Things didn’t end well for the last guy…
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At least half of them voted for that. 🤷
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All TSA agents should strike at the same time those days, wearing green hats and fake mustaches
Nothing would change, the TSA does nothing but harass lawful citizens.
Yeah lol, people would probably have a great travel experience and want to make it permanent. Strikes only work if your job is important to someone, otherwise they work against you
I’m gonna guess that the airports will shut down in the US if TSA is not available. They’re not just gonna let people through without any security in place.
Right, because all the terrorists are just waiting for an impromptu TSA strike.
They let people through unscreened on holidays. I let them buy me out of my ticket on a long weekend once and flying the next day was so nice. A few dozen of us were just waved past security and right to the gate. Just had to show we had a boarding pass. This was at a big Texas airport too.
If the choice is profits or security for customers…
But there’s probably some more systems that prevent it
They aren’t allowed to strike.
Disruption is the point of striking.
They are legally not allowed to strike. They would be fired immediately for dereliction of their position. It’s part of the negotiation when they take a federal job.
If the government is going to be derelect in its duty to pay its workers, then workers can do the same to their positions.
Though I would be looking for another job and quit without notice when one is found in this case. Fuck Musk. No one voted for his ass.
What will they do if all TSA agents are fired tho?
Have you met them? They’re basically otherwise unemployable.
I have a friend who is a TSA agent and he’s a lovely and intelligent person. He took the job because it was the best thing available to him and federal jobs (usually) come with very good benefits and health coverage. He hadn’t seen a doctor for about 6 years before he got the job because his insurance and PTO was so terrible at his last job.
Yeah, there’s always some exception. Hope your friend is doing well.
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The comment about weight was unnecessary, even though I broadly agree with the message.
I was imagining that their point was that police officers are supposed to be fit.
So far they’ve gotten paid every time, just late.
So far…
If my job ever skips a check I’m not coming back until I get it. Fuck that. Everyone not getting paid because of this should stay home and let chaos happen. Cause some real consequences to Musk and the rest of them.
Go to work and do nothing but look for a new job on your phone. What are they gonna do, not pay you anymore?
I’m sorry but, FUCK THE TSA. Go join a real theater group, assholes.
Fuck the TSA, but the people who work there because it is a paying job deserve stable employment like the rest of us. They don’t make the decisions.
But most of the time you can choose your job… Of course working for the TSA might be more comfortable, but what you do with your life is not usually forced.
Yes, you can choose your job, but it is a pretty big pain in the butt to do so. I don’t feel like the “you can just get a better job” argument is a strong one in general.
Does this goes for the police as well?
When they have enough oversight that the “thin blue line” is no longer a thing.
Everyone should know the Chris Dorner story.
Depends how responsible you think the system is for their behavior and if you feel people deserve a second chance.
I think ACAB, but I believe their bad behavior is mostly due to systemic pressures.
People being forced to work without pay is slavery. No one deserves to be a slave, even if they’re normally paid to do something and that something is not useful.
It’s sad that this is apparently a unique take. Sure, “fuck giant corporations”, I agree. But pay the fucking workers who literally do everything.
Nobody is forcing them to take security theater jobs oppressing other people. Even the workers can get fucked imo.
Because it’s so easy to find a job.
I guess if all you do is worship at the altar of the dollar bill and have no morals then this is a logical argument to make.
Or, you know, have children that rely on you.
But yeah, fuck them.
Let them eat cake.They’ll be fine.You’re acting like it’s the only job in the world. Maybe don’t have kids if the only way you can put food on the table is by ruining air travel for 100% of people?
Work is work. They’re patting down people and scanning x-ray screens. If you disagree with the TSA, vote to abolish it. Until then, requiring that department to work without pay only affects the Working Class.
I don’t get to make the decision either way. But I know that they couldn’t be out there humiliating disabled people if working class people refused to take those jobs.
Just because they’re poor fucks like the rest of us doesn’t mean they aren’t pieces of shit, just like the police.
Musk and Trump showed me, that I don’t have to think about being a good enough person… Obviously I easily am (it’s enough not to kill/rape/extort,… who would have thought it’s so easy?)
Sorry, but unemployed TSA should get no sympathy. In fact, if you want to kill government programs, it should be at the front of the line. Pork barrel security theater bullshit.
Fuck the TSA and the idiots on power trips working for them.
It’s not the employees’ fault, saying they should get no sympathy is a dick move.
That aside, I agree the TSA is a great example of the kind of spending that needs cut and the department dissolved.
Have you seen the kind of people these kinds of jobs attracts? We aren’t talking about Starbucks workers, we are mostly talking about people that get off on power trips.
You don’t exactly work together to keep those psychos out dontcha
Yeah I was going to say this. Just because their pay is shit, does not make TSA employees nice people.
How about their kids? Should they get sympathy? Because these people won’t be able to feed them.
Government shutdowns affect far more than just the employees, and in this case those employees are literally being used as slaves. Maybe that deserves sympathy too… unless you think “idiots on power trips” deserve to be enslaved. I don’t think anyone does personally.
Do you have that same attitude towards ICE agents kids?
People lose their jobs all the time and still feed their kids. A government shutdown is a good thing.
Yes, I do. Because people deserve to be paid. Not paying someone and forcing them to work has a name. Slavery.
If you get hired for a job, even if it’s an immoral job, you deserve to be paid. People who work at payday loan places, people who work for TurboTax, people who work on oil rigs, people who work on factory farms and slaughterhouses all deserve to be paid and children do not deserve to suffer because politicians can’t get their shit together.
A government shutdown is in no way a good thing just because certain government departments you personally don’t like will not pay their employees. There’s a lot of other people who are helpful that also will not be getting paid.
Or do you think it’s a good thing to not have things like air traffic controllers and food inspectors? If so, you’re a libertarian and you will be very unhappy with Trump’s dictatorship.
If the government shuts down, it means they go home, not that they’re forced to work without pay.
David Pekoske, the head of the TSA, tweeted that 95% of TSA employees are classified as essential workers and will work without pay in the event of a shutdown. Air traffic controllers are also considered essential employees and would be asked to work without pay. Federal employees would receive backpay after the shutdown ends.
Second time I’ve had to do this in this thread.
For real. Like Fox News pundits, they’re being paid to not understand the consequences of their own work. They’re a drain on tax funds performing ineffective security theater at the cost of convenience, privacy, and sometimes the flights of ordinary people. If you’re TSA, you should consider something else that would be of greater social benefit.
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What are you ? A right-winger
Fuck the TSA it’s a jobs program. They are so goddamn worthless.
Working on oppression is not a job to be respected.
It’s a fucking TSA agent. They don’t really have the power to oppress you, just to annoy you to no end.
Oh so you’re pro-cop?
Being a “worker” does not absolve you of being a class traitor.
Yalls petty ass arguing is a prime example of why the fascists just won. Can’t agree on a god damn thing and just tearing each other apart over petty bullshit
What an irrelevant comment.
I wonder how this will affect unexpected delays during holiday travel.
Badly
I hope that US citizens will remember who caused the chaos out of pure spite when the next election comes around.
The next election will be like the kind they have in Russia.
Not unlikely, indeed. Sorry for you, chaps. We went through this about 80 years ago, and we mostly learned our lesson.
Why would anyone remember? You clearly don’t remember how often this happens.
This happens constantly and 80% of the time it’s republicans playing games (not being unable to agree, but agreeing and then doing stupid shit because of the tea party or Trumpers or whatever)
Remember? Mmmmwwwwhahahahaha!
Not a chance, not with the publics goldfish like memory span and media companies pushing their narrative.
We need to teach him to be scared of us.
Good luck. He can afford a personal army to protect him.
There are more of us.
With military-grade weapons? I doubt it.
With how loosy-goosy the US is with weapons purchasing? There’s a chance.
There’s also a chance that Musk’s security forces will spray bullets into the crowd from sniper positions.
If that ever happened, itd push the guillotines out overnight.
Sure it would. Just like all the other “if this happens, the guillotines will come out” events where that didn’t occur when it happened.
He made a bunch of his cars bulletproof and even a couple that can withstand a chemical attack. I think he’s been scared the whole time.
His personal cars or do you mean the cybertruck? Because if it’s the latter then it’s not quite as bulletproof as advertised.
Yeah him to hold still until the end of time.
“let them eat cake” -Elon Musk
Why do they have to work? Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?
Or just run them without TSA, like we used to before 9/11
Because people need to eat.
Also, some air travel is essential.
Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?
Lol the idea of a medical courier waiting in line at the TSA rummaging through their organ containers because they flagged it sus in the x-ray machine.
Are you trying to imply…that the medical couriers …are transporting …food?
You do know that ‘also’ is a word used to separate two different points, right?
Yeah but implying that medical couriers are selling their payloads on a cannibal black market is juicer than a fat mans liver.
With some fava beans.
And a nice chianti.
I’m not?
They are only doing it in the first place because they need to eat
Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?
The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered settled in an emergency meeting because they have places they want to go
You think they pass by tsa?
No, hence why I said shutting down airports
Yes, but private airports, or airstrips, exist and probably have little to no TSA involvement. Some guy nearby lands his helicopter in his back yard.
You one comment ago:
Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?
You this comment:
The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered
Which is it? Does it make sense to shut down U.S. airports or is that something that wouldn’t happen?
How are you confused on that
If they were to announce airport shutdowns then the budget would be passed to prevent that
You didn’t say announce a shutdown. If you meant announce it and not actually do it, you sure weren’t clear about that since you said it would make sense to do it.
TSA agents are ineffectual on the best of days, but without pay? Between that and the amazing production quality at Boeing I’m quite content to not fly anywhere.
i feel sorry for SNL. how will they survive this?
They may not have to.
But they’re going to get paid when the budget is approved again, right?
It’s a problem for who lives paycheck to paycheck, though
Most people making 50k are working 4th-next-paycheck to 5th-next-paycheck tho.
And Christmas accentuates the problem as we collectively decided that we need to spend a paycheck in useless stuff to gift each other
Just a reminder that Elon Musk is not from the United States.
…which is why he had to buy a president instead of buy the presidency.
He’s legally a US citizen by way of his mother.
Nevermind how much “god damn those evil foreigners are at it again” rhetoric makes me gag. Peter Thiel and Marc Andressen are fully American and they suck just as hard. If anything, the problem isn’t Elon, its Stanford University and the endless line of factory produced insane far-right techbro degenerates that it rolls out which gave us our modern hellscape.
