• Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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    15 months ago

    The thing is Stephen King recently told a story in Billy Summers about how a triggerman fades into the woodwork after a pro hit. And King is someone who only does a bit of research (contrast someone like Chuck Palahniuk).

    So yeah, someone who is not quite dressed like the guy getting caught on camera and then held up by police as a suspect sounds like the police being lazy.

    It’s a hired killer. Follow the fucking money.

  • @[email protected]
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    265 months ago

    Haha, he looks like a young version of my partner. He’s hot and this makes me realise I definitely have a type.

  • oce 🐆
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    135 months ago

    Do some people here not realize that if we start allowing this kind of extra-judiciary assassinations, it’s not only going to happen to who you think are the bad guys? Next one could be an opposition party leader or the spokesperson of a minority defense non-profit.

    • @[email protected]
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      185 months ago

      Or maybe even schools. How will we cope when they start going after our kids? Going after women’s healthcare providers? God, when will this end…

    • @[email protected]
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      475 months ago

      We’ve allowed it for decades. There’s just handwringing now that it happened to a shitbag ceo instead of happening to an unarmed black man at the hands of the police.

    • @[email protected]
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      275 months ago

      To be fair, noone allowed it, it just kind of happened. And this is just kind of something that happens after things reach a tipping point in society, it’s happened throughout our entire history in one form or another and will be happening all the way into the year 50 million assuming we make it that long

    • @[email protected]
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      285 months ago

      What moral highground are you trying to hold onto?

      Here in America we have normalized supporting a genocide. We normalized slavery and torture in our prisons. We normalized extrajudicial killings of anyone we pin with the label “terrorist”.

      Normalizing extrajudicial killings of our oligarchs is a step in the right direction and helps to fix all the other problems. We need more heroes.

    • @[email protected]
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      775 months ago

      Do some people here not realize that if we start allowing this kind of extra-judiciary assassinations

      The fact that he’s wanted for murder and is the subject of an active manhunt seems to suggest that extrajudicial assassinations are not, in fact, allowed. In fact, I might be so bold as to suggest that the justice department generally frowns on them.

      • Tiefling IRL
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        If you get enough people it’s called a coup and it’s legal

        Edit: I should note, it’s only legal if you’re white

        • @[email protected]
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          155 months ago

          If the people doing the coup end up writing the history books, it gets called a revolution.

        • @[email protected]
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          145 months ago

          Once upon a time I would have said “Only if you win!” but the orange in chief has disproven that I suppose.

      • The Assman
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        445 months ago

        How many people have insurance executives sent to an early grave?

      • @[email protected]
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        555 months ago

        It wasn’t murder, it was an assassination… Of a leader of a company that has delayed the care of millions for paper power. What is one life to many?

      • @[email protected]
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        275 months ago

        Your right denying you fellow country men life saving medical treatment is pre-meditated murder.

        • Drusas
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          75 months ago

          That’s not fair to leeches. They’re just trying to survive.

      • @[email protected]
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        Ah, yes, zero consequences for building a business off the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands is ok with you.

          • @[email protected]
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            195 months ago

            No there is no middle ground because the wack jobs have moved their side so far from where it should be that ‘middle ground’ is still deep in their fantasy land.

            People have had enough. This is just starting.

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            485 months ago

            This reminds me of the JFK quote “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

            It doesn’t seem like a middle ground is possible because those at the top make justice impossible.

            • redrum
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              Also, other relevant quotes:

              When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.
              — Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom (1994).

              If the oppressor uses violence, the oppressed have no alternative but to respond violently. In our case it was simply a legitimate form of self-defense.
              — Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom (1994).

              We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere.
              — Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech (1986)

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              “Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

          • @[email protected]
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            75 months ago

            Life in prison? But seeing as the system is set up to reward not punish these monsters I’m not seeing a lot of options

      • @[email protected]
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        95 months ago

        We aren’t talking about the the deceased, but about the one who killed the murderer who benefited from the suffering of others.

      • @[email protected]
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        455 months ago

        In this case I’m not upset. How many deaths, bankruptcies, and lives ruined are these ghouls responsible for? Save your outrage for them. Just because their crimes are less dramatic doesn’t make them less meaningful

      • @[email protected]
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        465 months ago

        Sometimes the only way to deal with a murderer is to murder the murderer.

        In a better society this wouldn’t be the case, but in a society like ours this is the only way someone like a health insurance ceo will see justice for the horrors he inflicts on people.

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          Even less morally complicated, because you aren’t even killing an innocent person

    • @[email protected]
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      375 months ago

      It’s what a random guy with a coat looks like

      A different coat than the one the shooter wore during the act

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    If he gets caught, he should slow roll the trial as looooooong as he can…

    … And run for President in 2028 🇺🇸

    Felonies and civility don’t matter anymore… clearly. He has a platfom I’d like to hear more of.

    Seems to have a face that would look good on a campaign poster.

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      155 months ago

      By being a felon he’s already prequalified to be president. The problem is I don’t think he’s old enough yet, even in 2028.

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        Their laws are worth less than the paper they’re written on. Fuck em. He’s old enough if he gets enough votes. We’re already letting millions of mentally ill fascists elect criminally corrupt sociopaths.

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          35 months ago

          Oh totally in agreement. But if we pretend for a moment that the law matters (it doesn’t) I don’t think this guy will be 35 in 2028.

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            This likely isn’t even the guy as others have been pointing out.

            Too many clothing mismatches, backpack straps, pockets, different from the shooting site.

            The NYPD just needs to arrest… Someone.

            A low level owner was targeted and killed by a peasant in one of their centers of power, New York City. That isn’t allowed to stand.

  • @[email protected]
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    465 months ago

    Call every tipline and report the person responsible for this death and many others - That person’s name was Brian Thompson.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        55 months ago

        Everyone’s finally getting along and you feel the need to come in and go “bUt WhAt aBouT bIdeN?”. Why?

      • @[email protected]
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        165 months ago

        You’re getting downvoted but it’s true, let’s also not forget that our current moderate Democrats, like the Republicans, like our current healthcare system.

        • @[email protected]
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          135 months ago

          I’m not deleting my comment because I stand by it 100 percent. Joe bidens running away from giving weapons to israel the same way horror movie protagonist run away from the serial killer and yet people act like he’s trying really hard and doesn’t fully support what’s going on. Liberal delusions will never cease to disgust me.

            • @[email protected]
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              ‘Well you see here I’m a mature real politik sort of guy so I accept genocide because thats the mature thing to do. Those woke kids just don’t get it because they’re not mature like me.’

              This is not the devastating argument that you think it is.

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                35 months ago

                Support Israel = Terrorists die with a lot of civilian casualties mixed in thanks to human shield tactics.

                Don’t support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they’re all gone.

                Hmm I wonder why Israel gets support??

                • @[email protected]
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                  15 months ago

                  Ok dude I’m sick of the “Genocide Joe” sycophants cropping up in unrelated threads all over Lemmy too, but if you’re gonna argue with them, at least try to make some sense.

                  Don’t support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they’re all gone.

                  Do uh… Do you think every single Jew in existence lives in Israel?

                • defunct_punk
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                  65 months ago

                  Nobody ever mentioned the Jewish religion but you. Really showing your hand there.

                • granolabar
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                  Don’t support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they’re all gone.

                  In light what Israel has done, nobody will care when it happens… and some people will react similarly to how working class has reacted about this “CEO” being denied a claim to life lol

          • @[email protected]
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            15 months ago

            “I got tired of marginally increasing the status quo, so I let orange Hitler take power”

            Also, just fuck off outta here.

  • @[email protected]
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    105 months ago

    Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street.

    What a joyous occasion.

    • @[email protected]
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      55 months ago

      It is for every person denied healthcare by UHC, and to a smaller extent anyone who’s ever dealt with an insurance company in general

    • granolabar
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      Society is deteriorating this is what it looks like…

      When CEO cheers at his pay check after denying claims of sick people WHO PAID FOR THIS SERVICE, do you ever find yourself saying:

      Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street. What a joyous occasion.

      Now think about it… why not?

      • FaceDeer
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        It’s not a good place for society to be, I quite agree. Yet here we are.

        There are probably ways we could change things so that vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs isn’t considered a reasonable option.

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          45 months ago

          We would need a lot more philanthropic billionaires for that to happen.

          Actually the more I think of those two words together the more it seems like an oxymoron.

          • @[email protected]
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            15 months ago

            If you gave a fuck about people you wouldn’t underpay them enough to earn a billion dollars off their labour.

          • FaceDeer
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            115 months ago

            And so, as I said, here we are. In a place where vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs is considered reasonable.

        • dohpaz42
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          125 months ago

          Tomato / toh-mah-toe.

          They are both bad people who got to where they’re at by exploiting people in one way or the other.

          Aside of their nationality, how would you consider them different?

        • FaceDeer
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          So we’ve established that there are some people you’d be happy to see gunned down, we’re now just quibbling over who qualifies.

          • @[email protected]
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            55 months ago

            I wasn’t being serious. Someone like Putin should be in jail.

            I don’t support the death penalty.

            • @[email protected]
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              205 months ago

              I applaud your moral high ground stance, but it’s worth saying there’s no court that can punish a man like that. They are above the law.

              What’s your idealist’s heart say about what to do about people like that when the system that’s supposed to protect us from them is completely and utterly broken?

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              Disagree there. The world would benefit from a good number of people being unceremoniously air dropped over point nemo.

            • FaceDeer
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              465 months ago

              Indeed, having some disconnected powerful authority figure handing out decisions on who should live and who should die is a pretty repulsive concept.

          • Rhaedas
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            “I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure”

          • metaStatic
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            455 months ago

            Denying life saving medical care seems like a good enough place to start

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        There’s always unknown consequences.

        I keep having to go back to the French Revolution- eventually they were executing hundreds of people per day. I’m sure all of them were guilty and deserved Capital Punishment.

        Even Robespierre was executed, and the whole thing blamed on him, though he was adamantly against these executions.

        We’ll never know what would’ve become of France if a different approach had been taken rather than just start lopping off heads.

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          France seems pretty chill today, actually. Relaxed people that aren’t afraid to unify and protest when they feel the government isn’t on their side.

          The appeal of Le Pen to them is worrisome but humanity as a whole seems susceptible to right-wing populism, unfortunately.

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          Ah yes, the French Revolution …

          THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror … A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

          • Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

          Source: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/989759-there-were-two-reigns-of-terror-if-we-would-but

    • @[email protected]
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      75 months ago

      Well, you see, the blood was warm when it was spilled. Unfortunately, because the customer was in the 3rd tier SuperSavings Freedom Unlimited* HSA Semi-Preferred SelectChoice Healthcare plan, all claims require a 24-hour waiting period after symptoms erupt to allow rebuttal from the primary physician. The blood was only cold after the grace period elapsed.

      *Limited