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I refuse to celebrate the man’s death. That just doesn’t sit right with me.
However, I’ll climb on my soap box long enough to point out that first, an insurance business model is fundamentally incompatible with healthcare. It does not work on basically any level and the need for profit will always be in conflict with the need to provide high quality healthcare.
Second, this conflict between the need for profitability and providing healthcare means that most of the health insurance industry is built on a foundation of ethical compromises. For profit health insurance companies like UnitedHealth are just straight up immoral. Any business that has to give loyalty to shareholders at the expense of anyone’s life and health is immoral. Not to mention the incredible amount of work health insurance companies have done to effectively rig much of the American medical system for their own benefit.There are lots of corporations that do lots of bad things but I would classify for profit health insurance as a special kind of evil.
As much as they like to pretend they’re the good guys, the good guy doesn’t make it their sole mission to extract as much money as possible from their customers before they die while doing the bare minimum to keep them from dying.
Long way of saying, my condolences to the guys family. Having your husband/father/etc. assassinated in the street has to be awful. At the same time, screw UnitedHealth. They’re a bunch of worthless blood sucking vampires.
I’ll celebrate for the both of us.
I don’t celebrate that this needs to be done, but I do celebrate it being done. When they destroy any sense that the justice system will see justice done to them, it requires people to seek justice in to her means. It’s their fault. They can choose to repair the system and remove their advantages whenever they want. Until them, I welcome justice.
My feelings are exactly what they would be if the head of a vicious mafia was just assassinated. Probably because the head of a vicious mafia was just assassinated.
How evil does a person have to be before it is acceptable to celebrate his death? This man devoted his life to profiting from human suffering. The fact that the law was on his side does not excuse his actions; it simply means that he worked within an evil system.
I think the ideal outcome is the person changes and stops hurting people. Though in america its pretty unlikely to happen due to greed and ego.
And if that outcome isnt guaranteed, or even likely, is violence that may save many justified?
Those are different questions. Ideal outcome vs what’s most likely to happen. Honestly I have no idea, he literally could have been trying to change the system the whole time he worked there and I would have no idea.
What is good is all the amplified discussion about insurance companies and how they kill people. That wouldnt have happened without a catalyst.
It’s a real-life trolley problem…
Feels a lot easier to me since in my mind the analogy becomes “do you kill the dude that’s pulling the lever to a track with many thousands on it instead of the track with some money on it so you can see if the next person will change the lever back”
Hitler level is sure cause for celebration.
How about all the wealthy people who invested in his regime. Can we hate them too?
Feelings on the topic should allow for nuance and shades of grey, not everything is black and white. Im in OPs camp… Dont celebrate the death of any human, and the amount of damage to peoples lives the company this guy helmed does is unfathomable. You are allowed to hold both opinions.
If the death of a human saves the lives of a bunch of humans, isn’t it then a celebration of life?
No, and this saves no lives, utilitarianism is bad philosophy, grow up.
Reddit Admins are watching their site burn because basically everybody is supporting and condoning the killer, and they don’t like that. Its quite funny.
Mods going nuts banning people and coming back tomorrow to a completely empty subreddit.
Corpos gonna corp
We’re just training their AI model
My condolences to his family, even though no insurance company ever gave my family condolences when they let my mom die
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It would be the funniest thing if a bunch of terminal patients submitted confessions just to tie up resources. A real “I’m Spartacus” situation.
It was me. I shot Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare.
I’m not even terminally ill.
I’d put money on it not being a “member” of the Healthcare company.
First thing they’re gonna do is trace cellphones connected to nearby towers and cross-reference any new signal.
Hellova task in Manhattan to begin with. And people doing this job are likely not going to be clvery motivated.
Hope he was smart enough to not bring smartphone.
Everyone’s assuming that this was a patient who was denied coverage or family member of a patient who was denied coverage, the thing is this sort of person will have made enemies in the corporate world as well.
For all we know this was a professional hit.
Unlikely. Dude literally went to a Starbucks before the shooting and wrote a message in the bullets. That doesn’t scream “professional” too me
Detectives investigating the shooting reportedly found shell casings with the words ‘depose’, ‘deny’ and ‘defend’ inscribed on them.
I just wanted to say it gave me a chuckle how it sounded like you meant he wrote on the bullets at Starbucks. Like it was just a thought that occurred to him and he needed a place to sit down and write on them with a sharpie he borrowed from the baristas.
He could have for all we know! He seems like the kind of guy who would put some real thought into writing his Christmas cards :>
The guy was manually recocking a silenced pistol. Unlikely he did brought a phone.
Its my understanding that subsonic ammo sometimes won’t have enough gas to move the slide fully and must be done manually like this
That’s how my silenced .22 behaves with subsonic. LRs refeed fine.
This sounds like the plot of Cory Doctorow’s story “Radicalized”
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Deserved.
Shame that only damage from the first bullet was covered. Every shot after that was a pre-existing condition. Maybe he would have made it.
Maybe we could have patched him back together, but all the nearby hospitals were out of network.
The guillotine “jokes” aren’t really jokes.
The joke is using a guillotine and not something more modern, and American. Like a gun.
More modern and American than eating a big mac in a ford f150?
Yeah because guillotines are dangerous! They’re very sharp and because of that, we can’t have them in our household near our kids.
His company is offering a reward of one free appeal of a claim denial for information leading to his arrest!
$10k is nothing compared to medical bills.
Perhaps the 9mm pistol is the guillotine of the next American revolution.
TBH I always wondered why people were shooting up malls and schools instead of the people who actually cause the societal conditions they’re upset with
Edit: to be clear I’m not promoting this, it just never made sense to me
It’s called stochastic terrorism or stochastic violence. Essentially people are made increasingly angry and violence prone. Either the object of their anger is inaccessible or too diffuse to actually target.
As a result, random acts of semi-targetted violence become increasingly common. If your objective is to create an atmosphere where people have a higher baseline level of fear, which can drive irrational reactionary behavior, it does wonders. It’s also great at increasing violent acts against people you dislike without explicitly calling for it.Thank you! TIL
The people who deserve it are harder to find and rarely in the same place at once.
CEO’s? Likely at home, shareholder meetings, board meetings, on their boat, private jets (which can be tracked), at their office, speaking at corporate events (annual sales kickoffs, etc.). It would take some work, but not that hard.
Maybe now they’ll finally support remote work!
Because that gets more attention and takes less effort.
Billionnaires control the medias and social medias. They are purposely creating divides between the population to avoid being the target.
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I would love nothing more than to redirect school shooters to stop shooting at their peers/innocent folks in schools.
It’ll be neither. Now that the upper class is affected, they’ll be lobbying hard for strict gun control. But hey, archery still exists…
Crafting functional firearms is way easier than people think.
Especially if you only need the gun to work once.
Lmao true
Please lobby for gun control.
I know a few guys who are into red hatwear… With a lot of guns who might not enjoy that very much.
so you want the guns taken?
No, I want the pot stirred enough for us to take our country back.
Millions of Americans are like you, sitting on the couch hoping the conditions will be perfect tomorrow so they can finally do something.
It’s been eight years since Trump was elected, and longer since Citizen’s United. You’re not going to do shit. Stop cosplaying a vigilante for internet points.
I’m surprised Trump’s repeat assassination attempts didn’t trigger something. Although it would be funny if the Republicans were the party to introduce gun control laws, perhaps the irony is just too much for them.
CEO’s will buy upper body armor and write it off as a business expense.
Pretty sure grapeshot cares not for their armor.
The killstick that got shinzo woulda worked with or without armor.
Normalize Splatoon guns
Explained in this YouTube shorts: https://youtube.com/shorts/MLPCPGfLIDM
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And it’s way easier to get a compound bow than a gun, and not that much harder to learn.
A good deal harder to conceal though
Is that a compound bow in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Harder to hide a compound bow on a subway though.
It’s not as hard if Comicon is in town.
Steampunk Legend of Zelda would be a great cover.
If they ban Comicon the intersectionality will be crazy
they’ll be lobbying hard for strict gun control.
This is America. No they won’t.
Turnip banned guns at his rallies and his boot lickers didn’t care much at all.
If this starts becoming a thing where rich fucks face mob or lone gunman attacks, you can guarantee they will make laws banning guns in “freedom zones”.
That’s what makes it so wonderful. A madman has taken the keys, and his platform is built by crazies who idolize guns more than their own children. You could no sooner remove gun culture from America than you could alcohol or cheeseburgers.
Man, that time American politics tried to remove alcohol from its culture was fuckin’ wild
They already have it in States like Washington.
This is America theyll lobby it for everyone but themselves
Almost all blue states have strict gun control laws thanks to racist white Republicans, see Black Panther Party in California.
But hey, archery still exists…
And if that gets too much heat, a slingshot takes much less space and can also be deadly with the right projectile
A sling with just a little bit of training can put out a lot more damage than a slingshot and it’s literally just a rope and a rock. It’s harder to aim but that’s what the backyard training is for.
Humans have been killing each other for [reasons] since before we even evolved into humans, if somebody is determined to do it, you’re not realistically going to stop them by depriving them of weapons. Our bare hands are deadly weapons. It’ll get done somehow.
Yeah the story of David and Goliath becomes a lot less impressive when you realize David showed up with a Bronze age Glock.
