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I think this setting is reset on a phone reboot.
really should listen to this. I want to have normal hearing when I’m older.
I agree with the concern you’re raising, but most of the time I ran into it, I was using bluetooth to a radio that had its own volume control. The phone was just reacting to the volume setting, not listening and knowing it was too loud.
I haven’t seen that happen in a long time, though. I saw elsewhere in the thread there was a way to disable it, so I might have done that, but I don’t recall seeing it at all on the newer Samsung S24 I got early this year.
I mean im not demanding people to do it, but there’s a reason it’s a strong suggestion, also we are shitposting here so turn it up to 11 i guess
Me, listening to nothing but metal and hardcore for the past 12 years: Fuck off, phone!
meanwhile i wish mine would still warn me. sometimes i pop in my IEMs and then press play, and my phone is like “you were full volume with the bluetooth speaker, does this mean… you want the IEMs full blast, too?”
Mine warn me only when it’s purposeful. As you say, if I change output devices, and the sound is too loud, it says nothing. It literally only interferes with me doing something I’m purposefully choosing to do, and failing to protect me from shit I’m doing accidentally.
your phone doesnt change it back when you disconnect Bluetooth? that’s harsh.
This is the real issue. The same volume is totally different on different devices. If they want to implement this feature correctly they need to measure the actual output of the headphones.
I don’t think I’ve ever had a phone that does that. Is that an iPhone thing?
I get it on android. I’ve had it on LG, Samsung, and Sony phones
My android 6 tablet and my android 13 phone both do it when I have earphones in.
It’s a legal requirement in Europe I believe. I’m not sure we’ll get fewer deaf people that way. We’ll see.
I’ve been listening well above recommend levels for years, I’ve done work operating industrial machinery and my hearing tested among the best for my age. Just use hearing protection, and don’t go nuts on the volume.
Im the same as you. In my 50’s. My hearing is severely damaged, and my right ear whistles like a thousand sex-crazed crickets 24/7.
Not the same by the sound of it, my hearing is exceptional for my age and career path.
Sorry to hear your hearing has deteriorated to such a degree, I hope you’re able to tune it out/sleep through it.
I cope pretty well with it. Some people get really depressed when it happens to them. Im okay if there’s noise. At night I listen to podcasts and use a fan next to my bed. At work it’s less noticeable, although fir some reason people think it’s fine to be mean if a coworker can’t hear very well.
For me I had intermittent ringing for a year or two. It would always go away quickly. Then, one morning, I woke up with this much louder chirping sound that’s always there.
I was a metal head. Too many gigs and loud earbuds.
There’s an app for that: https://github.com/zacharee/Tweaker
You’ll need to use adb to grant special permissions that an app can’t request on its own.
adb shell pm grant com.zacharee1.systemuituner android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS adb shell pm grant com.zacharee1.systemuituner android.permission.PACKAGE_USAGE_STATS adb shell pm grant com.zacharee1.systemuituner android.permission.DUMP- Audio & Sound --> Disable Safe Audio Warning --> Disabled
- Persist Options --> Checkbox Disable Safe Audio Warning
This and the “Are you still listening” pause EVERY OTHER SONG on my playlist is just so helpful. Helpful, that is, if the intent is to give me a fucking aneurysm.
What are you using that does that? That’s annoying af.
It started recently on YouTube revanced. The only reason I’m still on YouTube at all is my 1500+ song playlist I’ve been curating for, i dunno, 14 years? Revanced and ublock kept me from hearing or seeing an ad for years, but this is really motivating me to just say fuck it and move on.
Oof, damn that’s painful to leave behind. The downfall of yt to a completely unusable platform has been awful. Newpipe might let you play without the reminders on mobile if you are interested in trying another app before you make tye leap to a new platform. I’d bet there is a tool on github that will export your playlists too. Sorry, not trying to fix everything I promise. A 14 year active playlist is an impressive thing though and I’d hate to see that lost.
What?!
It’s a Samsung “feature”. If you turn the volume up high enough, it warns you about hearing loss. Even if what you are listening to is super quiet so you have to turn it up to hear, and even if you are connected to a speaker.
Edit: Apparently it’s not just Samsung phones anymore, instead it is an Android 14 feature. And apparently some other OEMs have had a similar feature for a while.
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WHAT??! I can’t hear you!
Every device I’ve seen do this can only reach lower levels of volume than most of the ones that don’t (PCs, Walkmans, headphones with built-in radios…)
It’s like that “save electricity, unplug charger” popup that I only ever saw on phones with switching power supplies, whose zero-load power is several orders of magnitude less than the heavy transformer ones. Or the constantly-moving 🔇 icon on LCD TVs, although it takes many consecutive days of a static picture to burn them in as opposed to CRTs, plasma and OLED ones. Even then, shifting it by 1 pixel per minute would be enough and way less annoying.
What?
Dumbass phone has no idea what kind of headphones or devices i plugged into it and what other stuff i have connected in between. Stupid machine.
With the removal of the headphone jack, phones have lost the ability to not know what is plugged in. USB and Bluetooth devices have information that the phone could account for but chooses not to.
maybe it’s just not possible with the current (probably ancient to not break older devices) protocols
Nah its just analog signals, no protocol. There is no way for a phone to be aware of what analog audio device its connected to.
Phones don’t do it with USB audio devices which are digital devices with unique identification.
Its not the hardware, its the software.
You’re practically right but…
Since 3.5mm jacks with insertion leaf switches are larger, the audio chips instead check for approx. 32 Ω of impedance on the audio channels, or connection between the first two pins (MIC and GND), which doubles as button press detection (some phones, including every Samsung one, check for several resistance levels, allowing for separate ⏮⏭ buttons rather than just the multipurpose ⏯). This makes sure that (high-impedance) line-in devices whose plugs bridge the first 2 pins get detected (as a side effect, your headset with mic and 1 button will only show up with the micless icon if you hold the button while plugging it in).
Therefore, phones do detect line-level devices vs headphones or aux-in ones (or at least have hardware to do so) but other than perhaps some EQ and level adjuatment in the DAC, there is no effect.
My phone warns me I’ve been listening to music at a dangerous volume for a dangerous amount of time 100% of the time when I’m driving and listening via aux.
yeah lol, I’m often plugging in slightly high impedance headphones that it just can’t drive very well. it’s never seemed worth it run run a dac or get a special pair of phone headphones. i rarely use it that way anyway.
but yeah, pretty much every time i plug them in i have to confirm i want to hurt myself before it will allow them to be set to a useable volume.
and yes, i do still have a headphone jack, they are still out there if you’re willing to not get a super expensive phone.
I held on to the 3.5mm jack for so long but i just couldnt resist the fairphone anymore. I need my replaceable battery and ports and stuff. Changing a screen or usbc port in less than 10 minutes is just a gamechanger if anything ever breaks.
Mine just caps sound to a maximum safe level by default,
I can go in the settings to disable this but why would i?
Hearing damage is no joke, and as a music lover it’s one of my worst fears.
I am not sure how it measures how loud the volume is but i have yet to experience the maximum not being loud enough.
If you’re connected to a device that has independent volume management, then you can max out the phone volume and still have it be too quiet.
I most often run into this with my speaker setup in my workout room if I forget to turn up the volume on the receiver before hopping on the treadmill.
But, the other reason to not go too high is the audio can start degrading if the volume is too high on your phone.
I have a USB-C to audio jack adapter/sound card, which doesn’t provide enough amplification for my headphones at “normal” levels, so I have to raise it beyond what android considers “save” in order to even hear voices enough to understand them, if the environment around me is a bit noisy itself. At maximum level it is still not really loud.
I just learned about the setting in this post and I’m happy to have it. My work truck doesn’t have Bluetooth so I have a really shitty Bluetooth to radio converter. It’s often way too quiet.
You’re dependent upon the recording you’re listening to having been set to a decent volume to begin with. I will occasionally come across videos or music with significantly quieter sound than usual. I know what a good volume for my need at the moment is, while this warning is a dumb automatic pop-up based solely upon the single factor of the master device volume control setting - without any consideration for the actual decibels being output.
If you have your own music collection, I can really recommend normalising everything to a LUFS value of your choosing. (A common value is -14 LUFS for most streaming services Source)
Note there are two types of normalising, dynamic and linear. Linear is what you want as it’ll only move the average loudness to your target, preserving the difference between the quietest and loudest parts. Dynamic normalization squashes the quietest and loudest parts into a narrower range.
Like that stupid ass notification ‘internet disabled for this appliation. Go to settings to re enable it. Press ok to continue’. I know, i’m the one who disabled it in the first place, get lost.
Nobody is saying nothing, so everybody is saying something, or at least that’s what is sounds like with tinnitus.
