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The people in the Southwest are just very forthright. They don’t say one thing and mean another.
I would say this is more true of the midatlantic/northeast. Very direct, say what they mean, it can come off as rude, or mean, but the subject outside of delivery, is not so.
After living in the southwest (born in LV, lived in PUMA, lived in Phoenix, lived in Prescot AZ, dad was stationed at edwards for a while too). I agree with this chart in a very superficial, this is a joke on the internet, way, honestly. Never met so many people who were just abrasive all around, than the SW. Hey, it’s been a lot of years though. There might have been a big cultural shift. Even if it hasn’t, I would take it over the “southern hospitality” mask of the SE, any day.
Maybe curmudgeonly is a better way of putting it. They say what they mean and they don’t feel like anyone is owed niceness or personal interaction. That doesn’t mean they hate you, they just don’t care about you and aren’t afraid to let you know.
Near as I can tell since moving back, being “Iowa nice” means “be white and republican and talk down to everyone else” so no, more like acts nice, is mean for us.
My experience having lived across the US has been closer to https://youtu.be/u3qJlWQNNxA?si=EU_dgGLT-vWgmNXy - I haven’t met a kind (“actually nice”) person in Northern California who grew up there.
Edit to add: err, except my wife of course.
I’ve done road trips to both Michigan and New York state. Other than some asshole driving in Michigan everyone I interacted with was very friendly.
As someone who used to live in new York, can confirm. New Yorkers come off as rude but usually they just have places to be, when they’re not trying to get somewhere they’re quite nice.
Alaska: Fuck off and leave us alone.
Hawaii: Get the fuck here and hang with us.
(Plz, we need money to ship things across half the pacific)
As a young Tulsan on my first tech support job, it took me ages to figure out that Yanks aren’t as mean as rattlesnakes, they just talk that way.
As a northerner who lived in Tulsa for four years, I’d say Oklahoma was “Acts nice, are crazy”
This map applies to every individual city as well, just make sure “acts mean is mean” is the rich quadrant of the city and the rest will map nicely.
That may be the “acts nice, calls the police on you because you’re on their neighborhood and don’t match the pantone”
Pretty much
I get that this is basically a politcal compass meme overlayed on a map (and also that this is in cartography anarchy), but here’s how I’d actually divide things up based on basically 0 practical experience:
Acts nice, is nice: West Coast (WA, OR, CA, HI) (WA might have to move down to the next category if they’re feeling surly)
Acts mean, is nice: Northeast (ME, NH, VT, MA, RI, CT, NY, PA, NJ, MD, DE)
Acts nice, is mean: Southeast (AR, LA, KY, TN, MS, AL, WV, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL), Midwest (ND, SD, NE, KS, MN, IA, MO, WI, IL, MI, IN, OH), and Alaska
Acts mean, is mean: The rest (ID, MT, WY, NV, UT, CO, AZ, NM, OK, TX)
“Acts nice, is mean” still makes up a large part of the country, but “Acts mean, is mean” has been trending up for about a decade now.
I think CA is act nice is mean. I lived there for 5 years and realized everyone was p. Passive aggressive.
Depends on where you are in the State. California is almost as tall as Europe, and the people are almost as varied.
And of course that only aims to divide things up into big blocks similar to the original image. If I wanted to get more granular I’d probably put UT in “Acts nice, is mean” for example.
Alaska belongs more in the “acts mean, is nice” category. But it’s less “mean” and more “apathetic and disinterested.”
I get the perception Cali can be prickly too, although I’ve never been there. Maybe orange for them too? And come to think of it, inland Oregon is very Idaho.
There’s assholes born everywhere, I guess.
I’ve colored it in as you described, at least I’m in one of the nice states
I forgot to color in the hawaii square, one sec (now fixed, apologies hawaii)
What’s this Hawaii place? Is it like that myth of New Zealand?
What is Washington in this graphic? Orange isn’t depicted in the original, and this doesn’t have a key.
Gonna save this for when I decide to visit.
Im a european, been to san francisco once, nicest fucking people ive ever met.
Fun fact the yellow corner has the most nazis
I feel like it needs to be qualified that the bottom half is mainly a white problem.
Ain’t no fucking way Indiana is in the “Nice” category
Or Utah
It’s called the middle finger of the south for a reason
Bruh, I moved out here two years ago, and holy shit! These are the most miserable, hateful, rude, nasty, violent, stupid, lazy, and just all-around shitty people I have encountered in my life. Really, damn near everywhere I go in this state, I observe this behavior. I’m originally from Michigan, but I’ve been all over the US and really have not been anywhere like this.
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Jeffersonville, Indiana can have Jefferson County, KY. They’re the same people you describe.
I saw more Confederate battle flags around Indianapolis than I did in Atlanta. Fuck Indianapolis.
I’m amazed by how consistently bad the reviews for Indiana are. Even the food is somehow worse than the rest of the Midwest, apparently.
Oh, yes, it is.
We went there during Thanksgiving, and my wife looked around for a place that was open on Thanksgiving and had a good special dinner offering. The city subreddit said this one diner was amazing, and it happened to be a few blocks from our hotel.
It was bland and came out lukewarm. It was, at best, OK. We went back there for breakfast, because sometimes those kind of diners are only good for breakfast, but that was also, at best, OK. I have no idea why the city subreddit was raving about it.
I’ll say this, when I move, I’ll miss getting a little cheese cup for my breadsticks. I’ll miss you Pizza King, but I won’t miss my shitty neighbors and oppressive infrastructure.
“The entire Midwest disliked that”
That’s different.
