Summary
Elon Musk’s frequent presence at Mar-a-Lago and his involvement in sensitive conversations have raised concerns among Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.
Musk’s push for influence, including voicing policy ideas and taking credit for Trump’s win, has raised concerns about his motives and loyalty.
lol trying to fuck with the federal reserve. that didn’t take long
Looks like we’ll be bringing back Mooches as a measure of political tenure soon.
If it happens fast enough we can have an Elon as a smaller unit.
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I’m pretty sure a little over half of the conservatives hate Musk just as much as the left does. He painted himself as a victory factor when in reality he’s just a liability. Conservatives don’t like the reminder that Trump got less votes this time that in 2020, and I like to say Elon is why.
Elon almost certainly earned votes for Trump by
- Funding a shit ton of election ads
- Using Twitter to push propaganda
I begrudgingly have to concede and acknowledge that you are correct. That being said, he still did so indirectly as his name and ugly fucking face weren’t attached to those.
Elon Musk = Trump’s Rasputin?
People don’t understand, they both speak the same language. They’re both natural grifters… What’s more Musk is probably better at it than Trump was. Trump needed lessons from Roy Cohn, who was a ruthless, damaged, low empathy, closet homosexual and self-hater.
Musk didn’t need that kind of mentor, he’s a natural grifter, and my bet is that Trump is fascinated by him. They do similar things in different ways.
Only in certain scenarios would this blow up, and Musk has already bent the knee to Trump, so those scenarios are unlikely.
Musk is a friendly fellow grifter Trump can use, and has power over, which is what Trump likes.
At best we’ll see Musk become a fall guy for Trump’s shortcomings. But seeing as Trump may later die in office, Musk might also avoid such a fate. Only time will tell.
Based on the pictures Elon thinks he owns Trump. This is going to be fun.
Considering Trump’s ego all the people would have to do is start sharing #muskownsdonald on social media for him to kick him off the ticket
Wish we had our own troll farms
He’s an accelerationist. He knows the death of America is coming and wants to be sitting pretty, real close to the top when it happens; so he can use his money to become king.
Which is several layers of stupid, seriously most of the time when empires collapse the ones in power are either remains of the old bureaucracy or warlords. The rich are usually a non factor unless they already fit into one of the previous two situations. None of the billionaires have enough hard power to pull that off in the long term.
I’m hungry and Elon looks nice and plump.
Fucking gross.
I agree. We shouldn’t eat the rich. We should beat the rich. Repeatedly and for great lengths of time. Possibly with spiky objects. I’m sure we can beat the rich out of them if we keep at it long enough. It might take years and years, but if we just keep beating the rich…
Agreed, he probably has enough drugs in him that its ruined his flesh.
Dude literally thinks he’s Ozymandias from Watchmen. His entire existence is so fucking cringe.
He can’t pretend to save the world if the world isn’t ending.
Trump has a habit of burning everyone close to him the second it is either (A) useful to him or (B) they are no longer unswerving loyal to their fuhrer. Musk is a dumbshit nepobaby who can’t shut the fuck up and steals credit for everything he’s near that he didn’t ruin. It’s only a matter of time before Trump burns Musk, and all I can ask for is that it completely ruins them both.
It will only ruin Musk. Which would still be ok.
Musk is far richer than Trump could ever dream of being. Trump might be president, but Musk can use his money to get away with anything.
So it will be a fun fight to watch.
Let the infighting begin! Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic “vie for the king’s attention” atmosphere.
I wonder how many mooches he’ll last.
Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic “vie for the king’s attention” atmosphere.
Now thats a mutually assured destruction scenario I’d be in favor of.
Maybe we can help it along by stomaching a little tactical truth social posting
Donald “I have the record for the most people fired from a cabinet” Trump? He only hires the best people!
And the record most cabinet convictions
Yup! Weirdly Trump’s own worst qualities also tend to neuter his ability to deal damage somewhat (only somewhat! Goddamn is the man just a pandimensional wrecking ball). He attracts some of the very worst people, but then he chews through them for whatever purpose he had in mind for them, and then invariably even those people leave his orbit and go “wow everyone, that guy really is a piece of shit”. Pretty incredible stuff.
Similarly, his only actual ambition is personal greed, specifically his own wealth and fame. There’s no ideology or barely even planning in him I don’t think. Pretty sure his life is really best described as just the series of the nastiest, most self-serving moves he could think of at each moment along the way, with zero purpose except his own enrichment, both in dollars and fame/what he probably perceives as “power”.
Of course what he seems to see as power or something desirable, everyone not trapped in his S-tier narcissism distortion field sees as just him stating the terms of his own manipulation to whomever wants to take advantage, for mutual benefit. Right in the open. But sure, he’s the tough talker we need on the world stage, lol. Amazing. Sorry, just realized I have reached full tangent mode now, I regret nothing but I’ll end my rant heh.
This is all very true - I’m just hoping he hasn’t learned from last time about how to effect change in government. Unfortunately it seems like those around him are just more sycophantic than last time. One thing he has learned is “who is loyal” which could be a problem…
Yeah, I hear that. I do think his extreme narrow focus is a legitimate and severe neurodivergence, he’s not going to like…stop being that way, ever, to any degree. It’s how his mind is shaped I think, he doesn’t even enjoy music, laughter, actual human warmth, even just alcohol, all things broadly considered to be the most human things. There’s no room for anything but his bizarrely narrow drive.
Whether there are people in his orbit who have learned dangerous things is a more troubling question, one we can only really hope is tempered by his unique extreme toxicity (and hopefully in this case the massive inertia of all the many people in branches of govt who’ve made that their career and have a personal interest in the status quo).
Regardless of how many loyalists he has he’ll get in the way of himself along with some Republicans in the senate, Democrats using the filibuster and the right wing media will get him to change his mind. 2 years isn’t a lot to make all of these changes before the democrats at least take back the House
There’s precedent for it, that’s exactly the (thankfully moronic) dumb shit that happened the last time they had majorities like that. This feels different this time, with the Supreme Court and such, but who knows. Lotta self centered people imagining themselves on top…may amount to little. One can hope.
Trump is not someone who likes to share the stage.
I can’t really see 2 egos of that size coexisting. I’m terrified of being wrong about that in this case though
My coping fantasy plays off of their arrogance. Imagine it. On the day of Trump’s inauguration, he admits that climate change is real and shouts, “good luck, suckers,” as he and Musk board a SpaceX rocket bound for Mars.
A guy can dream. lol
And it explodes on the launchpad?
Let em both get eaten by Brontorocs.
And it explodes on the launchpad?
That is an acceptable outcome.
Is that dream too big?
I mean the King of All Cosmos has a codpiece the size of the moon, so I dunno if he’s really a good voice on the subject.
Still smaller than some King Henry VIII when you factor in relative sizes.
You don’t understand though, by being visionaries who disregard accepted margins of safety, they lowered the cost per (attempted) launch by almost 3%!
I like to imagine them running out of oxygen and food on Mars after weeks of nonstop arguing, expelling their final, hateful words at each other.
Either way, it’s like having a warm cup of tea under a blanket while I wait out the storm that is my mind.
Any trip to Mars is going to involve massive amounts of personal suffering and privation.
Minimum mission duration of 3 years. Living space no larger than a small RV. All the food is freeze dried. Can you imagine the smell that will develop? If anything breaks, it’s on you to fix it, and there is no trip down to the hardware store, and no United Rentals to bail you out. Any medical complication? There’s no ER, just whatever you’ve got in the kit.
And that’s not even starting on the chronic radiation hazard for which there is no viable option to deploy shielding. And a freak solar flare can cook you with acute radiation that will kill you at any time.
Seriously, we’re talking about an adventure that would be way more epic than Shackleton.
Honestly, I am opposed to sending humans to Mars, period. We shouldn’t do it. It’s unethical, a tremendous lapse of moral judgment just to stroke our collective egos.
There could be life on Mars NOW. There are bacteria that we know of on Earth, that if you transported them to certain locations deep under the Martian surface, would thrive. There are microbes that live in subterranean saline aquifers on Earth, and there are microbes that live in solid rock miles beneath the Earth’s surface. There is no reason that these bacteria couldn’t thrive equally well on Mars.
We know of Earth bacteria that could thrive under Mars’s surface. Which means it is entirely reasonable to speculate that there may already be bacteria there filling that Martian ecological niche. But if we send people there…we risk contaminating it. We struggle to sterilize our rovers, but we do a pretty good job. But forget trying to sterilize a ship full of dozens of people. Our very gut bacteria are a contamination risk.
No, I think we should leave Mars the hell alone. And really, I think we have a very reasonable path forward for still producing very meaningful and important exploration of Mars. Look at how well robotics is advancing. Look at the recent Tesla event where they had all those robots wandering around, each remotely piloted by a human operator. THAT is the real future of Mars exploration.
I think we should simply wait on Mars until we’ve let remote presence robotic tech advance a few more decades. Then, you build such a robot that is durable enough to survive in an autoclave. You do send human to Mars, but they stay in orbit. The humans stay on a craft in orbit, and they remotely pilot humanoid robots on the surface to do the actual science work. This way, you can have exploration that has all the dexterity and flexibility of humans, as humans are able to pilot the robots in real time from orbit. And as an added bonus, your exploratory vehicles can be a lot simpler as you don’t need to bring any crew or samples back from the Martian surface.
I think we could still exploit Mars as well. If we find that there is no surface life, well then setting up mining activities on the surface isn’t a problem. If humans want to colonize Mars, we can build big orbital habitats from materials we mine on the surface. If, after a long period of study, we conclusively rule out the existence of Martian life? Well at that point we can start surface colonization by humans. Or, perhaps we discover a Martian deep-rock biosphere and fully catalogue it. Then maybe we discover that pretty much every terrestrial body has such a biosphere if conditions are appropriate. At that point, humans might decide that colonizing the surface with humans is worth the risk.
Anyway, I really do not support sending humans to Mars. We could potentially wipe out an entire biosphere, a biosphere that if it exists, could tell us remarkable things about how life arises and how common it is in the universe. We’re only a few decades out from being able to do really good remote presence robotics. Let’s just hold off on things until we can send humans that can get the full experience of being on the Mars surface, without actually being on the Mars surface.
Did you watch this video by any chance? https://youtu.be/5GjOuqAlFEk?si=XGnBJThntonV2AHM
But I agree, these arguments won me over. We can just go to the moon or asteroids instead, mars is not that important for a hypothetical human space faring civilization
Yes. I have! Though I have heard the idea before.
Did you see Don’s face when Elon was doing his jumping shit? Don’s already sick of him, and only keeping him around because he’s worth so much.
Donny always needs about tree fitty.
“So I said, ‘monster, what are you gonna do with tree fitty?’”
“Lord it was scary!”
“Oh Lawd, they’d didn’t bring a sacrifice chile.”
They can’t get too close, or the masses of their egos will rip spacetime a new blackasshole.
The billionaire cosplayer feels inadequate next to the actual billionaire
who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting
… that’s one way to put it.
Over assertively impregnates employees as a hobby
Offers his sperm for colonizing Mars, aiming to upgrade said hobby
One can only hope.
They deserve each other.
