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Would be hilarious if Musk buy that too.
I made an account yesterday to see how it is, however, I never used Twitter and so I don’t really understand how BlueSky works (since it suppose to be the same as Twitter?).
I followed 8 people and a couple of “#” but I barely see a thing of the people, I follow.
On Web and official app(android) there are two pages Discover and Following, by default you will be on “Discover” page. To see post from people you followed, you need to switch to the following page.
You can also search for “starter packs” of helpful people to follow in whatever you are interested in, e.g., history, cooking, overthrowing the government, etc.
Same boat my friend. Never ever had a xitter account but I made a Bluesky account last week to check things out. My husband deleted his Twitter account quite a while back and has been sorely missing seeing people he followed. I tried getting him here but he really doesn’t understand the whole set up. So I’m trying to convince him to join Bluesky. I have no idea what I’m doing over there but the folks there are much like we were here in the beginning in that everyone is helping each other learn. I do think that the platform will serve as a good bridge to get people learning about Federated platforms. We all have to start somewhere.
What’s Bluesky going to do to combat Russian bots and misinformation, and essentially keep it from becoming Twitter/X?
By not letting a Russian asset buy it
700,001
I just made a new account on BS, I haven’t done anything at all yet, no comments, likes, etc. Immediately followed by a woman with an OF link in her bio. Is that not against the rules? How did she find my account?
You’re just that hot 🔥
It’s a bot. It’s another DAMN bot. Many used to follow me on Tw###er before I made my account private. Though they were just random names and pictures of women (most of the time not sexual), and their profiles were basically empty. Before I figured it out, it was really weird to experience.
FWIW you can probably report that. While trying Bluesky, I reported some crappy stuff and I can’t remember any that was still up when I checked later.
How did she find my account?
Just like Mastodon/AP, data is mostly public by default. I assume it doesn’t take much to find new accounts to spam. We’re usually talking about bots here, not normal user accounts, just to be clear.
For a sense of perspective, Twitter has 106 million users in USA. 700 000 is 0.67% of that.
Twitter has 106 million users in USA.
Prove it
This is additional new users not total users. Growing by 0.67% of the user count of the largest microblogging platform in the world in a week is absolutely massive.
If it keeps going for a year, then it’ll truly be a large number (over 36 million to be precise). But if this was just a one-off protest kind of jumping the ship, then it’s not going to mean much.
I think the poster wants to say it means not that many in the US are leaving twitter or looking for alternatives, contrary to what the headline suggests.
Perhaps. Overall Bluesky is massive already tho. Twitter has something like 220 million users with Bluesky being around 14 million. Having 6% of the user count of Twitter is already beyond critical mass for the average user. People will be able to satisfy their microblogging itch on bluesky which means they wont go back. It has all the drama, porn and politics that twitter had.
Didn’t know it was that large yet, that’s pretty good! The point is whether 700k leaving twitter says anything about a trend. Bluesky could be twice the size of twitter without changing the point.
I will probably start using Bluesky and Mastodon shortly.
Also for a sense of perspective, Twitter is owned by a Trump salesman that lies about everything (including user numbers that affect ad revenue). I’ve seen Bluesky users mention that actual engagement with real people is already higher than Twitter. It definitely feels more “alive” to me as well.
Relevant video from PirateSoftware talking about the difference in engagement between them.
What aren’t they joining Mastodon and Lemmy? Or even Threads?
For me there weren’t enough people on Mastodon in my hobby to make it worthwhile.
I was on Mastodon, but host or whatever you call it, didn’t like what I said and got banned.
Feel like bluesky wouldn’t have that kind of power and control by one person and be more open and popular.
I think it’s the opposite. On Mastadon you can make a new account on a better server ie mods more aligned with you. On bluesky if you make a new account and say a similar bannable thing again you’ll be banned again.
But people are sensitive, rather not jump server to server because that 😅 something on equal terms like bluesky seems good.
Bluesky is a lot easier to use vs fediverse stuff, discovering stuff is also easier in my experience vs mastodon.
the problem is its easier to use because there is virtually no federation. Ive yet to see a user thats not from the flagship bsky.social instance
Maybe you’re already aware, but bluesky doesn’t operate with instances like in ActivityPub land.
I’ve seen many people I believe are using their own PDS, but yes, discoverability is likely better because a relay is meant to aggregate and share all data it can (look up “bluesky firehose”).
P.S. Mastodon’s devs are part of a new initiative to improve this area of the Fediverse. Because it’s so recent, we’ll have to wait to see how it goes.
I just opened BlueSky to see how many people I followed using their own PDS instance and the fourth post in my feed was from someone using one, and the 7th was from Washington Post who also uses their own.
I’ll use Bluesky before I use Threads. I don’t want to get sucked further into the Zuckerborg.
Mastodon or Lemmy, because you would have to choose an instance and a client. Threads, because why would you?
Choice is a good thing, though.
Choice is an irritating speed bump to people who don’t care to choose, which unfortunately is most of them.
It doesn’t need to be, as long as there is also a proper default for those who don’t care. Lemmy and Mastodon both unfortunately lacked this during the periods where they both had the most opportunity to grow.
Nowadays Mastodon does it pretty well. Users don’t need to know anything, they just download Mastodon from the app store and register on the instance it chooses by default.
agree, but for some reason many people don’t seem to think that way
What’s good for freedom is bad for ease of use.
Do not use threads
I’ve been stupidly trying to convince them to use Mastodon on the same thread on reddit yesterday.
Some prefer the interface, but I guess the real issue is what stopping them from selling it to another Musk like they did with Twitter.
Going from one shitty capitalist business to another shitty capitalist business.
I think this is the crowd that tried Mastodon and then abandoned it when they realized it required a modicum of effort.
Honestly I can’t figure out how to find people I’m interested in… or maybe there isn’t much academic/buddhism stuff on there? :/
Just search #buddhism
Not a lot of interest sadly :/ Guess I will try to make the content
You just search hashtags or set up a column so you have a feed giving you everything under a given hashtag, though it may be those communities are so niche there isn’t much on the Mastodon instance you chose. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a specific instance for Buddhism itself, though, given that it’s such a massive world religion.
Thanks for sharing! :)
Whatever will they do without algorithms recommending their low effort posts to other users?
People get what they deserve.
This smug attitude is why the fediverse will stay niche. People get jobs from twitter and Bluesky showing their posts to people. Its why im on the platforms as an artist. But sure lets talk shit at everyone who doesnt want to post to the void on mastodon.
Also your feed is chronological by default on bluesky and you can stay chronological and enable some posts from your custom feeds to show in your chronological feed. Best of both worlds
There’s a lot of artists selling stuff on Mastodon but I don’t think you can have a job as a mastodon influencer
Seriously, I’m so tired of this “we on Mastodon are the Eloi and they on Bluesky are the Morlocks” type bs, that kind of hostility to regular users makes me not want to be on the Fediverse at all.
It’s a problem in the open source community as a whole. People ask for it to be a little easier because they’re not super skilled with tech and then the reaction is “if your so dumb you cant use this then maybe you shouldnt use it” or something to that extent
Closely followed by surprisedpikachu.jpg when nobody’s using it
bluesky has a couple disability friendly features both mastodon and X don’t have.
I doubt this sort of attitude helps, too. Mastodon developers know at least some of its failings. Migrating to Bluesky is not effortless.
That’s probably fair. There’s an abundance of smug assholery in the world right now. Apologies.
Being complicated will keep the Facebook moms, and my casually racist uncle away.
Unfortunately a lot of our peers are also tech illiterate :(
wtf kind of lame criticism of mastodon is this…there are constantly cute pictures of pets being posted on mastodon… and like anywhere else with humans these posts are very popular on mastodon.
I would say these posts are MORE popular on mastodon because without an algorithm cute animal photos are going to stick out as popular even more.
This is all nonsense anyways, Bluesky is considered “cooler” by techy types with a childlike awareness of history, politics and power because the tech is cooler when considered in the abstract.
Coincidently none of these technical details have the capacity to make bluesky a truly open and free place otherwise those investors would sue bluesky for purposefully and willfully not pursuing profit for shareholders. This won’t stop certain types from pointing at pictures in the sand and reciting idle words thrown to the wind by the people in charge for now.
Bluesky exists as a legal instrument of profit, all else about bluesky is malleable and changeable and will eventually be bulldozed or undermined in the pursuit of profit for shareholders.
edit 2 this is a real human, and I was grumpy and while it was satisfying to point fingers it just makes me into the asshole so I removed that, but my broader point still stands
Seems the solution is just turning off replies
This man ran into the weirdos on Mastodon. I’m over there hanging out with people posting about ass-pennies and no one cries “content warning!” You’re the one who decides who you follow and who follows you. If your hanging out with folks too sensitive for your liking, that’s on you.
I don’t even know what Mastodon looks like and I don’t know who the guy is, but I’m just assuming he’s lying because it sounds like the usual “crazy pronoun libs” dog whistle.
What being too dependent on the algorithm does to a mf
I just learned that before their fundraising round Bluesky called themselves a “public benefit LLC” and I thought thats nice of them to benefit the public 😅 , then I found out about US corporate law and what it actually means…
It means that they are getting funds from the public, I’m guessing…
Sounds like a classic “To Serve Man” type of situation to me… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone)
I think I will avoid spoilers…
I signed up, out of curiosity but I don’t have any friends there that I know about. Kinda like Lemmy, but Lemmy but works great for not having friends.
Is this why the app is worthless trash? I just tried it and while scrolling through artists and trying to like posts to prime the algorithm the whole app will just stop responding. I can scroll but none of the buttons work. Can’t favorite, go back to home, anything until it suddenly does all the taps backlog at once.
Makes sense as it’s react native trash. I fucking hate that name. There is nothing native about react native it’s just web code garbage
Shakes fists at clouds
No, im a sysadmin that regularly hosts open source alternatives
I’ve got quite a few
https://short.kitsuna.net - url shortner
https://paste.kitsuna.net - pastebin
https://piped.kitsuna.net - yt front
https://pixiv.kitsuna.net - pixiv front
https://imgur.kitsuna.net - imgur proxy
https://search.kitsuna.net - whoogle
I used to have a matrix home server but ended up just using an existing one in the long run. I would actually love an alternative to Twitter, mastodon just never really took off. This looks really good but i legitimately have nothing but problems with bluesky app. It’s performance is horrendous and I’ve watched it be horrendous on other people’s phones so it’s not just mine.
To be a little bit more specific I can easily trigger the behavior by let’s say browsing a specific art tag and then attempting to favorite multiple posts in a row. After I favorite one or two it’ll suddenly lock up stop accepting input other than letting me continue to scroll and I have to wait until it processes whatever it’s processing and then all the inputs suddenly catch up at once
Bluesky was started by the same nazi who sold twitter to elon… I will not ever be using bluesky… Threads was started by the same nazi that owns facebook so I will not ever be using threads…
Dorsey left Bluesky precisely because the other people there felt they had to implement the old-Twitter-like checks and balances that caused him to leave Twitter in the first place. As such, it’s completely out of his influence.
Yes, it’s still one monolith waiting to be gobbled up by someone with a lot of cash, or to spiral down into what would seem to be almost inevitable enshittification, but it hasn’t done either of those yet, and both the good and bad there mean it’s the closest there is to old Twitter at the moment.
Please note that I’m not saying that everyone should go jump on there and use it, or even that we have to like it. Just pointing out that Dorsey has nothing to do with it any more.
Speaking of Dorsey, he went back to endorsing Twitter for a while, but now he’s
startedEdit: endorsing yet another platform called Nostr. Probably the better candidate for being avoided right now.I have no such “but actually” about Threads. Definitely worth avoiding, even if it is supposed to be able to Federate.
I thought you could federate with Bluesky, too.
Not directly. The underlying protocols are incompatible. You have to follow a bridging service which then causes your posts to be reposted on the other side by a bot pretending to be you.
Sounds a bit convoluted, if somewhat sinister - pretending to be you?? - but that’s basically how it works. And it won’t pretend to be anyone who doesn’t sign up, and will stop as soon as you unfollow, so the sinisterness, if any, is minimised.
For some reason I thought Nostr was started up by someone else and Dorsey just liked it
Frick, you’re right. Bit late now, but I’ll edit my previous comment.
Bluesky is popping off lately it feels even more lively and the block tools are great.
Sigh, here we go again. I jumped on board because it’s where my friends are. Was pleasantly surprised that most of my old twitter follows are already there. Still, given the history I’m being careful and ready for the next enshittification exodus.
I wish folks would just embrace self hosting and decentralization but we obviously love to make the same mistakes again, and again, and again…
History repeats itself. Stay on Mastodon
right now I consider my fediverse and self hosted stuff as my ‘real’ profile. bluesky falls into the same category as linkedin, a necessary evil for my ‘professional’ profile.
So no, I won’t be leaving mastodon (or lemmy).
Why not self-host your Bluesky personal data server?
that is the eventual plan.
Ok I get it
Decentralization is a bit like showing people “Here’s how to make friends. I won’t actually introduce you to anyone, though.” I kind of want to at least get a starting point off a general topic.
I feel you. I really hope things turn out this time around.
Soon Twitter will complete its transition to Nazi Bar of Social Media.
If there’s openly Nazis in your bar and they aren’t being kicked out, you’re in a Nazi bar. They completed that transition a while ago.
Impressive, since “network effects” are what keeps people on a platform. Why move off Xitter or FB when everyone’s on there, and not on the new place? Keep moving a significant fraction of a million people every week, and pretty soon, it’ll be where everyone is.
My partner, who is very non-technical, signed up for a BlueSky as well this week: “all the teacher blogs have declared that they are moving over”. Looks like everyone has had enough.
Go to Mastadon you tards
I use(d) Twitter for niche interactive hobbies that didn’t have enough people on Mastodon to engage with.
It has to start somewhere. Blue sky started from nothing too
I feel you, but Mastodon has about 9 million users and BlueSky has 15 million (if the first results from a search index are to be trusted), but I could not find anywhere even close to 60% of the people in this hobby on Mastodon as I have on BlueSky.
There was a very concentrated push recently of artists (I think it was artists originally) to go to BlueSky and it’s sort of echoed into similarish hobbies. So that’s probably why the user makeup is a little different.
Maybe on Bluesky they start with one person less calling them tards.
I’m not on mastadon either so fortunately, they get to avoid me on mastodon as well
The wonders of ActivityPub allow Mastodon users to interact with Lemmy, actually. Wild stuff.
My bad, I will try not to call them tards then.
