I lose no sleep downloading and pirating from these piece of shit companies.
I’ll check a stream first. If it’s not on something I have, I stream it a different way
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not if you raise the black flag
Shh, you trying to get c/technology banned from lemmy.world?
I did that many years ago and the fact that all content is in one place instead of multiple apps is so nice.
It’s like if streaming platforms were good.
I miss the early days of Netflix when that held true too. If I remember right piracy was down too. But everyone wanted a piece of the stupid pie and we’re back to where we started all over again
I think that’s what they mean. They sail the high seas and put all the booty in one place, like a Plex media server.
Yeah, I was agreeing and relating it to the good ol days when pirating for a one asp experience wasn’t needed unless you really wanted to.
Now we’re back to that’s the only way to easily get it all in one place is pirating. Apple TV seems to sort of have that ability but it’s not seamless because it takes you to whatever app the video is on, which still means you have to pay for all the streams.
Plex and Google TV also work similarly, universal search that then opens the streaming app
I’m just back to buying Blu rays. To me it’s the safer option, you legally own your product and you can host everything you want yourself still. MakeMKV is a great tool.
I check em out from the library
If they would just fix their damn offline downloads on the app…
I’m not sure how the movie and tv industries didn’t see what happened with music to replicate the model… every service has pretty much everything, and consumers can simply pick their service based on features and indigestions, not exclusive content. They were blinded by greed and deserve to fail. When they are competing against free, they really need to make sure their service feels premium and easy to use, they failed miserably at this.
This comment should be at the top. We have a similar industry that has at least figured out a model giving enough value that listeners are willing to pay. Why not video? We also had a brief golden age of streaming video where Netflix showed how it could be. Why not now? We’re in the middle of a huge industry change where people are dropping cable after so many years of abuse. Why can’t they learn?
We can’t blame the companies completely, Netflix was having to much power and profits. Spotify for instance is still at a lose, and so are a lot of music streaming services. Netflix was very comfortable and starting to make their own content, promoting that content and not sharing the data with the studio’s.
Secondly consumers are not the smartest bunch and signed up immediately when HBO and Disney+ came to the market, not understanding that it was at introduction price to lure people away from other streaming services.
So people had the chance to have a more centralised streaming platform for tv or film, but some like to brag that they watched it already some weeks before anybody else. Plus most countries had a lockdown, so people needed entertainment.
In private hands this cannot work anyways IMO. We need to force an interoperable standard if we want to stop companies from screwing everyone over just to make a line go up.
Even when we had a few streaming services, we’d end up pirating some stuff that was available because we incorrectly assumed it wasn’t on one of them and it’s just too annoying to have to look up where something is every time.
So we’d tend to go the piracy route first if we were seeking something out and only use the streaming services if we knew off the top of our heads where something was.
Piracy is now easier than ever when you use torrent streaming clients.
Usenet is even easier with more reliable quality. Strong recommend.
Most don’t like usenet since it cost money, but you’re absolutely right, usenet is the best way. It’s what I’ve been using for over a decade now lol
For the cost of one streaming subscription I’ve got all content, downloads at full speed and is private. Can’t imagine life without Usenet and sonarr/radarr now
I need a tutorial on this
This is the one I used years ago: https://blog.harveydelaney.com/configuring-your-usenet-provider-and-indexer-with-sonarr-radarr/
The nuts and bolts should be the same. I imagine his recommendations on what backbones and newsgroups to subscribe to are out of date, though.
Get yourself a nice newsgroup, and an nzb indexer(search site for newsgroups) . Install nzbget, sonarr and radarr and Google for the parts you get stuck on.
I recommend a 2nd newsgroup subscription at a different place, because (in layman’s terms) to appease the dmca strikes they delete a single file of the download, and chances are a different server deleted a different file, so your downloads are complete enough to parse the rest together.
Sounds mildly wonky and technical, my curiosity is piqued.
Can this be traced by the police or other state agencies? Or is this truly anonymous?
My Plex Server is a bastion of hope. I’m not paying for another streaming service ever again.
How is this different to using stremio?
I’ve been a Plex user for over a decade now. I’m not impressed with the direction they’re taking, but the alternatives aren’t quite there yet in terms of polish. I hope that by the time they fuck it all up there’ll be a better solution to switch to.
I’ve used Plex off and on for a few years, getting more into it as streaming prices have been rising. What direction are they taking that you don’t particularly like? I’ve also seen Kodi - which I’m intrigued by. Any thoughts there?
No problem. When Plex turns into complete shit or collapses jellyfin will be ready to take the reins.
Are you talking about plex media server for local files? If you are still looking for polished alternative check jellyfin. It is amazing
If not for live sports. That’s the only reason I’ve had “cable” off and on for the last decade
yarr harr fiddle-dee-dee
being a pirate is alright with me
Do what you whant cuz a pirate is free
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I hear Plex has a lovely, sleek interface once you turn off certain unneeded bells & whistles.
idk tho
What bells and whistles should one turn off - our server wouldn’t mind a facelift
I second this
I’ve heard tell that at the account level, individual users can turn off things like free movies & TV series, enhanced search results and all that to get a cleaner experience.
I the web UI, mouse over your avatar, go to account settings, and disable pretty much everything under ‘online media sources’. Enjoy the pure, clean Plex experience. Just see what the server offers, no more, no less.
I think what a lot of people forget is that what Streaming did was allow you to watch what you want when you wanted it. No need to TiVO it and worry about space. No need to pay a separate fee for OnDemand. Now I can choose to watch 6 seasons of a show day in and day out at the time I want.
It was inevitable that they would start to package streaming services together. It’s still better than old school cable. There’s always the High Seas for those that have the technical chops necessary for that.
Unfortunately, they’re trying to push a variation of on-demand again. Last night my kid saw a movie he wanted to watch”for only $3”. It kept showing him the only choice was to rent it …. Until I pointed him to another service we already subscribe to
Considering the amount of “yarrrr” in this thread I’ll probably get stabbed for this take, but: shows/movies take time and money to create, and running these services isn’t free either. Is $15 really impossible to pay when you want to watch a show?
Cable doesn’t answer the problem of “I want to see [insert show] from start to finish, starting right now”, so it’s worthless as a service for most(?) people. As such, I feel like cable should be forgotten as a point of comparison - it’s a different and much more limited type of service.
Let’s say I have no streaming subs running right now. I feel like I want to check out [insert show]. I find out which service has it, and buy a month of [service] for like $15.
I watch the whole show. Now I also have the rest of the library to check out for the rest of the month. Maybe I find a couple of other movies/shows from the service, maybe not. It still cost me a whopping $15 to watch a full show, and I also now have temporary access to a practically random selection of shows (“random” = depending on whatever service I ended up buying).
Sure if it’s a long show it can take multiple months to view it, but I still feel like the cost is minimal compared to what I get. Nobody is asking you to pay for all of the different streaming services every month.
I’m using a show as an example - but if we’re talking about buying a month ($15) just to watch a single movie, I do agree that it can feel a bit expensive. But in most cases you can find a few other movies that you can check out during the next month. If you’d want to buy a single movie digitally, they often cost like $10-15 per movie anyway - might as well buy a month of sub at that point.
Sure, I’ll also be happier if stuff stays cheap, but anyway. The usual works here: if you don’t feel like a service is worth its cost, don’t buy it.
It’s not like there’s lack of entertainment in today’s world - some free, some filled with ads, some cheap, some expensive. Pick your poison, I guess.
Nah, you’re not wrong. The article is just ridiculous for most people and if it was true then pirating would be the only way many people could even begin to see the content. As usual many people are reacting to the clickbait headline.
This is what I do. I canceled Netflix and got a special for a year of HBO for less than $100 if I recall correctly. So this year I have house of dragon, gilded age, Dr who, sopranos, and many random movies. It will take me a year to get through it.
But I want to watch Star Trek. So next year I will give up my current selection and become a Trekkie with paramount+. Maybe the following year I will want star wars and grab Disney+.
Really you don’t need ALL the shows ALL the time. In fact, forced variation can be nice for discovering shows you hadn’t considered when you run out of the one you were watching.
You’re in for a treat with all the new Trekkie series! I’m going through my Paramount+ Home base now and just watched for the first time, three newer series!
That money isn’t going to the Actors or Writers, it’s going to the production companies. Ya it costs money to create, but the creators aren’t getting paid.
Literally why most of Hollywood is striking right now. It amazes me the hoops people will jump through to convince themselves they aren’t being taken advantage of.
Companies will charge as much as elasticity will allow them. Customers will always find the best cost / benefit relationship to maximize their limited resources.
The new technologies will make entertainment creation a lot cheaper, we might see an important decline in prices in the next few years.
we might see an important decline in prices in the next few years.
Did you mean “an important rise in profits”?
I think you missed some of the points. Sure, a lot of us have no objection to paying $10-15/mon for a service to each lots of entertainment. I was more than happy to spend that on the Netflix of old.
Streaming music seems to have stuck with a model where I see value for my money and the artists get something (even if not enough). However streaming video services actively alienate their viewers by stretching the boundaries of how painful they can make it.
I suppose as long as I am not forced onto long term contracts, unwanted “tiers”, and excessive advertising, I’m good. I’ll keep with my two streaming services at a time and swap them out when they become too painful to use or I want to watch something elsewhere. Either way, I won’t cooperate with them rebuilding their cable tv monstrosity to extract ever more money and privacy out of their viewers while minimizing the content that brings us there
No I actually hope that industry becomes infeasible. I hope enough people get off their platforms so they go out of business. That industry needs a complete overhaul.
I live in Los Angeles and know a lot of people who work in the industry. The stories they tell are disgusting. Not only the business practices (which should be incredibly illegal), but the emotionally, physically, and sexually abusive atmospheres that are actively encouraged by the industry leaders.
I think at least for me it would be cheaper to rent or “buy” movies à la carte on YouTube and similar platforms than subscribing to that amount of services.
Remember when all those articles about ‘cord cutting’ was a thing. How streaming ushered in a new age.
So what’s this going to be called? Are people going to switch back to the cable? Are TiVo stocks about to go skyrocket? Or is pirating about to see an all time surge? Since storage has never been cheaper, VPNs are mainstream (you can’t watch YouTube without hearing about it), the number of applications to help facilitate it has never been more user friendly and plentiful, and internet speeds have only increased…
I mean, I know what a bunch of people here will do, but I mean the general public at large. Because it’s hard not to notice those price increases, especially if you have more than one service. Because their price increases (based on percent) is far out pacing the pay increase people are getting. I already cancelled my Netflix (due to policy changes even though they didn’t affect me, price increases, and their response to the writers strike).
The most retarded thing about streaming, is that it costs so much more in bandwidth and energy and hardware, like it’s not even funny.
When you broadcast, everybody watch the same thing at the same time, so the infrastructure COPIES information directly in their network.
When you stream, EVERY USER REQUIRES SERVERS TO SEND DATA OF A HD OR 4K VIDEO FILE.
THIS MEANS THAT A NETFLIX SERVER MUST MULTIPLY ITS BANDWIDTH BY THE NUMBER OF USERS. IN HIGH DEFINITION.
WHY AM I YELLING?
Oh nothing, it’s because the world is burning.
I only have 2 words in response to this: qBitTorrent, Jellyfin
unplug, unsubscribe, enjoy the silence
Well, to be fair they are counting streaming ad free versions against cable tvs ad ridden service. Not exactly apples to apples is it. I helped my brother move this weekend and they put Apollo 13 on for my mom to watch (on DIRECTTV Paramount channel). It was still on when we finished. Fucking unwatchable.
But yeah, streaming is starting to not look like such a bargain. And it’s going to get worse no doubt. But I quit cable, and I can quit streaming as well. Not sure I even need to pirate, plenty of other low cost entertainment options.
Torrents haven’t changed either
How is streaming more expensive than cable? Am I obligated to pay disney+ to see something on TV+?
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I upvoted for generally a good point but the comparable size bundle of goods does not really make sense here - no one will do that.
For me the most comparable bundles were:
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Cable TV with HD, 100mbps internet
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1gbps internet, with 2 streaming services
While from the cable perspective those do not represent the same thing, they are what I was willing to exchange for, and the second option is still significantly cheaper. I tether probably needs to be included because I needed more bandwidth to support streaming (although not that much more). I would not have considered option 2 with a bundle with the same “channels”: they are not equivalent value to me as a viewer
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This is basically an article bought and paid for by cable. Streaming is only expensive if you own everything. The benefit is you have far more options and control over the content you pay for. There is no “crash”. These services are all stable or growing still. Cable is still what is dying though the industry will try all it can to presume otherwise.
With cable do you still lease set top boxes? Or do they give those away for free now? Couldn’t tell if that was factored into the cost.
