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I try to use YT as little as possible these days. Used to stream a lot of indie music, not talking indie radio guitarists no I mean the REAL indie basement dwellers, but since YT took away play-all buttons I moved to SoundCloud. Just type in a song you know in the genre you want and let it autoplay.
If you dig indie music from basement dwellers check out funkwhale sometime, we are building the fediverse version of grooveshark.
Well the first roadbump you’ll run into is that I’ve never heard of grooveshark. Power to you, those on the Fediverse who persevere will benefit immensely during these early adoption years.
Well darn, guess I should have said Spotify. Grooveshark predated Spotify and was centralized but allowed uploading and sharing.
Soulseek is another a great place for sharing and talking about music, its one of the oldest p2p network that’s still active.
Might be internet generational. I’ve never had a spotify account, but I lived on Grooveshark back in the day
I had this happen recently with Freetube and the, very strangely, age restricted new trailer for a Darktide update. Hope the big brains figure out a work around. Even invidious fallback wouldn’t play it.
I’m not giving google my documents to confirm my identity, I’ll pass
Documents? I’ve never submitted any documents to login to any website before. Just give it a fake name with a made up birth date .
Unfortunately Google requires a phone number, which is linked to my person verified by documents. So it’s not really private or anonymous. If you run a normal Android Google knows who you are anyway.
You can create an account on an Android phone that has no SIM or other accounts on it without being required to provide a phone number. Use an old wiped phone just for this.
Not worth the effort.
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If you’re logging in via Wi-Fi, that shouldn’t transmit your IMEI - but I admit that I don’t know if that’s something they do behind the scenes. They also could just use your IP address if logging in from home. They would be making an assumption you hadn’t sold it (or given it to someone else), but I can see that not being enough assurance.
As such, get a used tablet that you only ever use on public Wi-Fi (i.e. never log it into your home Wi-Fi). I’m sure there are some really cheap old ones on eBay - just make sure it’s on a version of Android the Play Store still supports (I think 6 is the minimum nowadays).
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Not a problem if it’s a tablet.
But there is one problem, your old self.
You existed, now you don’t. Are we implying that suddenly someone else moved into your house, started using all of the IP addresses and hardware you use in your stead,… but they aren’t you?
blip whoops steam auto-started your account, well, shit. Do we have to start over?
Are you never going to let your home network connect outside of a VPN again? How far is this going to go? How thorough can you be?
Your current identity is a trail that leads to the new one, directly. It’s all or none. You literally would have to stop doing everything you do now, as you do it.
Anything short wouldn’t be enough. You could create a new person and co-exist, but if there’s any bleed through one way or the other, it’s entirely moot.
Also, Google doesn’t have to know who you are directly. That information can be scraped indirectly from public record and collaborated. It’s how Facebook knows where you are by where you aren’t even if you don’t have an account, you’re alluded to by your peers.
Btw, how did that get pushed simultanously in all those countries? Isn’t anonymous communication a basic right? Did UKUSA pull some strings after the twin towers?
You don’t have to do that, just make a blank account with fake info and out a fake birthday
Maybe it’s a regional thing, they wanted some way to verify that I was really 18+. And Google requires a phone number if you want to create a new account, but I did make a couple more before this was a thing.
Yeah but then you have to actually take the time to log in.
As if they don’t already know everyones age by now from our collected data.
They actually sent me an email one time that basically said: “We’ve changed some settings for you since yoi don’t look 18+”
I gave them my documents with everything except the age blocked out with a black bar. I then digitally altered the birthdate to not be my real one. It worked.
9xbuddy works fine to download age-restricted videos. It’s probably not FOSS, though.
It happens on Youtube Music on the web also.
I don’t sign in on my work computer because last time I paid for food my Google account hijacked my chrome browser.
So now I simply can’t listen to whole albums because some songs are age restricted
It’s been a while since I used chrome, but I used to use incognito to avoid that from happening. You can log into your services in the incognito session and when you’re done and close the incognito session, the temporary folder with your session stuff will get deleted, leaving the normal chrome browser unaffected.
Both newpipe and libretube stopped working for me. I’m now using grayjay
YouTube ReVanced still works phenomenally.
Weird, since yesterday revanced doesn’t seem to work anymore for me so I went back to newpipe.
Mine stopped working yesterday too, it just needs an updated patch version. There is a new version of the revanced manager that I think requires a manual download/update first and then the youtube apk version to apply the patches on is 19.43.41
Newpipe hasn’t stopped working… If it errors, just close the video and refresh your VPN
Have you tried Grayjay? Grayjay gets updates quickly and so I rarely see the issue.
I think greyjay is the best YouTube app. I gave up on Newpipe the moment Firefox for Android reenabled extension support. I didn’t like the fact that Newpipe needed a fork just for Sponsor block support.
Well, with newpipes forks are possible in order to implement controversial features, with Grayjay they are unlikely because of its non-open-source license.
At least its plugins, which are what needs to be regularly updated as platforms change, are open source. I imagine someone will clean-room reverse-engineer the core app and make an open source one that uses the plugins.
Also, Louis Rossmann said they only reserve the right to go after forks to prevent a situation like all the shady ad-ridden NewPipe ones flooding Google Play Store.
At least its plugins, which are what needs to be regularly updated as platforms change, are open source. I imagine someone will clean-room reverse-engineer the core app and make an open source one that uses the plugins.
Reverse-Engineering and reimplementing something is a lot of work, especially if it is a moving target that is still actively developed. I don’t expect anyone to do it.
Also, Louis Rossmann said they only reserve the right to go after forks to prevent a situation like all the shady ad-ridden NewPipe ones flooding Google Play Store.
That is some kind of hand wavy reasoning that might come from someone that could be sponsored by them. Louis should do better than taking any company by their word and promises. And spreading FUD about NewPipe (and by extension all of Open Source software) is also a straw man argument. An untrustworthy software repository is not a argument against the open source software application, but against the software repository and their maintainers.
If you are concerned with that, you should stop using Google Play store.
Just FYI. Grayjay is only source available, but not open source like newpipe and its forks.
The same way porn sites have worked since the 90s. Honor system.
Use PipePipe
Is it better than NewNew?
That’s not on F-Droid.
It’s on izzyondroid repo(also on fdroid now)
Oh, it IS a real one? My mistake lol, checking it out
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Time to use my old yt account.
I’m surprised more people don’t create fake accounts with fake identities?
Be Goliath Giantman who lives in tinytown, Nebraska. Use the address of a Dominos.
Then Go one step farther. Make a social media profile. Post AI photos of Goliath’s family and dog. Assign him the job you wish you had. Sign him up for ancestry .com and create the family tree you want.
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pretty much everyone has at least a couple of old or throwaway numbers tho?
use one of those.
i have lik 5 numbers from 2 different countries rnalso you don’t need a phone number for a google account? (i hav like 10 accounts i switch between in addition to my primary one with all the billing info, google cloud and stuff)
youtube-dl won’t even download them now.
You can, if you pass cookies from your browser to the command line. The easiest way is to specify your browser, e.g.
yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser firefoxI don’t have an account so that probably won’t work. Thanks though!
i don’t understand why people don’t just use revanced and ublock?
I don’t like having a google account that has google tracking any video I watch. Also… the recommendations are more addicting and with Tubular (NewPipe fork) and Freetube I just imported my subs and follow them a bit. Never had to deal with the shitty youtube website once. Also, ReVanced still uses the proprietary YouTube apk and I prefer free software on my phone
You’re worried about Google watching what videos you watch, presumably while signed into your Google account on an android phone?
Unless you’re running Graphene that level of abstraction isn’t much in their way.
On LineageOS build with no Google Service, download using Tubular/NewPipe/Seal/etc. Play on VLC. Makes for a better privacy experience.
Lots of trouble to build, but worth it. The lack of spam and other spooky things is telling.
Thanks for giving further info, there are lots of people that want more privacy but are uninformed on the depths of what’s required.
I’m looking at moving to Graphene on my P7P but I don’t have the time to spend migrating my data and losing access to my digital only debit cards among other things.
My server among many other services is running immich for photos, Syncthing + Keepass for passwords but there are many more services I’ll need to spin-up to feel at ease leaving the Google ecosystem.
Even Tailscale I want to migrate to Headscale / Netbird. I’ll eventually get everything where I want it but there are only so many hours in the day, and so much coffee and ritalin I can consume before it’s two sleeps to Christmas.
It’s baffling even with something simple like a DNS ad blocker - the volume of communication from my partners Windows laptop, her iPhone and my Android phone being blocked with no loss of functionality. I don’t want to look at wireshark.
With no Google account, on Cyanogenmod?
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I think revanced uses a modified patch of youtube spoofing premium. I’m able to sign in using my regular account.
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Sign in using irregular accounts then??
Maybe even reservist accounts!
even if you do, youd need an account
Never got revanced to work on my phone (in spite of reading all the documentation and online advice, doing literally everything that was supposed to make it work short of jail breaking or changing to Graphene) and as for ublock, I use it but I prefer YouTube on a dedicated client to a browser tab since I usually have far too many of the latter open at a time…
Besides, unlike revanced, NewPipe worked perfectly out of the box and it seems like PipePipe still does, so…
I’ll just leave this here
I remember revanced stopped working and I ended up getting premium because it wouldn’t work on iPad anyway.
Are there any alternatives now?
Well I’ve been using NewPipe until the above incident and now I’m trying out a fork of it called PipePipe. On my tv, I’m using SmartTube
have you tried revanced manager? i typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube.
have you tried revanced manager
Yep. And if I hadn’t, that would be the first advice the documentation would give me lol
typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube
That’s what I did, but it refused to patch. Tried every possible thing, but it just refused to work.
NewTube, on the other hand, worked perfectly immediately.
You sure you weren’t downloading the APK bundle? Revanced can’t patch those
Yes, I’m sure.
Did you make sure to turn on the “GmsCore Support” patch? (I think it used to be called “MicroG Support”.) You have to enable that patch on unrooted devices in order for the app to work.
Yep, did that.
My main problem is that freetube perfectly remembers video position, without fail.
YouTube always failsWeird. I don’t have that problem.
I’ve had the same problem, in my case it was that my adblocker was blocking the domains used to track video position, which are mildly tracking-ish in nature.
*.video-stats.l.google.com *.s.youtube.com
unfortunately, this rule had little to no impact on youtubes ability to remember video positions
that’s unfortunate. have you also tried removing the *. prefix?
yep
We need a newer pipe
new new pipe
“God dammit Jian Yang!”
Hahaha this got me good, just finished watching Silicon Valley.
What would you say if I told you, there is an app on the market-
WE’RE PAST THAT
Nude pipe?
I mean, that’s just a penis 🤷
Consider moving to LibreTube or Clipious, got annoyed as well
What do you do when those add age-restrictions? They’re a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.
They’re a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.
That’s not true. If it was, the videos would only be age gated in places where it’s required by law. That’s not the case here in Denmark, to name just one example.
It’s 100% corporate “err on the side of censorship” bullshit.
LibreTube stoped working for me quite while ago “log in to confirm you are not a bot” on pretty much every instance.
Because piped is broken,From what i tested.
Does anyone know why? They are using IPv6 addresses so theoretically there should be infinite IPs.
Honestly YouTube should try to come up with some sort of deal to allow Piped and other third party frontends. Maybe have some sort of paid API access or some agreement to allow YouTube to use piped servers as a cache. The overhead for YouTube is large and maybe they could lower it with community help.
“infinite ips” dont matter if they block your subnet lol
ipv6 blocking is usually done on a per subnet basis
I’ve tried those, both are extremely laggy when they work at all for me…
Oh that is a bad development
Classic actions of a horrible company doing horrible things.
“It’s for the safety of the children”
YouTube soon to update terms of service to include “We must secure the existence of ads and a future for youtube-watching children”
I’m still mad at them for disabling the “add to watch later” button on video marked as “for kids”.
