• Chainweasel
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    242 years ago

    I was one of those that unsubscribed. I feel like the show quality has been dropping for a while now and the excessive advertising always got under my skin a little bit. I almost unsubscribed about a year ago when Linus went on his Twitter rant about how “adblockers are technically piracy” because it’s sickening how many ads we have to look at every day and we have to sit though a sponsor segment every video and his plug to his own merch store.
    But now after seeing his half-assed apology (that is also monetized and sponsored) AND seeing how terrible of an environment it is to work for him and the treatment Madison had to endure working under him was enough to push me over the edge. My views won’t be giving him another dime of revenue.

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      His apology video has a sponsor?!

      That’s very fucked up.

      Issa joke by them got it.. I don’t watch apology videos usually.

      • @[email protected]
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        This year has just turned out some incredibly poorly thought out apology videos from various YouTubers.

        I hope people meme the crap out of this like they did for that lady with the ukulele.

      • Franklin
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        No it doesn’t, they make jokes about how they got offered to be sponsored by dbrand but no it itself is not sponsored however it is still monetized

      • @[email protected]
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        No, just youtube ads (that were disabled an hour after upload), as well as like 5 tone deaf ‘and now for our sponsor! Jk!’ segments.

    • @[email protected]
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      Ad-blockers are technically piracy. It doesn’t matter how unfair the ads are, they are what fund the creators (or the creators through YouTube). I don’t seem to recall him berating people for ad-blocking, he just said that people should accept that they are pirating the content. I guess people don’t like self-reflecting when they are labelled.

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        So me, using an ad blocker to prevent incorrectly vetted ads (that contain malware), stealing my information or compromising my computer, tracking my moves, or outright spying on what I say/type/consume is piracy? Then call me fucking Jack Sparrow baby

        Maybe you are young, or incredibly naive (I am not trying to be offensive), but the internet used to be RIDDLED with unsafe ads. There is absolutely no reason you should ever believe they are safe now. Companies do very little to ensure their ads are safe as long as the money rolls in. Skype straight up served malware in their ads for years and never gave 1 fuck. (source: https://www.onmsft.com/news/skypes-traditional-desktop-program-is-spreading-malware-through-ads/)

        Going on the internet without an adblocker (I suggest multiple layers, DNS level [Pihole/adguard] as well as device level [Extensions/browsers]) is like having unprotected sex with random strangers. Yes, you may end up fine, but you also could get some very nasty viruses (with long term damage, such as your SSN being leaked) all because you dont see the value in protection

        Source that ads continue to be unsafe:

        -https://www.itpro.com/security/malware/369892/google-ads-malvertising-campaign-prompts-questions-around-search-security

        -https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/threat-intelligence/2022/07/google-ads-lead-to-major-malvertising-campaign

        -https://www.komando.com/security-privacy/google-ad-scam-warning/847823/

        And these are sponsored search results so that they appear first. You might think google should give a fuck about vetting those…but nope

        edit: Spelling/grammar

        • @[email protected]
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          I roll with an ad-blocker for the reasons you mention as well as because I hate seeing ads. I know I’m part of the problem and part of the reason news sites are putting up paywalls now. Granted, even if nobody used ad-blockers, I’m not sure how sustainable everything online being ad-supported would be. The point is, they are expecting to be supported by ad revenue and I’m likely helping to screw that up.

          It’s something that I’m not going to stop doing, but I don’t make any excuses: I’m pirating their shit and rarely offering a different form of compensation. I’m subscribed to YouTube Premium even though I can easily block those ads too. I’m not, however, going to throw money at every website I find useful.

          I would advise anyone to run an ad-blocker but they should also consider the moral aspect of it too. I don’t know what the solution is, but I’m a pirate in the meantime.

        • @[email protected]
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          the internet used to be RIDDLED with unsafe ads

          I recently had to set up a new machine at home - so I briefly got to experience it without an adblocker. It’s worse now than before.

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    I was never subbed anyway, but I also made sure to find a LTT vid and click on “don’t recommend channel” on YouTube.

    Nuking from orbit is the only way to be sure.

    • @[email protected]
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      click on “don’t recommend channel” on YouTube.

      I’m not very into the tube and had no idea this is an option. I’ll use this going forward. Thanks!

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s great for when a video that you don’t want to watch just will not get off your homepage.

  • @[email protected]
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    I unsubscribed after reading Madison’s thread. Anyone who’s gotten stuck in a toxic work environment knows just how crushing it is mentally. Constant low-level anxiety, feelings of dread, and the inability to even decompress off the clock due to intruding thoughts, replayed arguments, feelings of being gaslit, and the knowledge that it’s all going to happen again tomorrow. Combine that with the sexual assault allegations and it’s not surprising at all that she’d self harm.

    If even 10% of her story is true we’re looking at systemic failures in the entire management chain both to recognize and triage toxic behavior, and to demonstrate professionalism and lead by example.

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      As someone who’s “dream job” has devolved into something I’m now actively looking to leave (albeit for somewhat less severe reasons than Madison described), I deeply empathize with what she’s feeling. Hope she can find some success in the future despite how much of a shitshow her tenure at LMG turned out to be.

    • @[email protected]
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      I requested refunds from all their sponsors products. Hit em in the wallet where they seem to actually pay attention.

  • @[email protected]
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    Just being the messenger here. The problem is that it’s 100k of 15.6 (previously) million. People don’t care, which means nor will Linus. It’s incredibly likely that the “resolution” will amount to nothing, and the channel will remain dead to me.

  • @[email protected]
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    I unsubscribed from all LMG channels after the harmful practises came to light. That’s just not on.

  • @[email protected]
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    The thing is, although LTT is important to Linus, his wife, and with direct ties, the viewers have many choices today with regards to the tech YouTubers of different nature. This makes it easy to just move one. LTT is a mass marketed channel, not particularly niche in any area of tech and there are many like it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Maybe, but with their size LTT can do crazy shit like water-cooling an entire server room with a pool.

  • @[email protected]
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    Good to see, but I don’t think LTT is going to lose most viewers. At least not anytime soon. They still have an insane amount of views per video and all they really have to do is look like they’re sorry and most of the internet will forget about it. I think LTT, if they continue down this path, should be defunct.

      • @[email protected]
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        Can someone explain to me followers and the seemingly weird cult that forms. LTT, Sony, Microsoft, Apple etc. Why are people weirdly defensive of these companies and ignore evidence, death threats etc?

        • DJDarren
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          We like to think we’re evolved, but ultimately we’re still tribal creatures. It’s just that the tribes are a bit wider these days.

        • @[email protected]
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          142 years ago

          Same as with politics.

          People make something stupid (and usually toxic) the center of their identity, and develop a parasocial obsession with it due to having nothing going on in their own lives and want to latch onto someone elses success… especially if that someone else displays the same unhealthy/bad traits that they personally have and identify with, to the point that any threat to, or criticism against, their idol, is seen as the most egregious of personal attacks on them as a person. So they strike out as if they’ve been personally done the worst wrong imaginable.

        • @[email protected]
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          I forget the name of the bias/fallacy, but it’s something like “I love and support X. If X is bad, then I support something bad, then I’m bad. Since I’m a good person, and I support X, then X must be good or I wouldn’t support them”

          It’s probably a quirk of how we make decisions - we don’t consciously make decisions. Instead, we might weigh out the options and that affects our choice, but in the moment we choose subconsciously. It might feel like we made a decision consciously, but sometimes at the last second we deviate from the course we chose (or upon choosing, realize that despite our thoughts we actually have already made up our mind otherwise)… Then we have to rationalize that choice, or start down a long and challenging road of constant introspection

    • @[email protected]
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      Theres nothing to indicate those people were “his fanbase”, and he actively condemned anyone who did that. What is it exactly that you expected him to do about that?

      • phillaholic
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        Be more careful when putting things like that in videos. He’s said many times not to go attacking people he talks about, but he should know the minority of his fan base won’t listen, and he should just not mention it instead.

        • @[email protected]
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          Things like what? It was a completely innocuous (and boring) exchange that people blew out of proportion.

    • Saik0
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      While I don’t doubt for a moment that LTT fan base is likely filled to the brim with fanatics… I don’t want to completely go all in on that story as much as the Madison story. That kid’s youtube channel has a dubious history on it’s own. It appears that the channel was purchased with all the subs that it had, not actually grown. I don’t necessarily believe that they “deserved” the play button if they bought subs. Not to say they deserved to be harassed, but you can’t expect not to be if you do things in a really shady way.

      I could be wrong… I dunno. But I’d encourage a little more research before accepting this story.

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          Correct, but I can’t blame LTT for that. That’s the raving zealot LTT fanbase.

          • @[email protected]
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            No, but you did suggest you should expect this level of abuse for the “shady” act of buying subs and buying a YouTube button someone else feels they’re entitled to.

            Ultimately if a group of people whose unifying property is you and they’re hounding a child in your name you are absolutely responsible for doing everything in your power to stop them abusing that child.

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              Not to say they deserved to be harassed, but you can’t expect not to be if you do things in a really shady way.

              Is what I said. As in I don’t believe that they should have been harassed, but the internet being the internet… we know that’s what happens when people do shady shit like that.

              Linus can’t control idiots that just watch his videos. He was on record as “don’t bother this person” in several places. And I’ve not seen any case where Linus “sent” people to harass this kid. So yes… even if the group is ultimately unified by Linus… I can’t necessarily blame him.

      • @[email protected]
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        I completely agree.

        Yes, it’s sad tans messed up that LTT fans drove the kid to suicide. But if it is true that the YouTube channel wasn’t one that legitimately got subscribers then too bad. The self entitlement to feel you should have gotten a silver plaque for not being talented is insane. If you do something shady you deserve to face consequences…getting harrassed? No. Getting called out? Absolutely

    • Polar
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      Makes sense. All these toxic people unsubbing before hearing both sides. Very toxic community indeed.

      • @[email protected]
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        202 years ago

        You are the worst fanboy

        I never noticed you until today and every single one of your comments is just fanboy defends his idol against anything and everything.

        You are an excellent example of the problem.

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      Is there more to this than just a reddit screenshot posted on what’s clearly a clickbait shithole of a website?

      I remember seeing the video of the play button, and kind of expected the guy to get a lot of hate. It resulting in harassment and suicide wouldn’t surprise me considering how Youtube people are. However, I’m not going to accept such a wild story without some credible evidence, especially since this is also the type of hoax internet losers would make up for clout.

  • @[email protected]
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    I had fallen off a bit anyway; the amount of click baiting had gone through the roof, quality of videos plateaued. Now caught dead to rights on poor journalistic integrity and allegations of sexual harassment in the workplace?

    All so that I can drool over graphics cards I can’t afford? Easy choice to unsubscribe.

    Be better, LTT

    • @[email protected]
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      Their stats were generally upward. No reason to think the clickbait suddenly became too much for people in just the past week. In general, channels do clickbait because YouTube rewards you for it, and that overwhelms a bunch of people complaining about it in the comments.

      No, the drop is attributable to recent events.

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      In order:

      https://youtu.be/FGW3TPytTjc - Gamers Nexus posts video pointing out accuracy and responsibility issues with LinusTechTips

      https://youtu.be/X3byz3txpso - Gamers Nexus discusses Linus’s responses to the first video

      https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY - LinusTechTips addresses the entire situation and their future plans after everything that happened

      I haven’t watched them myself yet, but I think watching those three will sum it up, am about to watch through them myself

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        Additionally, here’s a video from an all-hands meeting the day after she quit. (Reddit, sorry.)

        The following is a transcript if you’d rather avoid Reddit:

        (speaker 1, Linus) So we called this meeting because it’s come to our attention that we need to have a quick chat about the best way to handle HR related feedback and rumors. We won’t be giving any names for what I hope are extraordinarily obvious reasons, but what we can do is give you the following guidelines for problem solving and conflict resolution.

        Sorry that this is all boring and corporate, but here we are. Number one, always stand up for what’s right. We’re only a team as long as we’re all working together and working for each other. That’s the most important one. Number two, always reflect on your own personal experiences and use your common sense. Few things in life are truly black and white. Number three, always wait to hear both sides of a story before passing your own judgment. Be cautious when you know that one side is bound by legal and ethical disclosure guidelines, when the other is not. Carefully consider what it says about the character of someone who would engage in that type of gossip against someone who has no power to defend themselves.

        Number four, always encourage openness and transparency. If you have a problem, you need to speak up. We want to fix it. If you receive feedback about somebody else at this company, the first response is, have you spoken with this person? Followed closely by, you need to speak with this person. We don’t solve interpersonal issues here, or really anywhere in your life, if you wish to live in a drama free zone, by engaging in water cooler politicking. So, if for any reason that individual is not comfortable approaching the person they’re having a conflict with, we have a chain that they’re supposed to follow.

        So first, you advise them to take the problem to their manager. Followed by me or Yvonne, followed by our third party HR firm. I hope that you all trust that we’re here to make this a safe, fun, and productive workplace, and we won’t tolerate mistreatment of any of our team members.

        If you have any reason to believe otherwise, then I refer you again to point number four, which is to address the issue with the individual directly, or bring it to me or Yvonne, or bring it to our third party HR firm. Since I’m not at liberty to share any details about what occurred, uh, all I can do is ask that you trust me and Yvonne.

        Um, some of you know us very well, I’ve been here a very long time, um, some of you have not been here for as long, but I like to think that whether you’ve been here for nine years or nine days, you’re here for a reason and you believe that we are utmost to run this company with integrity and compassion.

        Um, We can’t solve problems we don’t know about though, so on that note, I’d like to invite anyone who has concerns about a fellow team member or about a manager to submit their feedback either by speaking with their manager, me or Yvonne directly, or if you would prefer to provide your feedback anonymously, we have an option for that as well.

        It’s the manager and co-worker feedback form. Uh, Yvonne, if you’re not aware of it - show of hands who is not aware of it? Hey, a lot of people aren’t aware of it. Good, so now we all know. There’s an anonymous form, if for whatever reason you’re not comfortable either talking to me me or Yvonne directly about it - and that’s okay, that’s fine, we understand, that’s why we have these options - Yvonne’s gonna post it in the general chat.

        It’s a safe space to provide us ideas for improvement, or if you’re consumed by the holiday spirit and you want to say nice things, you can do that too. Does anybody else have any questions?

        Not a single question? Wow, that must have been a really good speech.

        (speaker 2, James) You gonna dance on that table, or just stand on it?

        (speaker 1, Linus) That’s it! So, um, Yvonne, did you have anything you wanted to add?

        (speaker 3, Yvonne) (inaudible) Somebody said (inaudible) if you guys want to sanitize your hands, help yourself with free (inaudible)?

        (speaker 1, Linus) Yeah, that was actually just totally random timing. It came up the stairs a moment ago. Dennis is on it. Alright. Thank you everyone. Have a wonderful and, uh, productive rest of your day. And weekend.

      • @[email protected]
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        WHOA WHOA WHOA WHAT

        The Billet Labs thing was unfortunate but I think they are capable of apologizing, learning lessons, and turning things around.

        But that’s not just a toxic work environment that Madison is describing. That’s CRIMINAL. That’s actually unforgivable. Just given how many people knew about it, I don’t think it can be fixed by firing some people. And don’t even think about a sorry video.

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          It’s hardly shocking though.

          He’s outspokenly anti-worker and anti-union. Who is surprised that someone who is against workers rights would mistreat their workers?

          • @[email protected]
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            He’s outspokenly anti-worker and anti-union.

            Jesus this bullshit lie needs to stop. The only thing he said is that if his employees started a union that there is nothing he could do about it and he would consider it a personal failure.

            But by all means, if there’s something I’m missing, please share.

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              I get your point, but it’s more of a bigger picture for me.

              Remember that WAN segment about quiet quitting? The vibe was off on that one. Especially keeping the previous remark about unions in mind. Why would he think that he can be owner and main manager of such a big company with gigantic daily content output AND keep his workers best interests in mind at all times? If he is not anti-union he is at the very least wrong on why they are necessary. In the worst case he actually realizes that he could do much better for his workforce.

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                Especially keeping the previous remark about unions in mind.

                I have legitimately no idea what remark you’re referring to, other than the one I specifically outlined where he categorically did not condemn unions.

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              Sexual assault, a toxic frat-bro culture, and open misogyny isn’t a personal failure?

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            Not to be that guy, but in relation to being anti union, he specifically has said that if his employees feel like they needed a Union, then he has failed as a boss. In the sense that it should never get to the point where wanting a Union should come up as LMG should be a good enough work place to where it would be unnecessary to have.

            There is a difference. I would want my employees to be happy and compesated enough to where needing a Union is just completely unneeded.

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              Yeah I get why he thinks that and it’s a great goal to have as a boss. But who says that a union is always and entirely set up against him as a boss? If he is such a great boss there could very well be a union that doesn’t have to do much. It’s a defensive measure for worker’s rights and working conditions, not an instituition for offense.

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            Yeah the Union is a big one for me, my current employer is also like that. “Hey guys you can share your voice here and speak open about it…” Yes, that’s the problem, it’s open and not really anonymous so what can we talk about. If you can open talk about everything, you don’t have to fear unions.

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            He’s outspokenly anti-worker and anti-union.

            Where did you hear that? From what I have heard he was in full support of the unions, all he said he wanted to create a company that doesn’t require/need a union.

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        I thought this wasn’t new. I remember him getting in some heated waters for being anti union (or just being a shitty boss) and being creepy with that female Chinese engineer at some convention

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      Being transparent about your business, comes with pros and cons. Right now a female employee shared her end of the story to the web on why she quit, and you’re seeing the reaction to it.

      Edit: This amplified the ongoing issue about LTT and their information integrity, which is very likely due to root causes that Linus repeatedly ignored, or worse, believed he was right and everyone was wrong.

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          Yes, she expands on why she didn’t feel safe speaking out

          • sadreality
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            What was that reason?

            This timing is not a good look either way tho

            • Magnor
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              “Not a good look” should be the least of her concerns if she was indeed sexually harassed.

              • sadreality
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                If she was sexually harassed she should have gone to the police when it happened

                She is took this the court of public opinion at an opportune time…

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                  Are you a professional sexually harassed person? Do you understand what is the right course of action to take here?

                • @[email protected]
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                  While I generally agree with the fundamental idea behind your statement that you should generally let the justice system do its job, you’ve still got to put your statement into context. Said context is that a very tiny fraction of depositions of sexual nature even reaches actual charges, and even fewer actually end up in convictions. The justice system is, objectively speaking, utterly failing at protecting people against these crimes.

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                  This looks a lot like victim blaming.

                  If the alleged facts are indeed true, it is incredibly difficult to even manage to get the police to care, let alone act. Not to mention the social stigma and the trauma.

                  Given the number of people involved, other people might be compelled to come forward. Then we will know for sure.

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              She was getting a lot of harassment from ltt fand and was scared of making it worse. Also, she was under the impression she was under an NDA thst prevented her from speaking out.

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          It seems she didn’t speak out both because she thought she had an NDA and also because she was getting lots of harassment anyways and didn’t want to add to it while in a bad place.

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            Yes of course but my point was: what’s to say that nothing has changed since then?

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          Yeah, but she hadn’t talked about it publicly because of fear of harassment, death threats, etc from the community

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        No doubt lol. There’s bigger fish to fry. I’m so glad I’m learning to not participate in trendy drama. Especially when the activists won’t even take time out of their super righteous elite life to tell you what’s going on. It must be huge! Lol

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          Nah, nothing big outside of it being LTT and Gamer’s Nexus calling them out.

          In a nutshell, LTT was given a prototype of a product that they basically said was shit due to testing the product outside of the specified parameters that company told them to test in and, instead of sending the prototype and other stuff that the company sent to LTT for testing back to said company, LTT auctioned the prototype off. Gamer’s Nexus made a video calling out stuff like this happening as well as the inconsistency of LTT’s testing lab data to point out that LTT is basically doing rush job videos for money and is starting to do more harm than good. Linus himself gets involved and shifts blame to everybody else except himself and his staff. On top of all this going on, a former LTT employee started going off about workplace harassment with some pretty serious accusations (but no hard evidence).

          There’s a lot more stuff going on with the nitty-gritty, but that’s more or less the gist of things.

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            Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

            Shitty of him to sell the device but that’s the biz if you don’t put every little thing in fine print.

            Them’s the breaks.

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              It gets worse, the company actually sent the correct graphics card to test the device on, but they still used the wrong model which doesn’t fit properly.

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              What needs to be in the fine print of LTT confirming they’re going to return it… to then turn around and sell it after confirming they’re going to return it?

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                  They admitted it in their own video… GN also showed emails that came direct from the company.

                  https://youtu.be/0cTpTMl8kFY?t=800

                  From LTT’s own video. They show an email from “Felix”

                  I’ll transcribe so you’re not wasting time trying to pause the video if you’re on mobile or something. Bold is my edit.

                  Right. We Originally said you could keep it because we thought it would be good for you to have it for future builds - it wasn’t so you could sell it (whether for charity or not). Then when Linus clearly didn’t like it, we asked for it back and you agreed. That was a [redacted] prototype and we’re a very small company. Do you plan to reimburse us for the money it cost? You agreed to send it back and we planned our finances accordingly. This is not okay at all."

                  Edit: For completeness. The redacted portion was the cost of the prototype itself.

      • @[email protected]
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        Sexual assault and stealing and selling one of a kind prototypes is a bit more serious than just drama.

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    I completely understand why others are unsubbing, but I enjoy the content and want to see how the new CEO ends up handling all of this. Threads like this seem to be inviting everyone to post about how they never liked LTT in the first place, but I wanted to write this down because I’m sure I’m not the only one who actually enjoyed the content and the cool technology and unique solutions they found when building PCs and cooling them.

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      I agree, though I stopped taking their hardware reviews seriously. I could tell they were rushing and being sloppy. One of the things I was starting to get excited about was their pushing of manufacturers to improve repairability. I love what framework is doing, for example. Steve is big on this as well, but the more voices the better. The amount of stuff going into landfills is really starting to bother me.

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      Yeah I think LTT has done a lot of great stuff and could do some really amazing stuff yet. I enjoy the content and have supported them, but nobody’s perfect. I don’t think anything they’ve done is worth an unfollow at this point, personally, but I understand why some may not agree.

      I think Linus has gotten lost in the sauce. It’s been apparent that everyone there has been exhausted for a while, and I think Linus hasn’t cared for the people working for him as much as his desire for a media empire, which has led to overworking and an unsustainable work environment.

      Linus’ take on unions was shitty. IDK if a union could ever start there, but it seems like it could really help the company become more sustainable and keep it on course, because it seems like if the employees had their voices heard things might not have got so bad.

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      I mean I don’t watch GPU reviews because they are mostly boring anyways. I only watch for the janky videos and pushing the boundaries and building wanly stuff.

      The Madison claims need to be taken serious, but it’s not like this couldn’t be individuals that need to be singled out and kicked out.

      So I really don’t get the rage

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      62 years ago

      I really do like his content, I put it on generally when I get home from work and Im cooking dinner.

      I’m willing to buy that this was a series of unintentional fuckups and accidentally bad business practices. But I’m also not going to support them if they cant conduct their business ethically, so thats why I unsubbed and shitcanned my Floatplane subscription.

      If I feel that they addressed this shit to standards that I’m willing to support their business I’ll probably click the buttons again.

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      182 years ago

      I unsubscribed to show them how seriously I take the issues. If they improve and the investigation succeeds, I will resubscribe. And I did enjoy LTT, which is why I was subscribed.

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      the cool technology and unique solutions they found

      Cool technology they barely know how to use. The storage server and Linux challenge videos demonstrated that very nicely. These guys are not tech experts.