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TLDR:
Over work
Mentally draining/abusive workplace
harassment
(maybe intentionally) bad management practices
lack of any signs of improvement
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They sell a backpack for 250bucks. Then the zips break on super easy and when there were lack of warranty concerns the response was ‘trust me bro’. Sure they have done better since with that issue but the arrogance factor was on display for all to see back then.
Lots of people (particularly LTT fans) are dismissing her allegations because they think her attempts to self-mutilate to get a day off are signs of her being mentally ill and untrustworthy.
This is the kind of shit that’s gonna discourage further sexual harassment and workplace discrimination victims from speaking up.
“I purposefully cut my leg open so badly I would have to go to the ER to get it stapled back together.”
Until this moment, I felt like she was pushed around by bunch of sarcastic assholes. But this? While they are still assholes, I do not believe a mentally healthy person will do that, in such situation. Like, if you are in some horrible prison, in say, russia, yeah, people do cut themselves there to protest against literally torture, but… its freaking Linus team not an army of maniacs in 3rd world country, just leave them, why do you cut yourself?
I was asked about my sexual history, my boyfriends sexual history, “how I liked to fuck”.
I’d leave instantly. Holy hell. (assuming it was asked like that, nonchalantly and not as a some joke between good friends).
I feel really bad for her and hope she will find better place (at least that), and not really happy with Linus to put it lightly. Damn, this sucks.
Yes well done, you correctly grasped that she was not mentally well at that point, then somehow failed to understand how that could have happened given everything she just explained to you.
“I’d leave instantly.” Did you read the part about her moving for this job? Or any of the other points that would make it difficult for her to do so?
“…some joke between good friends”: either you need better friends or you need to be a better friend. Making somebody uncomfortable by bringing up sex is not healthy friendship.
“… mentally healthy person…” Yeah, that’s the point, being in an environment like that isn’t conducive to mental health.
I’m not interested in any back and forth with you on these points, just maybe reflect on some things you’re saying and see if you can drum up a little more empathy.
Yeah, that’s the point, being in an environment like that isn’t conducive to mental health.
Cutting yourself because of an asshole, its not normal, that is what I wanted to say. It shows to me, that she was more vulnerable in face of abusers, from the beginning. (it does not remove abuse, it does not make Linus any less responsible, quite opposite, in fact). And if my original message does not show “drumming empathy” in high enough quantities for you, then, I am afraid it is not really my problem.
Like, if you are in some horrible prison, in say, russia, yeah, people do cut themselves there to protest against literally torture, but… its freaking Linus team not an army of maniacs in 3rd world country, just leave them, why do you cut yourself?
Weird, until exactly this moment it sounded to me like she was in a horrible prison, but then you mentioned Russia and I was like “wait, isn’t LTT supposed to be operated out of Canada? It couldn’t possibly be this bad there.”
I just want to watch Alex make another ridiculous cooler
Linus’ fan base allegedly drove a little boy to suicide, and the mother subsequently took her own life as well.
I kinda understand arguing with other people in a comment section, but I think it’s legitimately mentally ill behavior to harass and brigade the way Linus Stans do. Just what the fuck
That’s absolutely psychotic, I remember that kid, and that video, I think I remember them shouting that kid’s channel out after he didn’t want to sell the play button to him. I don’t think Linus did anything actually wrong there aside from fucking up and missing the auction lot he wanted that contained the play button, but if his stans did that then fuck those people.
There are a lot of people who are in the running for “worst people on the internet”. Neo-nazis, scammers, etc. But I think gamers take the cake for the ratio of how much awful damage they do vs how trivial their justifications.
There are a lot of people spewing toxic molten flames onto the internet, but for making molehills into murderous volcanic mountains, nobody does it like gamers.
It’s bad because of how mindless it is. 0 forethought into one’s actions, it’s so easy to send a toxic message and never think about it again, then multiply that by the reach of the influencer, and you got a swarm of pure hostility holding no substance whatsoever. It’s so powerful because it’s so careless. This applies to most - if not all - fanbases, but I imagine the immaturity of the younger audiences in gaming spaces leads to this way more easily.
Let’s not forget the anger management problems. There’s a reason “heated gamer moment” is a stereotype. Also the habitual verbal abuse that was cultured during the early days of unmoderated online gaming – fortunately that’s a bit passe now.
I remember during Gamergate there were guys boasting about how gamers were the most obsessive, driven, overly-online people who would stick to whwtever task they set their minds to monomaniacally until it was done.
And if course, in Gamergate, that task was harrassment. Again.
I think the correct term here would be “people who create parasocial relationships with random people on the internet” (I know, too big to call it a term). I have seen the same trait in many communities, where people go to insane lengths for their favourite person on the internet. Whether it be Anime community, K-pop community, hell, even some Taylor Swift fans will shock you with their fanaticism.
I do agree that such people exist in Gaming community as well, but comparing games to groups like Neo-Nazis, Scammers who are in their entirety represents the worst (like you cannot differentiate a good Neo-Nazi vs a bad Neo-Nazi or Scammer, all of them as bad), seems to me like making molehill into murderous volcanic mountains.
“Over work” is a really strong term. I’ve never met a SMM that does less work than that.
The company culture is a fucking disaster tho.
I was expected to post 3 tweets, 2 Instagram posts, and 2 TikToks minimum per day.
I was also expected to plan, film, edit, and post 2 Floatplane exclusives per week.
Instagram/Twitter: image/text posts are not hard since the quality expectation is very low. Looking at their instagram their newest post is just a photo of Linus’ head in an oven and the comment “just tryna bake some of dat cake.” The exact same image and text is posted on twitter. It’s just garbage bullshit.
The two TikToks are per week based on their tiktok page not per day. I clicked few a few, one was a 12 second video of someone taking a battery bank and an xbox outside and playing it briefly with the text headline mentioning touching grass sometimes.
2 Floatplane seems weird to me because 100% of what is on floatlabs is 1:1 with youtube (same thumbnails even) with different titles, at least from what I can see without signing up or paying anything.
I get that making bullshit content all week can be stressful and I don’t doubt it would be impossible in a hostile work environment. It’s a damn shame that the sexual assault allegation doesn’t seem to have any details or any naming and shaming involved because that would seem like a metoo opportunity to get rid of a literal sexual assaulter.
Hopefully they get a good job without any of the problems they faced at LTT.
Damn sad to see, Ive felt the dread of over work but mines not even close to hers. Hope she recovers
Up to this point, I’ve been thinking Linus and his company were just a bit sloppy and pushing hard enough that things were slipping through and while he was currently looking awful, I had hoped he would correct course.
But after this, fuck that, it’s a company run by assholes and whether or not Linus had a direct hand in any of this, he’s the one leading the company and either creating the culture or enabling it. I don’t want to see him succeed anymore. I don’t want to see any of his sponsors succeed either. I hope his revenue falls but his commitments had assumed it would increase and more people speak out about the shitshow it was while he watches it all fall apart and that he spends the rest of his life wishing he had just taken the $100 million.
This is essentially my thought process. I was trying to overlook labs “growing pains” but now I’m unsubbed from their floatplane and not watching their videos on YouTube.
Holy shit what a disaster
Jesus fucking Christ it just kept going. How do these fucking insane people (the coworkers) get jobs and just like full out sexually assault people
Oooooof
https://youtu.be/M8NFhjj0bUk?t=611
edit: sorry about the tone mismatch but it was kinda funny
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Why is a youtube channel a big company? I don’t get it. They don’t even make anything. Just record some unboxings and go home.
One word. Revenue.
Do you not know how YouTube works?
They make money from video adverts, sponsorships, and selling shitty LTT branded products.
It seems inconceivable that they could grow to the point of having so many employees. They don’t do anything that I would consider valuable. Clearly other people in the world disagree or else they wouldn’t be making money.
Hank from Vlogbrothers runs like 10 companies, most of which are YouTube-based, and he and John together managed to raise enough money to build an entire hospital in Sierra Leone
YouTube money/exposure is no joke.
Inconceivable?
It’s not up for debate. You can quite easily get ball park figures from Google for the amount of revenue a channel can generate from subscriber count, viewers per video, viewer retention, etc.
Like I don’t like DnD (never played it, so it’s not I hate it, more it’s not something I like) but I’m sure it brings in a lot of revenue.
Yes it is inconceivable that we as a society have decided the ad industry is worth so much money rather than doing something productive.
Not really. Most people don’t care.
I think rich YouTubers are a drop in the ocean compared to say billionaires.
You know tv ?
This is that.
Look, I’m trying to be subtle, but like 95% of what they put on the internet is basically an ad. I get that the advertisement industry is huge, but I personally find this to not be a valuable contribution to the world and in general a net negative. Maybe back in the day they could have some benefit of the doubt that their opinions are their own, but because they get paid by sponsors they are just shills. As far as I’m concerned this company is worthless and should split up.
There are far more pertinent hills to die on than the overspending of the ad industry.
Like I get it, I hate adverts. We can’t escape them online and we can’t escape them IRL. Heck they’re even on the motorways here which I find wildly irresponsible.
That said, perhaps a better cause would be climate change, inequality, poor access to healthcare etc.
I wouldn’t call the merch shitty at all.
Overpriced compared to other companies in the same quality category? Maybe. But it’s actually not bad quality and all my family members complimented me on the quality.Eh I was being a bit moody and flippant when I wrote that.
That said, I don’t think I have ever, nor wound I ever buy merch from anything. It’s just not my scene, but I’m sure I waste my money on things others wouldn’t enjoy so each to their own I guess.
May I ask why you buy merch? Is it to support the (already rich) creators, is it because you genuinely like the products, you just want cool merch, or something else?
I usually only buy stuff I like/enjoy design wise.
I’m usually not someone that would buy a band shirt and would most likely gravitate to buying the CD instead.In regards to LTT: I enjoy their designs and feel. So far I bought a CPU/HDD/multi nep t-shirt, a waffle shirt and 2 flannel shirts.
That I support them is just a side product.
I believe that Linus genuinly meant it when he says “I don’t want to produce garbage” and for that alone I would spend the 5€ more.For now I will not buy anything anymore and watch their next steps.
Just because it’s something that you don’t care for doesn’t change the fact that millions people are watching. Ad deals and sponsorships are a billion dollar industry. They have more than 5 channels that have a collective subscriber count of over 20 million.
They’re more medium than big, but still, they aren’t small.
Have you watched their videos about their offices? I know in the grand scheme of things having a couple of buildings is “medium”, but for a niche media company yes that’s pretty big.
They have three buildings. Although one of them isn’t currently in use and they’re looking to sell.
They own 3 buildings in the most overpriced city in the western world. That is a lot of money.
That’s absolutely disgusting.
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Curious why these things come forward after the company faces some backlash. Fueling the fire, as it were
Big, if trueTo me it seems like people wouldn’t have believed Madison as strongly if she had talked about it earlier.
LTT has or had a rabid fan base. I expect that if she talked out before the backlash, then the backlash would be against her. So yeah, it makes sense to strike while the iron is hot.
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You heard of that thing that happened called Me Too? So weird, right, how the victims feel stronger even they are not alone anymore?
She literally tells you she feels she can tell her story now that shit is hitting the fan, whereas she knew she’d have been shot down if it had come out in isolation.
Of course she wants to had fuel to the fucking fire. And may it burn bright!
