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Luigi, bro, you on Lemmy? Lmk
Yeah. 40+. Blind, mostly. Lower back problems. But definitely a different last name.
I mean, he might not be able to log in right now…
Problem solving. Maybe we shouldn’t have pushed STEM so hard to the underpaid, unemployed, underinsured masses.
-Somebody with the wherewithal probably
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I could get lost in that smile.
Does everyone still feel the same if he turns out to be a neoreactionary / accelerationist?
Per The San Francisco Standard
Mangione gave Ted Kaczynski’s book “Industrial Society and Its Future” four out of five stars, writing that the man known as the Unabomber was “rightfully imprisoned” for “maiming innocent people” but noting that his actions were “those of an extreme political revolutionary.”
Mangione’s social media accounts paint a picture of a tech enthusiast with a soft spot for conservative thinkers. He has retweeted posts from right-wing capitalists like Peter Thiel and lists an applauding biography of Elon Musk as one of his favorites on GoodReads.
Have you seen his abs?
Besides which, it’s difficult to say violence is wrong when we tolerate apatheticly so much systemic violence.
And with the new administration we’re expecting to see so much more with mass deportations and killing our already meager social safety nets.
We’re always three skipped meals from mass riots that overwhelm responders. It’s an exciting time to be alive.
Yes. I don’t understand why the right will excuse pedophilia and mass murder, but the left will throw somebody under the bus if the follow the wrong person on shitter.
Applaud the actions, do not create a hero. Nobody will live up to those expectations for everybody.
yeah but if it turns out this is the guy, I think actions speak louder than words.
Is he repped yet? If not and anyone knows how to get in touch with his people please contact me. I have a line on a few free attorneys that take cases of this magnitude.
He comes from money, he won’t be needing free legal help.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9nxee2r0do
"He attended a private, all-boys high school in Baltimore, called the Gilman School, according to school officials. Mr Mangione was named as the valedictorian, which is usually the student with the highest academic achievements in a class.
He comes from a prominent family in the Baltimore area whose businesses include a country club and nursing homes, according to local media.
He is reportedly the cousin of Republican state lawmaker Nino Mangione."
And you’re the
“Lemmy Jordanlund”
“COMMUNITY MODERATOR”
"COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT "So what, who cares? The guy will need help regardless of if he’s guilty or not.
He needs help, he doesn’t need crowdsourcing to pay for it. :)
If you want to crowdfund someone, donate to somebody who got denied by the insurance company.
Go for it. Who have you donated to that’s gotten denied by an insurance company?
My wife… She got an infection which required a toe amputation before the the infection could turn septic, enter her bloodstream, and kill her.
First Aetna tried to claim the surgery was not medically necessary (really? Where’s your medical degree?) then they tried to claim our in-network hospital wasn’t covered because they used an out of network surgeon.
Sound familiar?
Paid the bill then continued to fight with Aetna for a full calendar year before they went “Oh, hey, you’re right…” and refunded me.
Maybe he’ll get the “boys being boys” case dismissal
Nice nothing better than a free lawyer off the internet to defend you in a murder case. I can’t imagine that ever going wrong.
Hey genius… Ben Crump is a free lawyer off the internet. Maybe instead of shooting down offers to help you take your head out of your ass.
Any paid Manhattan attorney has more in common with the CEO. This guy needs a real street fighter. Not some prissy bitch.
We should spend the next year blanketing NY with information about jury nullification.
100% agreed. Might I recomend making https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqH_Y1TupoQ go as viral as possible.
This better not be a rickroll…
I like that, but there is a major problem with it, and it’s around 2:49 in the video:
Do you have any beliefs that might prevent you from making a decision based strictly on the law?
Grey suggests that saying “No” with intent to nullify is lying, and therefore perjury. He is wrong. Where legislated law and constitutional law come into conflict (and they do in all cases of nullification), it is your duty to strictly follow constitutional law. You must judge the case as a layperson. You are constitutionally obligated to follow your own sense of rationality. That means if legislated law provides an undesirable outcome, you are obligated to “strictly follow [constitutional] law”, and refuse to convict under a lower law.
I can honestly claim to have no beliefs that would prevent me from making a decision based strictly on the law. The 6th Amendment is part of the law, and the 6th amendment requires and empowers me (as a juror) to make whatever decision I determine is appropriate.
My reply would be: “if the law is just, I will make a decision that serves justice”.
And they would respond “You are excused, with our thanks”.
Don’t get creative. The only correct answer is “no”.
I had half a day to think about it when they were selecting jury for a DUI case. I’d rather speak my mind freely for the jurors they’ve already selected, who are present during the full selection process. Normally one might think context doesn’t matter but DUI laws can also apply to a bicycle, which is a perfect candidate for being nullified by the jury.
You can speak freely with the other jurors during deliberation.
Yeah but I also didn’t really want to be on the jury that much. And I didn’t get called up anyway.
Earlier in the video he stated that the jurors cannot be punished for their decision, this applies if the outcome results in perjury.
We aren’t talking about the decision. We are talking about voir dire. You certainly can be charged and convicted of perjury if you lie during voir dire.
But again: it is not a lie to remember that the 6th Amendment right to a trial by jury of peers (as opposed to professional jurists) is constitutional law. It supersedes any legislated law, or any directive provided by any court. I hold no beliefs that might prevent me from making a decision strictly in accordance with the law.
We are talking about voir dire.
Wait, that isn’t just a term from “My Cousin Vinny”‽
Careful, in case you haven’t heard, discussing jury nullification is apparently against the rules of lemmy.world. SMH (at lemmy.world admins).
The pinned post on lemmy.world right now clarifies that discussing jury nullification for crimes that have already happened, such as this, is perfectly acceptable. It’s only discussing it with respect to crimes which have not yet been committed which is against the TOS.
Wait, we got a Future Crimes Division? I didn’t know .world was run by a bunch of milky precogs…
If you plan some violence and include jury nullification as some viable part of the plan, and publish that shit online, not only is it kind of useless and lousy opsec, but it will attract heat that is unwanted and unnecessary. It’s literally a conspiracy to undermine nullification at that point, like a false flag. So no, don’t do that, and I back the mods on this.
I didn’t
What the Multivac?!
If you trust them after having enforced an unwritten policy and still not allowing discussion of something that’s perfectly legal.
I do. They’re cool.
They are certainly empowered to do that, just as I am empowered to block any instance I don’t want to participate in. If they are not tolerant and respectful of my beliefs (even if they don’t share them) then I don’t want to contribute to their community either.
Layperson juries are a fundamental component of criminal justice. The law exists to serve the people, not the lawyers, not the government. Rejecting jurors for understanding the purpose of having a layperson jury fundamentally violates the rights of the accused in particular, and society in general.
I’m not sure that’s true. I’ve had plenty of comments stay up. My guess is either the mod team got their shit together or those comments were deleted for other reasons.
It seems that it was never written in their terms before and had been inconsistently applied, but just in case you hadn’t seen these:
Mr Mangione worked as a data engineer for TrueCar
Looks like TrueCar had a decent Aetna plan in his state.
I was sure this shooter was on United Healthcare.
I had the same thought. Perhaps a close family member has/had UHC?
Luigi Mangione is a CEO shooting suspect.
FIFY
I admit I’m kinda disappointed. He pulled out almost perfect assassination that looked well thought out, managed to get away with only a few hickups in his plan as far as his face is considered, and then walks around with a murder weapon and a manifesto in his bag? Shame, really. All he needed was to lay low for a while, grow a beard and he’d probably be OK.
if you check out his twitter, seems to be your typical toxically masculine techbro… kinda disappointing
Of all the people, it happened to be someone who likely uses lemmy.
wait…there’s only like a thousand of us !
We are all Luigi.
I am Luigi
I am Luigi.
No, i am Luigi!
I’m Luigi and so’s my wife
I am
Sparticus! Errr…Luigi!brb naming my newborn Luigi
can confirm… this guys wife wants me to call her Luigi
Forever Player 2.
Huh?
I almost explained that, then read your username…
How awesome would it be if it turned out to be no poop guy??!
Training for the escape. Might not be able to safely shit for up to 3 days.
For the uninitiated: https://web.archive.org/web/20230624223444/https://lemmy.world/post/440073
…I’m sorry, what? No poop guy?
Last summer there was a guy asking for advice on not popping for 3 days.
…that explaination only raises MORE questions!
And that sums up the whole poop ordeal.
No, Mr Mangione! A Fortune 500 executive is a living, enterprising creature!
I don’t care…heheheh <ebike swerves onto sidewalk>
Raise your hand if you want to read the suspect’s manifesto!
have a look at this guy’s twitter: https://x.com/pepmangione?lang=en
Can you screenshot it? I’m not signing up for that shithole site.
I doubt they will release it if has any teeth…
They’d have to if they wanna use it as evidence.
in 2 years for the court proceeding?
2 years?
Edit: speedy trials are the burden of the defense. Prosecution/plantiffs have more restrictions. I’m not too sure how New York specifically operates
they will waste all the time they can while mentally and physically abusing him in the system…
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So you’re a killer?
I kill bugs all day long.
One of us.
Him… Him, that guy, him, that dude, me, this guy, that guy over there, the dude next to him, the guy by the bathrooms, and the line beside it, the lady by the punchbowl, I don’t know the pronoun of the dj, but I heard them agree as well.
