I opened Spotify this morning to be greeted by a modal popup with a “sponsored recommendation”.
Why am I seeing ads if I’m already paying for the premium plan!? 😑
Tidal is a good alternative. Will have to go elsewhere for podcasts, though.
Use blackhole or newpipe
The biggest bullshit…
xManager if you’re on Android.
no, you pay spotify so they can give Joe Rogan money to make up bullshit every day.
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I have around 5000 songs in a playlist. Anyone got an idea of how to migrate them to just local .mp3 files or something?
Have you looked at spotify-downloader? it uses YouTube, so ymmv for quality, but it could be a good first step.
If you have a shit ton of time and don’t care about mediocre to bad quality for the size, you could do the straightforward 80s way, play and record on “tape” (which can be digital files nowadays).
If you have any way of exporting to a list, then you might have some luck with some console wizardry and yt-dlp. Essentially “search” each title on youtube and auto-download the audio from the first result and try to fill in the track and artist fields automatically.
Any sailor worth his salt needs spend a few seasons earning his sea legs before he can begin to call to claim any understanding of the sea.
AKA, There is no easy way. It will lots of time and manual labor to find all the individual files in your Playlist.
Never understood why anyone would want to rent their music in the first place. As good as the service may be when you sign up for it, you know it will eventually turn to shit as they’re trying to monetize every last cent out of it, and then your only choices are to endure the shit or to quit the service and be left with nothing.
Spotify is garbage. You pay them to basically pirate unlimited music (they pay table scraps). They have no values or integrity, but they do have a greedy business model.
I buy albums off bandcamp instead. Or from the artist’s site directly.
It’s personally a catch 22 for me.
I listen to an absolutely absurd amounts of different artists. A large portion of them simply don’t have albums available for purchase and if they did… I would actually go broke buying all the stuff I listen to.
Every single day I type in a Combo of 2 random letters and numbers into spotify and listen to the first artist I don’t recognize.
It really sucks that Spotify doesn’t pay the artists anything reasonable but I haven’t found an alternative that allows me to consume as much different music as I currently do.
This isn’t even including the podcasts and audio books into the equation.
It’s the same as pirating, except Spotify gets paid.
Why letters and numbers?
Some artists use numbers in their names and adding numbers will change what the search returns sometimes with odd results.
A bit difficult if you want to just stream random music that somehow matches your interests.
There’s other streaming services. I’d recommend any over Spotify.
Which one do you prefer / recommend?
Soundcloud is one! Some artists let you download their music and others don’t. Other than than Soundcloud isn’t open source, I don’t see what’s wrong with them.
I’ve been enjoying apple music on Android (the audacity, I know) mainly for family plan convenience. I used to use Tidal, back when it was the only one offering higher quality audio. Now that’s more common.
However I do miss a few things from Tidal. It had full credits for albums and songs like a CD would have had. And when you’re on a track and go to the artist it will let you pick which one you want if there’s features or a collab. Apple Music will just automatically take you to the page of the first artist listed. So that’s something to consider especially if you’re into hip-hop.
There’s many options though and they pretty much all pay artists more than Spotify does too.
If you’re going to p1r@te, you don’t have to pay sp0tify to do it…
I’m not going to deal with a seed box and a ton of pain in the ass steps in between to listen to music. I’d rather pay Spotify or Amazon or Google or any of the other providers because of the convenience factor.
Also owning music isn’t something I particularly care about. Games, maybe, but music is so broad that I’ll just listen to something else.
WTF is a seedbox?
I have no trouble listening to unlimited music, it’s literally everywhere.
Plus it’s not just about owning the album (although I absolutely insist on listening on whichever device I choose). It’s also about paying the artist.
Sp0tify pays peanuts. When I buy the album from the band’s site or bandcamp they get a hell of a lot more money from me. And I want to support them.
You cannot support any artist through Spotify.
How I have to torrent cause my isp will cancel service over it.
If you’re pirating you’re not paying the artist at all. Spotify is better than pirating.
I don’t pirate. I buy albums.
You’re advocating for piracy explicitly
If you’re going to p1r@te, you don’t have to pay sp0tify to do it…
There are patches like spicetify which can do that and way more than just adblocking with a ton of customisation if that’s what you’re looking for
That doesn’t really fix the “somehow matches your interests” part of their need. Your torrent software isn’t able to track your listening habits and recommend things that other people with similar habits also liked.
Pandora is still around and does a decent job finding new music based off listening habits.
Greedy business model seems slightly unfair tbh. Spotify struggles to remain profitable and they’ve only raised their prices by like $1 in a decade
yeah, it’s not spotify’s fault that splitting $10/month between all the music you listen to doesn’t pay the artists very much.
Yea, companies that pay more typically either charge more (Tidal) or have the advantage of a massive profitable company backing them (Apple Music)
Just because they’re incompetent doesn’t mean they’re not greedy.
Also, executives can still be cleaning up even as the company struggles to profit.
Executives being greedy isn’t the same as a greedy business model
This makes no sense. Greedy execs are the ones who would implement a greedy business model to pursue their greed.
What part of the executive compensation package are you taking specific issue with exactly? From what I could see, they’re largely paid in stock and the CEO hasn’t taken a bonus since COVID.
Or are you just talking executives in general and not looking at what Spotify does specifically?
So they’re incompetent on top of greedy. They’re selling access to everybody’s music and paying peanuts.
Maybe they shouldn’t’ve thrown so much money into the pivot to podcasts, then thrown a bunch of money at that meathead idiot.
Yeah that $100 billion they gave Joe Rogan is where your payments go.
they didn’t give Joe Rogan 100 billion dollars you dunce.
I think it was 1000000 trillion bazillion dollars, you drooling braindead goon.
This comment says a lot more about you than it does about me.
Remember when you called me a dunce? And now you’re self righteous? Anyway, goodbye.
No company in their right mind would pay one person $100,000,000,000! Come on!
Bandcamp is DRM-free, so whatever you buy there, you truly own it. Unlike on most other platforms.
DRM-protected music stores went extinct over a decade ago, following Steve Jobs’ open letter to the music industry on the topic. By 2009, iTunes music was completely DRM-free and alternative stores had to follow suit to remain competitive.
Wow, you are right! I was confused about iTunes, because it seems to require an app, but it is DRM-free and so is Amazon Music. That’s great! So I guess only Spotify has DRM.
All the streaming services use DRM, it’s just download stores that are DRM-free. Which makes sense, when you buy an album, you should own it.
I see, that makes sense. But I also think that every content that you have paid to access should be DRM-free, so even in a streaming service.
Honestly it’s a shame that most good music pirating sites have gone to the shitter, literally the only way to actually pirate and own music I could find via searching vigorously was through youtube to MP3 converters.
rutracker and soulseek are good options for finding music.
Napster was so much fun back in the day.
Music ads are nonsense
I pay for Spotify
thats where you made a mistake
Arr.
I take it you don’t know about spicetify and xmanager… I don’t pay for Spotify at all and get all of its features for free lol
Can you download for offline?
o_O
What’s the matter?
O_o
It’s funny because the radio industry used to have this pay-to-play model. It began to be called “payola” and triggered a huge controversy including congressional investigations and an FCC crackdown. Yet here we are, with the same shit happening again in digital format. This is honestly worse than payola since radio was free and this is not. I don’t like paying to be advertised to. Considering leaving Spotify; there seem to be more and more shenanigans like this popping up, AND their subscription price just increased!
Once in a while here, for the rest no ads in the slightest here in the Netherlands, it’s all Gucci.
The Wikipedia article says “payola” is an illegal practice and that text links to “commercial bribery” - so are they starting to get bribed into doing stuff like this too even though it’s a paid service? That “they want all the money” statement must go deeper than I thought.
I work in the radio industry (digital side) and have to sign a payola contract every year.
If you don’t own the music/games/movies you pay for, you are always the product.
You NEVER own the music/games/movies you pay for. Even when you have a physical copy.
You have a license, not ownership. You’re always the product.
You have a license, not ownership.
This is nothing but bullshit copyright cartel propaganda. Quit spreading it.
It’s is not a propaganda, it is just what copyright law is. Unless people waiver their rights specifically, purchased music is always licensed to you.
Meaning you cannot share the file to anyone else, because if that was the case anyone could buy it and share it with anyone else, making the concept of purchases void.
The only fair alternative would be to make the music a one time purchase of
Price per user * Number of Expected usersso that the artist gets their fair money and people can buy it by pooling money.That is stupid, but that’s how copyright is.
I don’t own the copyright, but I can use it offline with any software I want on any device whenever I want. I can lend the physical disk to a friend and if I don’t like it or get bored with it, I can sell it. That’s what you can do with music CDs and you used to be able to do with PC games before they contained Steam’s DRM.
but I can use it offline with any software I want on any device whenever I want
Tell that to all the VCR tapes in people’s basements. Finding a working VCR player is nigh impossible these days, and it won’t be too long until optical media is the same. Last car I bought didn’t have a CD player. DVD drives are disappearing from computers. Game consoles a generation or two from now will be download only.
Content owners can’t wait until the only option we have is to stream.
You don’t have to use physical media. You can buy digital DRM-free music and games online and store them on your hard drive like many people do. I was only using music CDs as an example, since they don’t contain DRM.
Instead of just stating this as the inevitable future, why not join us in realizing that this is a problem and push to do something about it? We all realize that physical media and ownership of content is going away, but we can push back by not buying into subscription models and buying what physical or at least one-time-purchase digital content we can while it is still around.
Your new car may not have a CD player, but external disc drives are still readily available. Buy up a CD collection (of lossless, DRM-free music I might add) and rip them all to FLAC files and keep them on today’s dirt cheap giant hard drives. Now you can play them on your phone, car, laptop, Steam Deck, retro iPod, smart fridge, etc.
Same goes for DVDs and Blu-Rays. You have the option to convert them into whatever format is needed for the device you want to play them on because YOU OWN THE MEDIA and can do what you want with it.
Be the change you want to see. Cancel Netflix and Spotify. Buy CDs and DVDs/BDs. Build a local collection and have DRM-free content on all your devices that will be available to you for the rest of your life rather than for the rest of the month.
I agree, but movie DVDs and Blu-Rays contain DRM. It’s probably easy to break it (which is illegal btw) and get regular files out of it, but the practice of adding DRM is unethical and we shouldn’t reward companies that do it with our money. It’s also possible to record your screen when watching a movie on Netflix (at least when using GNU/Linux), so you would get a copy of that movie, but we need to have higher standards.
I think if anything contains DRM, you should either not use it or pirate it instead.
Saying I don’t own my copy of Pokemon Gold or my vinyl record collection is like saying I don’t own the books in my bookshelf.
I guess there is indeed a limit to my freedom to how I use them - I cannot write the words down one by one and start reselling my copy. But that’s a pretty messed up concept of ownership where I probably don’t even own the shirt on my back.
I think with Spotify the artists are the product.
