still been a dog whistle for racists, but Cuban Americans are largely anti-communist ex-pats. They probably wouldn’t have been thrilled to hear Cuba described as garbage, but if they got angry, it probably would have blown over by saying, “the joke was a reference to what communism has done to cuba.” Instead, he picked an island full of people that can easily move to the US mainland and vote. Absolutely spectacular.

  • peopleproblems
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    Heh.

    November 6th, 2024 c/nottheonion “Puerto Rico decides election, most polls say Trump’s blatant racism was a final straw.”

  • ohellidk
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    106 months ago

    I doubt there will be much change in the next poll from there. if you haven’t yet, go vote.

    • @[email protected]
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      It doesn’t have to.

      In US politics you ha e to win someone’s vote twice. Firstly to have them think you’re the best choice, and secondly to have them vote.

      This will prompt a lot of tepid Harris supporters to actually vote for her.

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      And each one of them were present in that arena.

      Do I think all the morons present finally understand what they are supporting? Nope. But in a tight race, you only need a couple here and there to win.

      This gave them more than a couple.

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        With the controversy I watched the entire routine. It was cringey punching down the nearly entire set. He asked the Latinos to cheer, then joked that all the Latinos present were evidence of illegal border crossings. The one bit of hope I got watching it is there were few people laughing and cheering at the horrible jokes. The main positive crowd reactions were from empty platitudes of how good America is, and a joke about Harris.

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          The other bit of hope is that the people attending are some of the worst of the worst. So if even they are starting to think this is going too far, hopefully the rest are starting to pull the wool from their eyes.