Most servers are not able to access the Google API.
Invidious report of the same(ish) problem: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/4045#issuecomment-1674373088
You could try Clipious from FDroid. It’s my fallback for ReVanced.
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There is an update for Newpipe that seemingly fixed that issue for me.
I even completely switched from ReVanced to Clipious + private Invidious instance, it’s snappy and flawless.
You can even redirect any Youtube link to an Invidious instance automatically with libRedirect, living the dream.
Piped has never worked for me, to the point where I blocked the bot that reposts all YouTube links.
Does YouTube even have an API for downloading videos? That would surprise me, even if it was for a fee. Their whole business model is adverts.
If you are using LibreTube this is fixable by disabling piped proxies in the setting. HOWEVER do be warned that Youtube will know your IP, so you should only really do this while using a VPN service.
Thanks. Worked for me.
Took me a while to find the setting under the audio and video section of the settings, because I was constantly looking for it under instance, general or advanced.
Thank you! I was doing the same thing, this is badly placed.
Real heroes don’t wear capes, they give solid advice.
ps: thanks
Got a question, I just found out about LibreTube from this post. I use NewPipe on phone and FreeTube on laptop, but LibreTube’s UI looks really good so want to give it a try. Is “YouTube will know your IP” a concern in terms of privacy or because of something else related to them know your IP is using apps that remove ads?
I’ve never been worried about YouTube knowing I use another app to access their stuff, so just curious if this is “just” about Google knowing you IP or something more.
I know this is the privacy community and don’t want to downplay the “Google knowing your IP” part but curious about this and being so explicit on the app setting as well when you turn it on
Also, it is still your choice to use google services. I think if you are new to this (I am no veteran either lol) you should create a very clear threat model. And follow that model. If you notice it’s not for you, alter it. If you need sources for what a threat model is, tell me. But basically, you can “downplay” google services all you want. There is probably some guy that is privacy minded and uses a stock pixel or worse a stock Samsung. And for him, that may be the perfect solution, as he doesn’t really use his phone anyways or insert random reasoning.
Thanks for all the info, really good to know that’s a potential consequence of using these apps, I know they sometimes make multiple requests per video in parallel but naively I never gave it a second thought as potential consequences of that.
I’m not necessarily new to this, I’m trying to degoogle little by little. Ever since I started using home assistant I started thinking more and more about self hosting. I think their add-ons are a great way for the unexperienced user to easily start learning about self hosting small things (password manager, personal notes and wiki, etc).
It is, yes. The issue being they might ban your ip address, which is the first reason why the instances are not playing videos specifically, and then you can not access Youtube servers from the IP you called the servers from. For example, if you use it this way from home without a vpn or orbot, you will likely not be able to access the Youtube servers after a ban from any device that is running over your router directly to the Youtube servers and not over a VPN. I do not know why they do this though, might just be the sheer amount of requests. Not sure, though just don’t. Use protection. An Internet condom. Orbot is free and so is the free version of Proton VPN. Do not use random free VPNs though. If the VPN gets banned you slip on another condom.
Does this also include using ReVanced? Because as I understand it it uses the official app.
I have no idea
Good to know what was going on — I just noticed yesterday that piped vids weren’t loading for me.
They are working for me tho
There’s a whack-a-mole of servers being blocked right now.
Yeah looks like that , few of the servers did not respond for me either !
It’s actually the exact same problem, Youtube now blocks IPs on the video endpoint aka everything except for the actual stream works which is a new thi g to adapt to, they used to block access entirely before.
I just wish Peertube had proper federation and a more accessible interface, some of their decitions sadly make is a unvaiable alternative! :(
Professional content creators probably aren’t going to like the Fediverse in general since the design inherently limits their reach and there’s just fundamentally less money in it for them. I don’t think it works as a profession in its current form here.
I do think something like Peertube would have a place but as you pointed out it’s current desing limits their reach aka lacks proper Federation and the interface is nerdy and kind but absolutely awful to attract users so a failure for a default in my opinion.
Well, it’s moreso that decentralization fundamentally means that there’s going to be a smaller audience for them to reach due to users being more spread out between instances in addition to the lack of ads and recommendation algorithms to spoonfeed their content to new viewers. Even if the UI/UX were more polished, IDK why they would prefer to use the Fediverse over significantly larger centralized services that basically cater to their use-case. The Fediverse is good for hobbyists and everyone else though, whom I happen to prefer for the most part.
With proper Federation the spread literally doesn’t matter so no idea what you mean with that but I agree, the none sustaiable and unethical ad format won’t be possible, no ads is something entirely different tho because sponsor segments and affiliate links would still work just as well. You are right that many wouldn’t choose that path but I am sure a lot would do so if there was a good option, at leadt a lot of the ones I like to watch but currently Peertube is such a pain to use that not even I as geek and foss enthusiast do so! :(
The way that the ActivityPub protocol (this is the protocol that makes the Fediverse function) works is that it only pushes out content to instances that explicitly request it (a user follows another user/channel/community/etc, or the instance uses a relay), so the spread does matter and the ecosystem is kinda stuck with that until the underlying protocol is changed. I’d agree that a different protocol could remedy this, but realistically speaking I don’t see AP getting swapped out for something else anytime soon.
Just use a different instance. Alternatively you can use peertube
“just do this or that.”
while I appreciate the attempt to help and provide options, I think your reply largely misses the point of discussing this. Google is going to keep shutting down those options until there aren’t any left, just like Reddit with Libreddit / Safereddit.
Well both of those reddit alternative frontends used the api. Piped scrapes the pages and gets the stream url, similar to teddit, which still works.
There’s also not much people can do besides trying these work arounds and trying alternative options. YouTube has been the biggest video host for a decade for a reason, so a true alternative will take time.
What happened with Libreddit? My instance is still humming along same as it ever was.
libreddit still works, it just gets heavily rate-limited at the moment, so public instances are usually not working
They are definitely in a crackdown phase. Some revanced versions stopped working just yesterday, the yt-dlp stuff, the ad block block…
The best hope would be to get off of YouTube but that’s not happening any time soon given how expensive bandwidth is.
what happened to yt-dlp?
I updated mine last week cuz it was stopping videos a minute in. Seems to work for now.
Had the same issue, updating the patches via the manager worked.
Same. Used the latest YouTube APK that Revanced manager wanted (which is 3 versions back).
I figure this is something that needs to be refreshed every so often.
Any kind of federated alternative would have to use P2P in some way, and I’m not sure how well that would work. Peertube appears to be exactly that, but testing a video just now showed that it was all from servers and none from peers, so how well it would work with thousands or millions of people watching at once, I can’t say.
If I watch something, I’m happy for my outgoing bandwidth to be the cost for that. Most of us have plenty of that to spare, even if my patience for adverts is zero.
How would content creators be paid? Not my problem, but being paid by advertising has not lead to an improvement in content for the most part. Shovelling out videos with zero actual real content is not something I want to encourage.
why use proprietary when Peertube is free and libre
Because content is on youtube, and PeerTube does not have bridging capabilities. That’s the reason.
What is bridging?
It’s when you connect two unrelated platforms. If PeerTube had a YouTube bridge it would be able to play YouTube content directly on all of its instances without people having to re-upload anything.
Would be cool if we had some foss AI based video format. Where it stores a 3d scene and animates it. Seen a prototype somewhere for a single face.
Then it’ll be cheap enough to host your own stuff again instead of relying on YouTube.
Nvidia has something like this, I saw it on 2 minute papers…. On YouTube.
You have to enjoy that irony
I guess that’s it then. If I’m forced to see ads and be tracked I’ll just block the domain on my network like I did reddit and invest that time in other things.
You can always grab a browser extension. Apple has Vinegar, not sure what others run. Just plucks the video feed direct pretty much like Piped. So no ads. Still stuck on YT unfortunately
Would it be possible for many, many people to use yt downloaders to fetch certain categories of yt videos (Linux tutorials for example) and serve them in a decentralized media network like the fediverse? Basically a distributed, downloaded “migration” of yt content, with no central source or authority that the pipe apps can retrieve from instead of YouTube. Yet again, I’ve basically just reinvented bittorrent but for YouTube content, so maybe it’s not that practical…
That totally sounds possible to me! The other person responding seems to not have very good reading comprehension. Yeah, the only thing stopping this would be drm but apparently most yt videos don’t have drm, since if they did, those downloader apps couldn’t work.
It’s not a half bad idea honestly.
Not sure it would be legal. I guess the authors of the videos should upload them themselves.
No. They all have to connect via an API that ultimately Google controls and monitors. Unfortunately decentralized or not, they all tap into the same well.
But in any case, the extensions can’t be spotted by YT, so that’s why they have the best chance of co existing (or not easily).
Doesn’t sound like you understood the question
I understood fine. How are you getting these videos to begin with? You think Google won’t notice? And when you have them, where are you storing them?
And paying for it all, how?
Trust me. I understood just fine.
You dismissed the idea as if it weren’t possible without engaging with it. It would be possible. I’m not developing the app so I don’t feel the need to provide a detailed plan but these all are solvable problems. The biggest issue keeping it from being a reality would be the legal one.
it’s time for odysee I think 🤔
if anything peertube. fuck odysee and their stupid crypto and ads
Wait-- I’m actually out of the loop on this. Why the downvotes and what’s bad about Odysee?
im also surprised , i didnt know that about odysee and i sense a bit of hostility here.
I don’t get it too, but i think it’s like coreboot/libreboot, the guy that was hating wants COMPLETELY free platform, i upvoted you btw
just use https://yewtu.be
That is just Invidious https://github.com/iv-org/invidious And, while it may not be actively blocked, they are still on the risk of being API blocked as it is the case here.
That is just Invidious https://github.com/iv-org/invidious
That’s true.
And, while it may not be actively blocked, they are still on the risk of being API blocked as it is the case here.
Jein. Jein is a German word that contains Yes and No…
Invidious does not use the official API. It uses scraping techniques. The only way to block that is by blocking the IP address. But that’s also risky when they host it on a cloud service or similar. YouTube tried doing that a few months ago, but the hosters found a way to overcome that…
The advantage of scraping is that it can’t be really blocked if you make your private instance and you don’t have to follow API ToS, the disadvantage is that it can easily break with little changes of the Youtube UI.
That’s true and I remember that it happened once, but was quickly patched.
I’ll use it as long as I can, because the experience on the actualy UI is really bad IMO. Advertisment for scams, algorithms that help radicalizing you, not being logged in gets punished with repetitive popups, bad performance, lots of bots and trolls in the comments, etc. When reading what I just wrote, I should probably donate more money for the project…
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Man, just when I downloaded LibreTube. :(
Interesting how just a few weeks ago yt-dlp also stopped working, saying it was getting investigated in Germany.
