“To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
Post got removed in .world for not being a “news source” even though Klippenstein is definitely a very established independent journalist, so trying again here I guess.
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Just exactly how is this a “manifesto?”
They are framing him in the same camp as uncle Ted.
The issue I don’t think they realized that people might take it “the wrong” way haha
If this is really his letter, which I assuming it is since it is too level headed and direct, this can’t be good look for parasite class.
Mark my word the term “parasite” will modded going forward as a hate speech. I just feel the censorship and bans on all main stream socials with corporate advertisers at least.
Mark my word the term “parasite” will modded going forward as a hate speech
Please explain how you think a platform would explain this to their users.
CEOs are people to too, can’t name call them. It is a “slur”
Sounds pretty unlikely.
It is a speculation.
But in modern America difference between truth and conspiracy sometimes is merely 6 months.
a written statement declaring publicly the intentions, motives, or views of its issuer
Will post more in my own comments
To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country.
Interesting to point this out. This seems more like a liberal radicalized out of circumstance than a Marxist or Anarchist. I wonder what his course would have looked like had he channeled his energy into organizing and reading theory, would he have made the same decisions, or not?
You know… as common as it is to label and group and classify people online, I just don’t think that generally works the vast majority of the time.
Usually people acting for ideological reasons have ideological motivations.
US neo libertarians are taught by the Koch brothers to despise all government regulation and enforcement agencies, except those that keep poor people from taking rich people’s money
Yeah based on his goodreads and other social media he’s definitely more of US style Libertarian or conservative. He tweeted some stuff about wokeness and DEI, some of the new athiesm junk about how athiests replace Christianity with worship of social issues, and seemed to like Elon Musk. He also didn’t seem to be fully committed to the ideology though, he had real criticisms of Jordan Peterson and he seemed to be an environmentalist. He honestly just kinda seems like a normal, if privileged, person. He has a mix of political ideas, some which don’t necessarily mesh, and is willing to criticize some of the people he agrees with.
But if anything him being someone who seemed to like CEOs, who grew up pretty wealthy, being radicalized by the industry is kinda a stronger message about how unless you’re one of the corporate elite you don’t matter to them.
Very few people fit neatly into a political label. We tend to be all over the place on political issues.
Yes and no. Among leftists, most do fit into fairly neat labels, because leftist ideology is that of consistent frameworks. Among liberals, there doesn’t need to be as much consistency because its the status quo and doesn’t need to be consistent ideologically.
I think it’s also the fact that there tends to be a ton of specific labels for different leftist subgroups too, stuff like anarcho-mutualism is similar but not the same as syndicalism, or blanket libertarian socialism, etc. That and the fact that most people will self identify as one of the moderate labels like conservative or centrist or liberal, and do so in spite of their beliefs, not because of them. People who reflect enough on their ideas and desired policies will tend to be a bit more consistent about them and the labels they use to describe them.
Not many people are pure leftists though. We all have our inherent biases based on things like social class, upbringing, religion, nationality, etc. Just because a consistent framework is there doesn’t mean people just fit so well into it.
The frameworks are consistent and have “correct” conclusions, which means over time individual biases erode into established tendencies.
Rarely. Humans can be very inconsistent due to their inherent biases and emotions. If what you say were true we would have been able to observe it take place by now.
We can and do, that’s why tendencies are well established.
It’s important to distinguish within a political philosophy the normative values that inform it and the actual strategy, if any, that it prescribes. Especially on the left, there is an extremely large amount of common ground with respect to normative values, and what distinguishes the different tendencies almost always boils down to little more than arguing about why the other person’s strategy will actually not work and why their strategy is what we need to be doing. But like something else I notice is very rarely do people actually engage with the context of situations and they also think in very absolute terms which makes them feel like by identifying with a particular tendency they are attached to and constrained by it. What’s even more interesting to me is this common ground doesn’t even end at the left and quite frankly even the average politically disengaged individual will agree with so many of the normative values expressed by leftists, and with a thoughtful rhetorical approach can usually be made to see all of these issues for what they are.
this is all to say that the idea of being any particular kind of “-ist” in the sense that it means you can’t be also at the same time critically engaging with or even simultaneously identifying with other kinds of “-isms” has for a very long time felt extremely incoherent to me and even worse is when people try to project these labels with certainty (typically at the exclusion of other possible labels, no less, other labels which are simply assumed to be impossible to synthesize together) onto others on the basis of random public statements they have made.
That’s the funny thing about leftism being objectively logically and ethically correct. The framework of theory also consistently addresses those exact points and material conditions.
The left-right dichotomy is not about political philosophy, but attitudes towards the status quo and hierarchies.
Do you have resources expanding on this? Beyond the communist manifesto?
Cowbee has an intro reading list: https://lemmy.ml/post/22417306
The anarchist library is pretty good if you’re interested in anarchist theory.
The FAQ is a great starting point, I’d recommend jumping around though, it’s easier to get specific answers than reading straight through imo.
The librarian picks would also probably be a good place to look, one of the recommendations there is Emma Goldman who is great.
Spoken like an OG D&D player 🤌🏼
Funnily enough my only exposure to D&D was from Baldurs Gate 3. I’ll take it as a compliment though.
Definitely yeah, stuff like the political compass have been awful for nuance in discussions.
That is literally a suicide note found on someone before he mustered the nerve.
damn is mario even a family friendly franchise anymore?
I appreciate you posting this here. I had not read a manifesto yet that sounded like it was legitimately his. This one seems internally consistent at least, as if it was written by a real person. Can never be sure.
In this one, it seems there’s nothing for me to dislike, which makes me believe it was written by a real person, but even more cautious about believing it. I had, until now, only heard negative (from my pov) things about him. It is unusual for something like this to leak. The media tries it’s best to keep the lid on contagious ideas. (Another reason to be incredulous)
I expect the media will try to give both sides something to dislike about him, to discourage idolatry and imitation. Feels like some 1984/Brave New World style social engineering to me.
Watching whoever that dumb fuck who isn’t Jon Stewart latch on ONE LINE of this and mock him for being “not qualified” was the most pathetic showing of former satirical programming just being state propaganda i’ve seen in at least 4 days.
Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty
This is either disinformation or whatever asshole wrote this doesn’t know US history.
You can still see the scars in the JP Morgan building in wall street from the horse drawn carriage bomb that was set against those greedy corporate assholes after the arrest of Sacco and Vanzetti in 1920
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing
We have a long history of defending against their violence
1920? A horse drawn carriage bomb lol. Surely and clearly he was talking about modern day. Dudes 26, been remotely conscious for like 15 years maybe, people have grown complacent.
People are no more complacent in 2024 than they were in 1920. One major difference, however, is greater concentration of wealth and news outlets.
We used to have hundreds of anarchist newspapers in circulation. When was the last time you read an article written in your local anarchist newspaper?
We still have leftist collectives and many produce articles, podcasts, films, etc. But I think its harder to come across it today than when news was printed on physical paper
One major difference, however, is greater concentration of wealth and news outlets.
Yes. There’s exponentially higher levels of exposure to brainwashing propaganda in 2024 vs. 1920, to unsafe levels of consumption.
He acknowledges that work in the writing, saying that there are others that who had laid out the arguments about class conflict better than him. The “facing it with brutal honesty” he was referring to was shooting a CEO in the street. Not writing anarchist newspapers and starting leftist collectives. And again, his perspective is clearly from the last decade or two when this kind of action is happening even less in the U.S.
Are you not familiar with Alexander Berkman? Learn your history.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Berkman#Attentat:_Frick_assassination_attempt
Maybe if you were reading your anarchist monthly, you’d be more familiar with historic and recent actions that use nonviolent and violent tactics to defend the working class from the violent oppression of the oligarchs.
Find your local anarchist bookstore. Read their books.
1891??? You’re grasping at straws and ignoring my comments.
I can definitely see why someone not as well versed in anarchist history could believe that, or if they specifically meant against the insurance industry. Either way though, I think it’s important for people to know about that history of violence that led to meaningful social reforms. So many Americans think that workers rights, civil rights, and everything short of the
abolishmentrebranding of slavery was won through voting or peaceful protests.Too many people believe that somehow a state has some divine morality granted to it, and justice can only happen within the confines of said state. No moral act can be carried out without the government sanctioning it, and any miscarriage of justice by the state is an abnormality.
There may be a monopoly on violence held by states against their people, but this doesn’t give them some inherent right to be the ultimate arbiters of justice. Something being legal does not make it moral, and just because an act is illegal doesn’t make it immoral.
Something being legal does not make it moral, and just because an act is illegal doesn’t make it immoral.
Well said
Against the healthcare insurance industry?
I mean if you want to get extremely specific then, maybe. I would be surprised if this was the first defensive violent action against the private healthcare industry.
That would make a good article, to document this history…
i think this one (manifesto) is fake for obvious reasons. this one is real https://archive.is/7jUsF
it’s way more coherentThat is not anything a heir to a 600 million dollar fortune would write. You have to ask yourself “Wtf”, which story is real?
Just remember which instance let you read this, and which one wouldn’t let you.
.ml doesnt need to host a bi monthly feud posts like .world does. Their moderator actions are all the advertisements we need. Make an account and export your settings today! Lemmy.ml
I don’t wanna get banned for saying China does bad things too lol
You won’t get banned from ML for that. You will get banned from .world for saying China does good things though
Was banned for exactly that from .ml way before most were even on it. Remember Prismo, yeah you don’t. .ml admins are single-handedly responsible for why Lemmy adoption is so poor.
Btw, Lemmy logs are transparent so it wouldn’t even take that long to prove you wrong but I’m not wasting my time here on this mess. Do it yourself if you truly want to know or chose to live in your own bubble of ignorance.
Lemmy logs being public is how I know you’re wrong: because everytime someone says they were banned just for saying something bad about China I can check and see they actually posting outrageous racism and misinformation
is that what this guy did? I didn’t know logs were public. Is there an efficient way to search them?
IME for most circumstances where you want it, this is the easiest way, at least on desktop. There’s a similar choice behind the three dots menu of posts, also.
Hey thanks. Turns out I’m actually banned from at least one community. They think I’m a bot. Beep boop.
EDIT: Actually, I think that must have been lifted. I commented there earlier today and the post has upvotes so I assume people can see it. Is there any way to be notified when both banning and subsequent unbanning happens? The Modlog doesn’t mention the unbanning part of the equation.
Orange button in the community sidebar, next to the list of mods
As long as you don’t blindly repeat things from the US state dept without any critical thoughts you’re fine. Look into things before you say them, China has plenty of issues, pick a real one.
China is perpetuating genocide against their uyghur muslim population.
Edit: lmao, fuckin gottem.
lemmy.world is perpetuating a genocide against our braincell population
A genocide which was proven to be false by UN, Organization of Islamic Cooperation and the World Bank. All of which found no issues in the region. In 2019 July, the 41st session of the UN Human Rights Council met and voted on two opposing letters regarding Xinjiang. 50 countries voted in favor of China’s policies and 22 voted against.
On 2019 October 29, at the 74th session of the UN General Assembly, 24 countries and the EU criticized China and 57 countries supported China
A great wiki piece, though obviously biased(as any piece of information is, no matter how much they say ):https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Vocational_Education_and_Training_Centers
Yeah that’s the unsupported US state dept propaganda I was mainly talking about.
We know what genocide in the 21st century under an authoritarian regime that has complete and total control over the flow of information looks like, thanks to Israel. The Palestinian genocide is the most well documented genocide in history, despite Israel entirely controlling the access to technology, press, and internet, with a tighter grip than China.
Uighurs aren’t under going a genocide. You can visit Xinjiang right now, without a tour guide. You can bring whatever tech you want and post whatever you want.
Was China harsh in their initial crackdown of allegedly radicalized elements among the poverty stricken population 20 years ago when 9/11 was still fresh in everyone’s minds and the US government was invading a half dozen countries causing terror groups to flee to other countries and start cells there? Sure.
But fewer people of uighur descent were killed or imprisoned over the last 50 years in China, per capita or by total number, than black people were by the us last year.
If that’s the basis for genocide, then boyo every country on the planet has committed genocide and is committing genocide.
Intentionally misdefining the word genocide doesnt make you right tho
What part of uighur culture was erased, exactly, by funding schools, arresting foreign violent religious extremists, and building affordable housing?
Are you saying uighurs are all violent, uneducated, homeless people and should remain that way due to their culture?
Just a reminder before you do the next state dept line, there are more mosques in every major Chinese city than there are in the state of New York.
With a pic of winnie the pooh himself in every one.
But fewer people of uighur descent were killed or imprisoned over the last 50 years in China, per capita or by total number, than black people were by the us last year.
Well, yeah, because the US has been waging a genocide since its founding.
I’m on .ml and I’ve said plenty of critical stuff against China, the mods are chill and in general it’s been a really solid community.
That being said, I’m a hardcore leftist, so even though as an anarchist, I am strongly at odds with many statist solutions, I agree with the vast majority of leftist underlying critiques of sociopolitical issues.
.ml sucks too. When I’ll move, it’ll be some super niche instance or self hosted.
I mean .world 100% sucks lol, and people should definitely move off it, but I’d also like people to move off .ml or any other general purpose instance since centralization on any one instance can cause issues imo. I’m considering switching off of .ee for the same reason. I think it makes more sense to have specific instances for specific things, so that the admins of one instance can have more domain specific knowledge ideally.
.world specifically does seem like they can’t go more than a few weeks without some kind of drama though lol.
The .ml/tankie witch hunts on .world are what got me to jump. It’s just exhausting.
What instance can I go to, so that I can freely say pure capitalism sucks, pure communism sucks, China / Russia governments suck. USA / Israel governments suck, every Islamic government sucks.
Bottom line is that most governments / authorities are shit, but there are levels to everything. And some are clearly worse than others.
I side with the people 99% of the time and I want an instance that sides / protects people not governments or ideologies.
Where can I find this?!
It sounds like you lean anarchist? If so, I believe that https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/ is an anarchist instance?
small instances do this better
Your instance. That’s what is great about the fediverse is that if there isn’t an instance that meets your needs, you can host that niche yourself and still have access to the same content (assuming you can stay on good terms with the other instances)
Personally I don’t have a problem with Lemmy.world’s moderation choices but if I did, I could always self host. But quite frankly if I had to face the risk of hosting an instance, I’d probably make a lot of similar choices
Db0
Damn Gen Z kids can’t even write a full page manifesto anymore smdh
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or type initialisms
Shaking head my my head?
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What’s funny about this? Its just confusing
The humor is mostly referential. Guess you just had to be there
IKR, right? It’s just redundancy for its own sake.
ChatGPT, write me a manifesto
📎 Looks like you’re writing a manifesto, would you like some suggestions?
Actually I was just writing a letter to my sister you fucking crazy paperclip.
And, clippy, do you really need that M16?
[indecipherable] is the new [redacted]
I think it’s “4th”.
I think there’s something else being withheld. This might sound a bit crazy, but there have been a lot of 286s involved. Denial code 286, Breloom, 286 tweets, following 286 people, caught 286 miles away from the scene of the crime, and the manifesto is not 286 words, but 262?
I suspect the second indecipherable is because they did not want to give the public a “name” to unite behind, kinda like how democrats started calling enemies “weird”.
Imagine if he called them “assholes” or smth, the public would latch onto that and use it as a rallying standard.
Not like we needed help calling them that, and his calling them “parasites” earlier seems at least slightly less generic and more cutting
o7
There goes my heroooo
How long until someone uses the Hello Mario Framework or similar to build a game where Luigi battles US healthcare, pharma, and oil execs?
“Lock In, Luigi” or something, I’m thinking? Maybe “Luigi’s Ghost Gun Go-Round” or even something more akin to Duck Hunt? Hmm… “Greedy Fuck Hunt”?
Greedy Fuck Hunt 😂
That’s probably even easier to build, just a few mods to this:
https://github.com/MattSurabian/DuckHunt-JS
