• NoneOfUrBusiness
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    We also want to congratulate our friends in the Republican party, they played a great game and we can’t wait to work with them more.

    Republican National Committee Chair Michael Whatley is excited to see his colleagues at the DNC make the same mistakes over and over.

    This is amazing.

    “I saw how the DNC ignored voters, I saw how they talked down to people, and that just made my job easy. I go in and say ‘Democrats think you’re dumb, but Republicans think you’re a genius’ and these dopes eat it up like the slop they feed their pigs.

    Holy fuck is this even satire anymore? I can literally see a GOP campaign official say that in private.

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      In private? I can see them saying it on TV and the rubes still voting for them since all they watch is Fox News and they’d never run it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Trump won Michigan by doing the absolute bare minimum of pretending to care about the core issues Harris actively ignored (cough genocide).

      And also paying probably like 50 bucks to spam send this image for two weeks.

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    64 percent of native americans voting trump was an eye opening stat for me. They are done w the status quo. 2020 it was 54 percent.

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    The funniest part of this is the idea that there will be an opposition party in anything but a token way after this.

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        Was there a party that did not install SCOTUS justices that were so ideologically conservative that they did things like end national legal abortion and gut the ability of government regulation agencies to regulate?

        Yes there was. But that party is not coming back except as a token now because people just didn’t think stopping the rapist fascist dictator was a good enough reason to vote.

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          But that party is not coming back except as a token now because people just didn’t think stopping the rapist fascist dictator was a good enough reason to vote

          The party didn’t think stopping the rapist fascist dictator was a good enough reason to listen to their voters

          FTFY

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            Nope. They can’t force anyone to vote for them. People thought not voting was a better plan than stopping the rapist fascist dictator when they only had two possible choices.

            There was an absolute mountain of evidence that Trump would be a disaster. They didn’t vote anyway because they knew they weren’t going to get a pony.

            Voting for people in a two-party system is the stupidest thing you can do because you will never get your way with any one politician. So you vote against and keep voting against until you get closer and closer to what you want.

            Just not voting or voting for third party candidates that will clearly lose against someone who has an automatic 30% of the vote doesn’t stop the worst possible thing from happening and it never will.

            If you didn’t vote to stop Trump from getting into office, I blame you. You had warning after warning and your idealism was more important to you.

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              I agree with Flying Squid. It’s bizarre to think any sane person would now decide that the right strategy is to hate on minorities, or ditch all pretty normal behaviour such as adhere to the FUCKING LAW, NOT LIE (and spare me the #FalseEquivalence, it’s jaywalking Dems vs serial rapist Trump) and listen to effing EXPERTS. Dems should stick to their principles and await the serious shit show which is gonna happen with mass deportations, tariffs and even MORE INFLATION.

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              They can’t force anyone to vote for them.

              Yup, which is why you need to give them reason to vote.

              Democrats have been parading around “most important election of our lifetime” for fucking years - don’t be surprised that it didn’t work yet again.

              The reason why Trump is popular is because there is legitimate pain and struggle in the working class, and he affirmed that pain and struggle (even if he was misidentifying the source of that pain). Telling voters “things are good, actually, and the other guy is gonna ruin it” is just dumb.

              Democrats didn’t run on popular policy and they got destroyed because of it.

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                Your post is CLASSIC misdirection and misrepresenting what the Dems actually did. IF these elections were fair, and I’ve reason to think they were not, then they got lost on higher gas prices. Which is A PRETTY STUPID AND SELFISH reason to vote for/not care about mass deportations. And they lost it on not attacking trump on the border and on the economy.

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                  So we are now in MAGA election rigging conspiracies? JFC. Trump even won the popular vote.

                  Look at the 2020 popular vote. Trump got 74 Mio. votes back then and 72 Mio. Now

                  The Dems went from 81 Mio. to 67 Mio.

                  The Dems succesfully fucked this up with uninspiring candidates and lack of vision to rally their voters.

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                Who said “things are good actually”?? Seems to me that Harris had plenty of policy proposals that would have resulted in a meaningful improvement to the bottom line of the average American.

                Biden has also been better for the average American than trump was. For fucks sake, Trump actually got away with raising taxes on all of us to support his tax cut for the rich, simply because the average person is too low information to grasp the idea of a tax cut that expires!

                So yeah, plenty of actual reasons to say that one candidate is better than the other, without needing to be wowed by an actual messiah who can dismantle our fucked up system and solve everybody’s problems.

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                  Biden did very early and then learned to not say that again.

                • archomrade [he/him]
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                  They repeatedly touted our economic recovery was ‘the best in the G6’.

                  Even when our economy is ‘good’ it’s shit for most people. That’s the problem with being a neoliberal status quo party: it doesn’t help most of the people they need to vote for them

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                  Regardless of what Biden has done for the average American, his approval rating has been really bad for a while now. It may not be right or fair, but that’s what it is.

                  Despite Harris not actually being the incumbent, the Republicans managed to associate her with Biden and she more or less embraced it. Then the Republicans were able to frame themselves as the challenger to an unpopular incumbent president and it’s not surprising they did well.

                  Of course, it didn’t help either that Harris is the VP either. Perhaps if we had a primary and managed to pick another candidate that could distance themselves a bit better from Biden things would be different.

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                They had a reason to vote.

                Their reason was that a rapist fascist who quoted Hitler and clearly has dementia that promised to deport millions of people and be a dictator on day one only had a 50/50 chance of being president.

                And they didn’t care because they didn’t like Kamala Harris much. Was she any of those things? No. But her boss is funding the same genocide in Israel that Trump said to Netanyahu “finish the job” about on national television, so no one better vote for her either!

                Sorry, not a good enough reason to not stop Trump. Not a good enough reason to refuse to vote. Not a good enough reason to vote third party.

                For fuck’s sake, do you think people voted for Joe Biden in 2020 because they thought he would be a terrific president?

                • archomrade [he/him]
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                  do you think people voted for Joe Biden in 2020 because they thought he would be a terrific president?

                  they voted for Biden because he made meaningful concessions to the progressive caucus. He gave Bernie a prominent roll in his campaign and made promises about student loan forgiveness and raising the minimum wage, on top of affirming people’s anxiety about covid and a pledge to address it.

                  Harris had none of that. She didn’t primary against progressive candidates, didn’t have to address progressive concerns, and when there was vocal opposition to any of her policies she said “excuse me, i’m speaking”. She was more right-moderate than Biden was, even if only because she didn’t face the progressive primary he did.

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              There was an absolute mountain of evidence that Trump would be a disaster.

              nobody gives a fuck about that. most people aren’t clocked into online politics. they just live under one admin where trump benefits from obama’s policy, things are squeaky clean for the most part, and then they’re chilling, and then they move to living under joe biden where a once in a lifetime (hopefully, haha) pandemic decides to fuck shit up during the transition from one admin to the other, on top of inheriting a much worse economy, and then they attribute that to biden. it’s not a super complicated figure, there, and that’s all on top of biden just not being a very popular candidate to begin with.

              if you actually look at the numbers, then the third party candidates had less of an effect for kamala than the third party candidates for trump did. which makes sense, because RFK, at the least, was campaigning on some sort of dystopian vision of the future that his deluded q-anon supporters actually liked, and he had money. jill stein is just grifting like always, basically, no change there, and no change with the lesser known candidates either, really. the bigger story is that a shit ton of the voters stayed home.

              everyone wants to shift blame from the democratic party, which has obviously either mishandled this campaign or intentionally lost as a party of controlled opposition, and shift the blame onto the voters. ah, well, it was latino men’s fault for being too socially conservative! ah, it was the third party voters and the leftists! it was the arab americans, who should’ve voted after we funded the bombs that killed their whole entire family! it was trans people, for just being too weird! those are all legitimate explanations I’ve heard people bring up, and I’d classify them all as basically the same, because they all equally have no evidence behind them. the real story is that she had low voter turnout. probably because she was associated with the least popular administration in decades, and refused to distinguish herself from that, and on top of that, campaigned with like, liz cheney. the most she did was offer like, tax exemptions for people starting small businesses, and tax exemptions for people who haven’t missed their rent a single time in the last kajillion years. it’s not rocket science, that’s just not really an inspiring campaign. if they had low voter turnout, that’s probably why, it’s probably not because america is just too racist to vote for a black woman or whatever shit everyone’s bloviating about so they can justify the democratic party turning to the right even more.

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                I keep seeing this “people let the fascist genocidal dictator get in because they weren’t excited about Harris” excuse as if it is a good one. It isn’t.

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    Have they tried committing multiple felonies ? Are they even watching and learning ?

    • ohellidk
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      seriously. they’ll have a LOT more believable articles for the next few years.

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        Colbert was satire when he just copied what Republicans were saying, with the obvious intentions of “Jesus Christ, do they even hear themselves?”

        The Onion can be satire now, and when “No way to prevent this, says the only country where this happens on a regular basis.”

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    Pffft!!! If your idea of “learning” is to copy any of the fascist ideas of trump, then yes, they should NOT learn anything. Did Jews after Hitler go fascist… Oh wait.

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    Why are all you fools like “HA! BY NOT VOTING I SURE SHOWED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY”?

    you played YOURSELVES. You’re the one that’s gonna suffer not the party. It’s like you shot yourself just to spite Democrats, and you don’t realize that it’s you who is fucked, not the Democratic party

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      I voted for Jill Stein since I live in a pure blue state and my vote doesn’t count anyway

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          You know there are local elections that matter more right? Thats where most of us are these days.

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          Well they might have turned out and voted down ticket and showed us what candidates and policies did motivate them but you told them their votes would be worthless if they didn’t specifically vote for Kamala so they stayed home.

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      Also the campaign was bad. Not a soul here on lemmy or anywhere else is going to personally out-message a national campaign. People are obviously more enthusiastic to vote for something than to vote against something else, and that’s what it came down to.

      Be mad at your party, they threw this election right before your eyes and you plugged your ears and went “lalalala! trump voter says what!” when we tried to tell you that you needed to pressure them to do more or they were going to lose anyways.

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        Right?

        They want progressives to be both a small minority they can ignore, but also 17 million people?!

        That would make them 20% of the party…

        If 20% of your own party can out message your own campaign, then it’s a shit campaign. Even before factoring in the billion plus dollars you compromised the party platform to raise and the fact that the opponent is trump.

        We can’t keep letting the DNC be the only other option. They’re clearly not capable of it.

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          I remember people here getting crapped on for saying Biden should drop out and let someone else run.

          Yet the moment he did, it became some 4D chess move that was going to win the election.

          And then the same people were crapped on for “selfishly” asking for a primary to choose a candidate instead of being force fed Harris.

          The most delusional person I saw was someone who was convinced the uncommitted movement was backing Harris, after getting banned from the DNC rally for not unconditionally backing Harris…

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      I can’t in good consciousness vote for genociders, so I voted third party, my only anti genocide option.

      CRY ABOUT IT.

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        Lol the third party candidates are also anti Palestine. That’s why you should not make another country’s war, your one issue election in your own country. Especially when every candidate is against you. All you did was allow the worse one to win, insuring the destruction of Palestine which is now on your hands. Way to support genocide

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          Nice circular logic there bud. You late for after school debate class? Is mom checking your homework?

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            Whatever. I’m done arguing with you Americans. I used to think you guys were stupid, now I know you’re actually fascists. You’ve collectively become the dumbest people on earth

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              Lol, you’re not even American and you’re arguing about this? Do you even know how the electoral college works? Do you know how any of our government structure works?!

              If you took every single third party vote across the country and gave all of them to Harris in just the swing states (some democracy we’ve got…) trump still would have won, in a landslide no less. And still won the senate, and it looks like the house is still projected to go Republican as well.

              I’m a Vermonter. Vermont was going in a landslide to Harris (president), sanders (senate), and Scott (governor) no matter who I voted for on any of those lines. I voted third party in all three of those races (I once worked for the sanders campaign in 2015 but I’m so tired of his milquetoast bullshit as of late) and then in other local races it was a split ticket. For example, Vermonts Republican running for state treasurer wants to divest state pensions from blackrock. Meanwhile, the democrat incumbent just gave typical mealymouthed democrat party platitudes that were completely meaningless. The Republican in that race got my vote because they earned it.

              The entitlement of libs is unreal.

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          Can’t kill already dead people. They’re both killers, it’s hard to be worse than biden/Harris are currently supporting.

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            Trump has told Bibi to “Finish the job in Gaza”. Bibi will ethnic cleanse Gaza and the West Bank- there will be no Palestine, just Greater Israel. And that is better than Biden/Harris?

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      Really felt the need to embody that headline huh.

      The voters must come to the party, not the other way around.

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        If standing against fascism doesn’t bring the leftists to vote, you’re doomed. And AGAIN, you only fucked yourselves. The Democratic party isn’t gonna suffer, YOU are.

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          That’s the argument for replacing them…

          Not enabling them and giving them what they want.

          Like, you’re literally arguing that we should negotiate with the people holding our country hostage

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            Idiots, you’re the only ones suffering. The Democratic party will be fine, you won’t. You had more to lose by not voting.

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          They’ve had four years to deal with the fascism problem and so far they’ve done Jack shit.

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            Ah ok that’s why you just stood off to the side and allowed fascism to win? The Democratic party didn’t end fascism, so you may as well join the fascists?

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              I voted third party. What are the democrats doing to fight fascism other than… courting fascists themselves?

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                You guys really are fucked. I thought just the right way stupid in your country but it’s all of you. And you guys love fascism. You facilitated it.

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        So you’re saying we should all make our own party? With blackjack and hookers?

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          Well that would be a lot more fun while being just as effective as the Democratic party, so why not?

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      You aren’t going to like this, but there just isn’t a reason to vote for Democrats if they aren’t going to oppose the Republicans on anything but the personality of Donald Trump.

      Sure, they give us lip service, they even throw in goodies once in a while! You get all warm and fuzzy imagining all the things you can “move them” on, but even if they do “listen” to you, (seriously, you guys didn’t even like their platform, and you’re the ones loyal to them. Whose votes are they earning if not yours??) they get challenged and they throw their hands up and say “guess there’s nothing that could be done” and Republicans get whatever they want anyways.

      It’s the same outcome, this one just makes you feel bad and dare I say it might actually move you to act.

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        Again with the “YOU” aren’t gonna like this. No man it’s you voters who fucked yourselves. The Democratic party is gonna survive and it’s politicians aren’t gonna get poorer. It’s you who suffers

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          I bet your solution is to just vote harder for the same fucking assholes who are fucking us all over! That will show them!

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            Stupid stupid stupid.

            Yeah your solution of not voting at all and allowing Trump to win is a much better option lol

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              I voted third party thank you very much. Trump voters voted for trump. Harris voters voted for Harris. Third party voters voted for third parties. The democrats ran an awful candidate and then have the audacity to whine bitch moan and scream about how it’s voters fault that they ran a shit ass candidate.

              2016 all over again. Trump would of won 2020 too if covid never happened. The democrats are a decaying corpse of a political party and need to be replaced.

              Doing the same thing over and over, failing, and expecting it to somehow work if you just do it harder next time is fucking madness.

              DECADES OF NEOLIBERALISM CREATED THE MATERIAL CONDITIONS FOR FASCISM TO TAKE ROOT.

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                  Don’t you have homework to do in your parents basement?

                  That’s not how voting works, but given I’m probably arguing with a child I’m not surprised you don’t understand how voting works.

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    Does make you wonder how different America’s political system is to Russia’s if a little more subtle about it

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    So far what I have learned about what Kamala has learned is:

    It is now the darkest night in America.

    But…

    There are billions of stars you can only see at night!

    You know, faint, distant glimmers from long, long ago, that you can squint at and imagine they form coherent, stable, meaningful structures… which are not, and never really were there at all.

    I do not know if she was intentionally attempting to invert/reference Reagan’s ‘Morning in America’ and HW’s ‘Thousand points of light’, or if she somehow thought this was an original, meaningful metaphor.

    Either would be pathetic and disgusting.

    Anyway, quite literally that may have been how democracy in America died, to another speech of meaningless platitudes, ending with thunderous applause, congratulating that a failed struggle was worth it, because even though it failed, it played by the rules and was gracious in defeat.

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    It’s going to be really fun to see them dust off the same exact playbook next time around, I already have two copies of it, I use one to even out the table in my kitchen, and the other I use the pages to pick up my dogs shit in the yard.”

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    Democrats have to be deft and diplomatic and do the right things all the time that somehow appeal to all the Americans (including Americans on opposite sides like Palestine supporters and Israel supporters) and they lose if they fumble even a little bit.

    Unlike the MAGA party of bigots who can’t lose no matter how much of dipshits they are.

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      And when they lose they take the high road of blaming themselves. It’s en exercise in self flagellation.

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      Bro BFFR Dems had Dick and Liz Cheney endorsing her, exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

      Edit to add: this is who they sent to stump for Harris in Michigan and other swing states btw

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          The same ones they had in 2020 because it turns out only 5% of Republicans know what republicanism is.

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        exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

        Centrists. There was a reason that when Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, they didn’t stop being a rubber stamp for Cheney’s war.

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        She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

        But sure, it was the Cheneys that outweighed everyone else. That’s the problem, not American voters who didn’t think ‘holy shit everyone across the sociopolitical landscape is coming together supporting her, trump is that much of a serious threat’.

        Great work👍

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          She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

          ah yes, taylor swift, noted political figure. surely, that will drive turnout. obama and bernie sanders, yes, great choices, truly, this will save us even when we’re not campaigning on their policies. mark cuban. yes. multiple military generals, very cool.

          extrapolate what you actually mean with this train of thought. what do you think the democrats should’ve actually done differently? they’re the ones who’ve lost, what should they have done more? who should they have appealed to? seems like everyone wants to put the emphasis solely on the trump voters and the non-voters, and since the non-voters are non-voters, oh, wowie, look at that, all we have left are trump voters to go after.

          shocker. I wonder what the party will head after, with this train of thought? I wonder which direction they’ll go in? surely, they wouldn’t double down, right? surely, they wouldn’t go further after the trump voters, after all the committed registered republican voters that turned out last time switched and… lost them a percentage point in that category, this go around. from 6% to 5%. we should emphasize the trump voters more, we should go after them more, obviously, because they’re the only ones willing to vote!

          extract what you’re talking about, extrapolate. if you just run around up in your feels as a non-american, blaming the wind for blowing, then you’re just gonna end up blasting darpanet even harder.

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          I mean she chose to spend the last weeks essentially campaigning with the cheneys that’s different than just an endorsement when they star in dozens of rallies.

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          I dont think that everyone gives the same weight to those peoples opinions. Some see Obama as a war criminal, mark Cuban is in the billionaire class and is against business regulation, taylor swift is also a billionaire, and Beyonce is a billionaire as well?

          Bernie gave the same vote against tyranny stuff the democrats were saying. I dont recall him being excited about Kamala’s policy, was he?

          If the republicans are running on change, and the democrats are running on not changing, but most americans want things to change, it shouldnt be shocking which one wins.

          The democrats could have offered up a better idea to change the country but they didnt. They tried to scold and patronize people into voting for them instead.

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            If the republicans are running on change, and the democrats are running on not changing, but most americans want things to change, it shouldnt be shocking which one wins.

            Most Americans are in for a rude awakening if they think the change republicans are proposing are the same change they want. Or maybe they do want wrecked economy, dismantled healthcare, and internment camps for ‘’‘illegals’‘’. Who the fuck knows.

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              Yes, it they still don’t want the status quo, so they would not have been happy either way. The point is that the party proposing a change can scoop up votes of those wishing for change, which is most people.

              Biden didn’t win on no change. He won on change from trumps presidency. Change wins. Proposals win. Stability is good, but if people don’t feel stability, like with runaway inflation, or a recent global pandemic, or a recent trump presidency, then saying things are stable and good is not a winner. They are not.

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                The point is that the party proposing a change can scoop up votes of those wishing for change, which is most people.

                Shouldn’t we blame voters for not looking at what change is being proposed?

                Oh wait, many of them were being told she’s worse than Trump, going to start the next world war, jail white men, or other such nonsense on social media or podcasts.

                • @[email protected]
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                  96 months ago

                  All of that’s true, but not how the general voting population works. We have to live in the world that exists, not the one where everyone is paying as much attention as they should.

                  Alternatively, this should be massive fucking sign that the general voting populace is so desperate for any change that they’d go for horrible changes rather than perpetuating the status quo.

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                  46 months ago

                  There is enough blame to go around. However, voters as a bloc is a more nebulous concept than a voter or party.

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              16 months ago

              well, hey, they’re all american voters, right, and apparently we’re all too moronic to understand the basic things at stake, so maybe that is what we deserve, right?

        • @[email protected]
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          476 months ago

          You’re in the headline, btw.

          It’s insane to me how Democrats keep appealing to the right, when their historically greatest turnout has been galvanizing their base like with Obama.

          And yes, a war criminal’s endorsement is more important to me than a pop star’s. One of them actually works in policy.

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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            36 months ago

            You’re in the headline, btw.

            I’m not American.

            And most Trump voters/no voters are going to wish they weren’t either in three or so years.

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              I’m not American

              I…then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat? Does that happen where you live?

              Harris didn’t lose because everyone voted for Trump, Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said. The numbers and voter stats are all there for people to read. Harris AND Trump got overall less votes than 2020, but Harris lost the Blue Wall from 2020. Hillary at least won the popular vote, Harris and the 2024 DNC don’t even have that.

              It doesn’t matter where you are in the world, voter turnout correlates to progressives getting in power. The conservatives always have a core base of ~20-30% of voters that will always show up (no really, look up historical voter numbers in your own country), and the DNC have really tried appealing to these people in the US instead of bringing out their own base!

              It’s a flawed strategy because it’s shown over and over again that these core voters will always vote through their conservative party lines.

              • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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                I…then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat?

                You’re right. Too stupid of me to think Americans would hold their noses and vote to keep someone who’s objectively worse for the whole planet out of the oval office.

                Does that happen where you live?

                No unfortunately, but I live in a third world country full of uneducated population. Again, dumb of me to assume Americans would be any different.

                Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said

                And they’re getting second Trump presidency. Good job riding that high horse. 👍

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                  It’s not a high horse, because I voted for Kamala Harris. But as someone who actually goes here, I knew this was going to be the exact outcome, because this high minded “vote for Trump to save democracy” is what got us in this mess in the first place. It happened in exactly like this 2016, and the Dem’s didn’t learn.

                  Sure, we can blame the electorate, I’m all for it. But saying that it’s SOLELY the electorate’s fault when the DNC has been trotting out milquetoast candidates one after the other is so disingenuous. Americans keep saying they don’t want two right wing candidates, but no one is listening.

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          116 months ago

          For real, all these people blaming democrats for not winning when billionaires were literally buying votes to not be taxed by democrats. Seems like a campaign.

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            Well, if anything it proves that Unions work. Unions of billionaire media moguls especially. Many (soft, wealthy) hands coming together, to push in collectively towards a common goal of eliminating the National Labor Relations Board, the EPA, the SEC, and the IRS… it’s kind of beautiful, in its way. (/s)

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      I disagree. At the risk of oversimplifying, American voters tend to respect strength of conviction, even if they don’t always agree with the policy, over milquetoast candidates. That’s why Sanders attracted so many voters who went on to vote for the other party’s candidate in the general election. Democrats need to decide what they believe in, and say it long, loud, and proud.

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        They did seem quite unsure of what their values should be. I think thats a negative for some people that a persons values seem to change to match the audience. The pre-planned replies didnt help either. Kept hearing the same points almost to a word.

        Why’s it so hard to speak like a human being for the democrats? Make fun of trump all we want, his McDonalds video was not a bad look, it was personable.

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          I just typed another reply to the effect that Democrats can’t express strong values because of the inherent contradiction of being a corporatist party trying to appeal to workers for votes. I would add that it’s not only a bad look, but a bad political tactic: If you don’t state your values, your opponents are more than happy to fill in the blanks with whatever batshit nonsense serves their purpose.

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      26 months ago

      Well, there isn’t going to be a Palestine in not too much longer after Bibi ethnically cleanses it and annexes it to Greater Israel.

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        That was one example. It easily could’ve been access to abortion, recreational marijuana, affirmative action or any other issue.

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    It’s totally crazy to me that Trump and crew are planning who to use the full power of the United States to murder and the Democratic Party is trying to figure out who to blame for it.

    We need them to fight or what good are they?

  • @[email protected]
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    266 months ago

    What’s the thing that will send you websites at a set date in the future? Wanna take bets and look at this 4 years from now to the day?

    • Robust Mirror
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      76 months ago

      No idea but just use email schedule send to yourself. No need to rely on something that might stop working then, unless you use some dodgy email that’s likely to close down.

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    226 months ago

    TBH I’d be afraid of them learning anything with headlines telling them to blame Palestine supporters and Minorities.