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This is the last antitrust win we’ll get for years, isn’t it?
I know Trump doesn’t like Big Tech, but I doubt his admin will punish them meaningfully, but just rail about censorship.
This isn’t a win I think. They are yet to meet in the court with Google.
The DOJ will file a revised version of its proposals in early March, before the government and Google return to the DC District Court in April for a two-week remedies trial.
I keep saying this. In 2 months all this antitrust stuff goes out the window. If people actually bothered to show up on 11/5 Kahn and co could actually get some wins for the American people. Instead, we’re going to get more monopolies shoved down our throats.
Microshit treatment incoming IMHO
People larp these headlines too much
Our govt is pay for play at this point, I struggle to see anything like this going through, especially so close to a new AG appointment.
Sounds like they are preparing for this by killing off ChromeOS
https://www.androidauthority.com/chrome-os-becoming-android-3500661/
Another thing to add to the google graveyard.
It says they are doing it to compete with iPad. Weird. Aren’t tablets sales across all brands constantly declining?
Android is also on the chopping block
Yeah, see all this stuff happening between now and inauguration day. See, we did something. Too little, too late. If there are ever free and fair elections in this country, and the Democrats return to power, they better get their fucking shit together. The dismantling of the Federal government will be almost impossible to reverse.
Like someone commented in another fediverse community: this court case can really only keep going for two more months, after that it’s anyone’s guess what will happen to the court: Alphabet could bribe someone in the DOJ to make the case disappear or (and this is the funny one) law and order could breakdown completely, rendering the case, the court and all the rest of society moot.
Who would buy this and how would they monetize it? In browser ads? A freemium paid model to remove the ads?
I’ll bid $3.50 just to GPL it.
https://www.chromium.org/chromium-projects/
It’s already under BSD license
Sure, but GPL would prevent the Chrome tracking addons and other pleasant closed-source paraphernalia (the difference between Chrome and Chromium)
Isn’t the BSD licence more open though?
BSD is more open towards being closed.
sell it to Microsoft so they can finally have a web browser that people use
Yes, the anti-trust lawsuit should culminate in one part of a tech giant being sold to another tech giant.
what else would happen
Microsoft run Chrome clone? But they already have Edge
Which no one willingly uses
I use it and love it tbh
You need to get out more
Like what?
How fucking dare you have an opinion!
Unless you’re at a company using Microsoft services, where you have no choice, other than chrome (at my company), which hot take, is worse than edge.
it was good at launch, but they’ve added so much bloat
Never again
Imagine where the software industry would be without all the lost productivity because of MSIE quirks.
Just…please for the love of whatever diety do Microsoft. Fucking sick of their shit recently with One Drive.
All mega corps but it won’t happen
What changed with OneDrive? I’m genuinely interested because I’m a user and haven’t noticed anything.
On corp side and personal if you don’t have One Drive setup MS will spam notifications to set it up, and when you go to save will try to default to One Drive as opposed to local.
Microsoft is waaay easier to avoid than fucking google. Is one drive that annoying?
Do you have a few minutes to learn about our lord and savior Linux?
Man the Linux propaganda is STRONG on Lemmy. I’ll say what I’ve said before: I use my computer for gaming, web browsing, and managing a media server for my family that hosts pictures and other things. If those 3 things can be done easily without issue on a Linux distro without having to fuck around with configs every time I want to do something, I’m all in. By what I’ve heard though it’s just not there yet. I am super happy Steam decided to go Linux for their Steamdeck though as I’ve heard thats helped make monumental strides the right direction. Trust me, I want to. Large part of it is I worked tech support for over a decade and having to troubleshoot my own shit is like the furthest thing I want to deal with haha
If you can live without games having invasive anticheat, then everything should be doable, and probably a lot easier than in Windows.
Yeah not really into multiplayer competitive games. Indo play a lot of co op though. Will have to find a list somewhere.
Proton DB is the place to go. But I don’t check 99% of games I play, unless it’s going to be an expensive purchase and I want to check before I buy. I also don’t bother with people’s suggested tweaks on proton db unless I actually personally experience issues. The only game I’ve had to tweak so far has been cyberpunk 2077.
Edit: added context, I’m on 2 monitors and one of them is an ultrawide. Never had any issues that aren’t similar to issues I’ve experienced on Windows in the past.
Okay awesome thank you!
You owe it to yourself to try it out! I recommend dual booting into Linux Mint Cinnamon for a while and have your windows install to fall back on to. That or one of the gaming-specific distributions, but from what I’ve seen Mint does all with gaming too. It’s a good all-around starting place, and there are a lot of resources because it’s popular and built off of the most popular distro. I installed it on my work machine (software engineering) and I’ve felt no lack of capability or a need to switch to a more “hardcore” distro.
Thanks! Appreciate the type up and suggestion. I’ll add it to my list of ones to try out.
Just going to say, I do those things too, on Linux, and while I can’t say I never have to mess with config files, it’s not frequent. And, the computer acting like it’s my computer rather than on loan from a megacorp is nice.
It’s not all the way there yet but it’s so very close and the bits that are still pain points aren’t nearly as bad as the pain points of Windows.
As the other commenter said, you should give it a serious try. Mint is very smooth overall.
Appreciate it! Thank you!
Hey I will give my anecdotal recent experience. Several months ago I switched to Pop! OS and have had basically no issues. I have an Nvidia GPU and I play a lot of games. I don’t play any games that are blocked by anti cheat (not because I can’t, I just don’t happen to play the few that are blocked).
I spent the first day getting everything signed in, installed, set up and tweaked to how I like it with very minimal terminal usage. Mostly gui and clicking.
Steam+Proton along with lutris makes it easy to play any game for me.
Side note: I have 4 monitors of varying resolution, size, orientation and refresh rate and it hasn’t caused problems other than the initial setup (I used cursr to help with this)
Oh God I didn’t even think about monitors. I only have one but it’s the stupid big ultra wide by Samsung. I honestly play most games in windowed. Wondering if there’s resolution support on the actual os though. The rest is like…5120 x something.
One monitor will be fine no matter the resolution.
Sell it to me, I’ll buy it for one dollar.
I’ll go treefitty
Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Kent Walker, says the DOJ is pushing “a radical interventionist agenda that would harm Americans and America’s global technology leadership.”
I’m honestly curious how this would “harm Americans”.
How does chrome make money? It uses ads from Google, chrome on it’s own is not a business.
Say you buy chrome, you have to options
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Ads built into chrome itself (when you’re in the settings menu, homepage, reading a PDF, playing the dino game)
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Force your own default search engine, or get a company like Google or Bing to pay you for the privilege of being a default search engine.
Neither of these options are better than the status quo
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That statement is technically true.
The billionaire owners are Americans.
The corporations are people too!
Everyone really does need to have that at the forefront of their mind. When the C-suit, wall street, and politicians talk about “Americans” they aren’t talking about us schlubs.
I refuse to call any Billionaires Americans. A billionaire in America has far more in common with a billionaire in Ireland or France than with working class Americans. They don’t use our schools, drink our water, drive our roads, or rely on our safety nets. They don’t take out the trash, do their laundry, wait 6 months for a doctor’s appointment, or stress over defunding their retirement to pay for needed medication.
Billionaire involvement in politics should be considered foreign interference. Of course AIPAC is foreign interference too, but apparently that’s not a problem either.
Google pretending they have any other nationality other then “the global internet” is cute in a disgusting way.
Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer sounds like Donald Trump
I fear this is exactly who they’re courting.
…a radical interventionist agenda…
That language seems very “Trump-esque”, and I doubt it is a coincidence.
The same ruling would ban Google from paying other browsers to make Google the default search engine.
This would kill Firefox and make Chromium the only browser engine that’s left.It would leave the newly-split-off chrome in the same financial situation as firefox. Arguably a worse one.
That’s really sad…
It harms wealthy asshole Americans at Google.
People wondering what Chrome has to do with a search monopoly:
The obvious benefit is that they can default the user’s search provider to Google.
But the more nefarious benefit is that, by controlling both the client and server, they can unilaterally decide the future of web standards. They don’t have to advocate for proposals, gain consensus, and limit themselves to well-supported standards the way other companies do. They can just do it, gain the first-mover advantage, and force others to follow suit.
If they don’t like HTTP/2, they can invent their own protocol and implement it for their search servers and Chrome. Suddenly, using Chrome with Google Search is way faster than using Chrome with Bing or using Firefox with Google Search. Even if Microsoft and Mozilla don’t like the protocol, they now have to adopt it or fall behind.
This has happened. QUIC was deployed in 2012. Firefox gained support in 2021.
They’re doing the same thing with Privacy Sandbox, and you can also look at browser feature compatibility tables to see how eager Google is to force their own interpretation of every not-yet-finalized web standard as the canonical interpretation.
Hot take: they sell Chrome but keep Chromium.
How would that work exactly? Google would sell Chrome but keep paying teams if developers to work on Chromium?
Basically. I mean look at Edge, it’s running Chromium under the hood, but the UI is developed by Microsoft.
Seeing how tech illiterate some of these people are, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ends up happening
Why is everyone acting like this is a thing that will happen? All they have to do is wait roughly 90 days and it’ll all go away.
If they’re allowed to choose who they sell it to this won’t change anything
I think they should sell it to me.
4 $ Final Offer
Too much for me, I’m out 🏳️
Sell it to Mozilla so they can make it uninstall itself and install Firefox instead in the next update
ABOUT FUCKING TIME!
What company could actually afford to buy it other than Google, Meta, or Amazon? Unless they are forced to sell it at a loss, which is fine with me.
Oracle, sun, tencent, tita…
Broadcom
Elon Musk
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The judge would immediately shut that down for creative avoidance. This is an order to sell, not break up. The DOJ specifically indicated behavioural remedies in this case, meaning Google must not remain in control of Chrome.
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Don’t ya love it when people comment saying something that they think must be true as if it were actually true, without having the slightest idea?
How exactly is this company going to make any money?
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