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Summary
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.
The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.
Hamas also criticized the decision.
The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.
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Kudos to the ICC and make sure they are cell mates. Damn shame it will not happen.
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.
However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a “reverse confirmation” of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it’s actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism
That’s the definition they use, so anything you say against the State they see as being against the ethnicity, which doesn’t make sense.
TLDR: it’s not antisemitic, it’s just anti-Bibi.
It’s like how if some random dipshit harms someone else they go “Oh, so it’s okay to hate men? I’m a man so I’m the bad guy?”
When no, you’re the one who assalted someone. What you are doesn’t define actions.
Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.
The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.
“Chef overcooked my burger. Antisemite.” -Uncle Leo -Jerry Seinfeld
What region-specific component are you referring to? I’m genuinely asking, not being argumentative. I completely agree that holding Netanyahu accountable for war crimes is not antisemitism, let alone the ICC charging leaders on both sides of the conflict.
I am looking at it from a more abstract, generic perspective.
When you lose the right to freely travel, work, live in your country. There is going to be a lot of animosity around this. I don’t think it is fair to purely attribute this to a discriminatory attitude.
It’s the local variant of fake news.
As a Jew, I’m becoming desensitized to the word “antisemitic.” Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can’t explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond “Hamas wants to kill us.”
“You can’t cry wolf and BE the wolves. Do you not understand what the villagers do to wolves?”
the Palestinians did not get to choose the ethnicity of their oppressors.
The brits? The ottomans?
And most recently, the Israeli government.
I wonder where this vehement outrage was when the iraquis and turks kill kurds 🙃or when uighurs ger marched to camps. Are you seriously trying to make the case that it has nothing to do with antisemitism?
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
I wasn’t aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.
Finally… it was about time!
They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.
It goes waaaay back
https://www.972mag.com/icc-israel-surveillance-investigation/
Good news
Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.
He first needs to come out of Israel to visit a country that recognizes the ICC…
And then the country still needs to actually arrest him. Am I right, Mongolia?
Mongolia is landlocked between Putin’s country and China. Not arresting him was the same as a cop deciding that maybe they shouldn’t arrest a mafia don on their own, while surrounded by the gang.
This is a tad bit different.
He is not Putler though. Israelis may be war criminals as much as Russians are but their strength to influence other states decision is somewhat limited. Apart from the USA of course which for some reason appears to be Israeli puppet.
Bingo
This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.
Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.
Make no mistake, this war is the culmination of multiple decades of extremist Israeli and Palestinian politics in which the worst possible human beings on both sides were propped up by a populace that has been blinded by decades of hate for the other.
This is what Netanyahu and Hamas have always wanted, and what they were always working towards.
Zionism is a fascist settler colonialist ideology that has always been set on the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Anti-colonialist resistance for liberation and peace is not equivalent to Colonialist supremacy
Ethnic Cleansing is fundamental to Zionism
Zionism’s aims in Palestine, its deeply-held conviction that the Land of Israel belonged exclusively to the Jewish people as a whole, and the idea of Palestine’s “civilizational barrenness" or “emptiness” against the background of European imperialist ideologies all converged in the logical conclusion that the native population should make way for thenewcomers.
The idea that the Palestinian Arabs must find a place for themselves elsewhere was articulated early on. Indeed, the founder of the movement, Theodor Herzl, provided an early reference to transfer even before he formally outlined his theory of Zionist rebirth in his Judenstat.
An 1895 entry in his diary provides in embryonic form many of the elements that were to be demonstrated repeatedly in the Zionist quest for solutions to the “Arab problem ”-the idea of dealing with state governments over the heads of the indigenous population, Jewish acquisition of property that would be inalienable, “Hebrew Land" and “Hebrew Labor,” and the removal of the native population.
Settlements and Occupation
Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.
This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.
- The Transfer Committee, and the JNF Ethnic Cleansing, which led to Forced Displacement of 100,000 Palestinians throughout the mandate before the Nakba
The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:
Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:
While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements
The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.
The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.
Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing
Peace Process and Solution
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Historian Works on the History
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Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History - Nur Masalha
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The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 - Nur Masalha
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A History of Modern Palestine - Ilan Pappe
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The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine - Rashid Khalidi
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The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - Ilan Pappe
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The 1967 Arab-Israeli War: Origins and Consequences - Avi Shlaim
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The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories - Ilan Pappe
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The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-development - Sara Roy
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10 Myths About Israel - Ilan Pappe (summery)
You would be surprised!
You don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
You have no idea what you are talking about!
As someone living in Israel, that’s a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not “a few bad apples”, Israel is a fundamentally rotten “nation” that only exists on genocide and war.
I’ve heard that it’s quite jarring to be living in Israel as someone who’s progressive. Like, it’s not just about state suppression of protests, but the levels of social condemnation that you get when the media landscape is so heavily skewed
Yes, I get socially ostracized whenever I express any even slightly left wing points. Hell even pointing out the nearly 50k dead Palestinian civilians causes people to respond angrily and with comments like “they brought it upon themselves” or “it’s the fault of Hamas exclusively”
No one wants their lives disrupted by war. Settlers and the army do not represent the majority.
They don’t see their lives as being disrupted any more than usual. That’s the problem.
A war with the middle east is not normal disruption. No one wants to experience a war specially families on both ends.
Tell that to the families in Tel Aviv. They are not having the same experience as a family in Lebanon.
They were bombed by Iran. I guess you are super brave to think the thought of death as not a bid deal. I think isreal is committing genocide lets get that straight. There are a lot of families that dont want to fear death everyday.
Iran’s missiles didn’t stand a chance.
The vast majority of Israelis either directly or indirectly support the army. Even the most progressive Israelis (specifically people who call themselves Israeli) will rarely speak out against war crimes.
Israelis are terrorists who take part of the IDF to ensure the occupation of Palestine.
Of course, people like Haredi Jews and other minorities that don‘t take part of the IDF are innocent. But the rest are terrorists and should be treated as such. ✊
The Palestinian armed resistance is completely valid and it isn’t a „few bad apples“.
Haredis are innocent? Their vision for a the state of Israel is revanchist and purely Jewish. Their votes are squarely in a right-wing corner.
Not such a thing as bad apple in an occupied population
Hamas and their leaders along with the nut jobs running Israel! All it takes is a few bad apples!
You can talk about bad apples on Palestine side if Israel leave all occupied land and stop Gaza blockade and armed group decide to still attack Israel
The majority of Israelis do want war. They only want the hostages out more.
Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated “settler” terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants (of the ICC)
Uh, ok?
I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.
There is number of countries already said they would.
“The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law.”
Pretty sure if he ever sets foot in South America he’ll be arrested
If Trump plans on doing everything he says he’s going to do he’s going to expend his political capital rather quickly, and likely meet more resistance than he may be able to handle, domestically and internationally.
International war crimes, mass deportations, curtailing the rights of queer people and women, deleting entire government departments, introducing tariffs. Also being in Russia’s pocket, then adding pressure from other big actors like China, Ukraine, and Iran into the mix. That’s a lot to juggle and many of America’s long-standing allies may no longer be willing to fully back the new mask off fascist regime.
Netanyahu may just become a liability.
At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.
I think the mask truly went off in 2003. Dubya was an international terrorist in the highest office of the world.
That was really Cheney, his handler.
Don’t worry though, Dems are buddies with the Cheney family now. Those Republican votes for Kamala are going to turn up any day now.
Seriously if anything good can come from this the U.S. needs to stop fucking around with other countries sovereignty and handle it’s own affairs for a few decades.
Look at what happened to Brazil during trump’s presidency. JCPOA. Paris climate accord. The bullshit always overflows.
Anyone who criticizes Netanyahu is immediately called antisemitic.
It’s honestly a pathetic shield to hide behind.
He should be arrested and given a quick trial and hanged.
Imprisonment for live is the highest possible sentence.
Sadly.
ICC:
“We acknowledge that Hamas’ attacks against civilians are crimes too.”Netanyahu and Hamas in unison:
“What do you mean, ‘crimes too’?”Meanwhile, the slaughter goes on because nobody wants to risk open conflict with the US and they* have a raging hard-on for genocidal imperialism.
*Not all of them, of course, but enough are either complicit or at least complacent that it remains a tenable political position.
One thing, why are the Hamas officials never named, and we never get their reaction? I’d really like I to be able to despise both side of that shit medal evenly.
They’re in the article:
The court issued a warrant for Mohammed Deif, head of Hamas’ armed wing, over the Oct. 7, 2023, attacks that triggered Israel’s offensive in Gaza…Khan withdrew requests for warrants for two other senior Hamas figures, Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh, who have both since been killed. Israel says it also killed Deif in an airstrike, but Hamas has never confirmed his death.
Hamas in a statement welcomed the warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant but made no mention of the one against Deif.
Thank you, I should have verified before commenting. It’s still the feeling I get, that Hamas leadership is way less named than Netanyahu. If at least in the headlines.
It’s funny how the criminal immediatelly implied that it’s a Jewish characteristic to be a criminal like him, just like he and his minions (which includes the American Administration) have been continuously implying that commiting all manner of horrid crimes, from theft and rape all the way to Genocide and purposeful child mass murder, is a Jewish chacteristic.
Like the last bunch of Nazis, these people aren’t merelly immoral, they’re so depraved, disgusting and devoid of even the most basic humanity that they’ll slander millions of those they claim to defend in order to avoid the consequences of acting like the most extreme and out of control psychopath (far beyond mere Serial Murderer and well into Hitler-level).
Cue “ICC is antisemitic”, just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.
Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.
Zio fascists
*nazis
The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was “against the Arian Race” and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.
This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.
