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And where are their arms and legs?
amputee representation. don’t make it weird.
They didn’t keep them inside the car at all times.
According to transit and transport regulation, such scenario would be impossible
For some people, this is a problem. For others, this is a solution.
Tit. For. Tat.
pull my gun, kill the other person and move the lever, as far i can know that person is the one this whole thing upfamily up
Jokes on you, No loved ones, so who cares if you pull the lever or not, go have a frothy instead.
Which relative is on the track and which in the trolley?
Your hot cousin is on the track. What would you do?
Don’t pull the lever, then there’s three thirds of hot cousin to go around regardless of the other person’s decision. Philosophy is easy.
Easy there Solomon
cut the trolley in half, give one half to each of the thirds of the hot cousin
Split the track in half, and ramp up one side, causing the trolley to drive on two wheels, effectively only slicing the legs off of your loved ones.
It says loved ones I’m afraid, can’t sacrifice one in prison I’m afraid.
Theoretically, will a collision cause a breach of the radioactive material that’s in the box with my cat? Asking for a friend.
Yes and no.
If cat can witness the event, then Yes or No but not both.
Give the loved ones guns
I think these scenarios might be easier to analyze if we made them a bit more realistic.
This an analogy for military intervention. If we empower our military to be proactive, we can save one "good guy"TM by killing 3 bystanders. But if NATO’s adversaries are participating too we lose 3 of our "good guy"TM
I think the abstract nature is one of the strengths. If you ask someone a question about military intervention, their pre-existing views towards military intervention will heavily bias their answer.
Yeah that’s a good point. Maybe I should amend my statement to say something like:
If this seems like an absurd hypothetical, consider reframing it. Multiply all the numbers by a factor of between 1,000 to 1,000,000 and make them “our soldiers”, “bystanders” and “enemy soldiers” respectively.
its also a good metaphor for climate change
Look at the actual Cuban Missile Crisis.
Please learn how to draw basic sketches of railway switches. It’s not that hard.
Philosphers really just go “imagine how fucked up it would be if…” and then take it incredibly seriously
Questions: why doesn’t the person at the switch run and get the person off the tracks? And the people on the trolley hop off or try to the sslow the trolley?
They are tied to their chair with the only thing they can do being flipping the lever. It is the prisoner’s trolley problem
something something about conservation of momentum, them jumping off speeds up the trolley
Not if they jump from the front of the trolley
I’m assuming they’ll try to miss the cow catcher but I get that’s not a fair assumption to make all the time
I think this exposes the sadism of philosophy the past few hundred years.
Often, it’s been some rich idle folks making up murderous fantasies in their heads while looking down at my ancestors . “Oh, you don’t know page 273 of Aristotle’s rejoinder? Haha, you must be too poor”.
What do I do? I introduce myself to the other person, then we go out for drinks, then we fuck all night.
We no longer give a shit about the assholes on the tracks.
mercifully pulling both levers.
But then how do you kill the remaining two people?
Survivor’s guilt