Only? Wtf
It’s still the majority opinion.
19% don’t care.
the word you’re looking for is plurality.
Majority means over 50%.
If 19% don’t care, then it is acceptable to them.
They are not upset it happened, they accept it. They do not explicitly support it tho.
Add the 19% to 41% and get 60% do not have a problem with a broad daylight execution of a healthcare CEO.
So if you want to be pedantic, email the person (or ai) that generated the headline.
But 60% didn’t have a problem with it.
51% think he should have been set on fire.
When I was young, I wouldn’t have found it acceptable. It doesn’t matter how badly you’re treated, you need to find a peaceful way to resist. It’s something drilled into my and my peers’ skulls since I can remember.
After seeing little progress (but mostly worsening) with polite requests and peaceful protests, I really can’t figure out how it can be unacceptable.
A lot of those kids probably just haven’t gained that wisdom yet.
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There’s a middle ground between no violence and shooting someone. I’d find it acceptable if we’d all get some pitchforks and whips and send them into the diaspora. Some light lashing, some expropriations, that I could really enjoy.
Right. Thing is the ones in power never limit themselves to such kid-gloves in response.
We are literally nothing to them.
The problem is “we”. It is by design that the people are kept from organizing. Demonizing of unions, immigrants, the poor, people of different faith, and people with different political views all pit us against each other.
Even peaceful protest is now largely impossible. Cops subject peaceful protesters to kettling, mass arrests, etc. They spy on protesters with electronic tracking, use agent provocateurs to provide excuses to disrupt non-conservative protests, and work overtime to infiltrate and disrupt peaceful protest movements. Hell, Occupy Wall Street was subject to a mass FBI-coordinated national crackdown. They don’t even let us peacefully demonstrate anymore without putting our lives and freedom at risk. They casually assault peaceful protesters with chemical weapons.
In the US, peaceful protesters have to hide their faces like the protesters in Hong Kong against the CCP.
There is also something to be said about how we’ve failed to unite as a people. There is no solidarity between people of different classes. The more we push for unity the more we find out how much subjugation is acceptable to the average person.
I know the problem is lots of different things but at the end of the day the biggest thing, to me, is we don’t feel the consequences. Not yet, not enough. Unfortunately, with climate change, if you feel the consequences it’s probably too late. Here’s to hoping something else breaks before the planet does.
Fuck. So much truth here. I can’t even think of a thing to add.
We need to bring back tar and feathering.
That’s used as a joke but it wasn’t really all fun and games. The hot tar could and did kill or disfigure people.
I am permanently disfigured due to their negligence. One of my best friends was killed by their greed.
Publically disfiguring/killing a few CEOs would be awesome. Not only would it save lives, but also it would be hella fun.
The point was not to kill them in this scenario though…
No, the point was not to shoot them.
A few CEOs dying from tarring and feathering would just be a happy little accident.
For one thing, you can sympathize but not find it acceptable.
A person has to ask themselves the question of does this person help or hurt humanity, and if you look at this company denials since he took over he definetely hurts humanity as a whole.
Not every human life is valuable or worth keeping. We need to treat our weakest members of society better, which is elderly, disabled and children. He hurts those people the most, when he should’ve trying to protect them. He chose to chase profits over human life.
This is simply a logical consequence. Income equality now is FAR worse than the french revolution, I’m just suprised it took this long.
some murderous douche bag asked that same question of a brave doctor doing late term abortions and had the same conclusion as you.
But then again I’m also against the death penalty, so, maybe different strokes different folks.
Every life is valuable and sacred. Every death a tragedy. But I will not cry when tragedy comes for those who grow rich by permitting tragedy.
“Permit” even seems like a generous word in this case.
Yeah that is shocking. My guess is lots of people declined to say for obvious reasons. The number has to be closer to 80%
Neutrals are 19%, so even if we assume half of those are actually ok but didn’t say so, that’s still only 50,5% acceptance
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What type of browser doesn’t support JavaScript?
Every browser supports turning off JavaScript, I believe
It’s not about “supporting Javascript.”
If a webpage does not require javascript to function, then it should not have javascript on it.
News articles do not require javascript to function.
I’ve been trying to tell ya’ll that you dudes are the Cringe-Fringe for worshiping Luigi.
TBH I find his death acceptable but I would never be the friend of the killer.
Still find it funny as fuck you’ll shit on supporting Luigi but didn’t back down from defending actual Nazis a few months back
Fucking weird priorities from you
Never once have I ever defended actual nazis.
41 percent is fringe? You do know how percentages work?
24% said somewhat acceptable. 17% completely acceptable.
This is different than worshipping. Just because someone points out an ugly truth about the bubble we can be in here, doesn’t mean you have to call them a bootlicker.
Edit: they edited out ‘bootlicker’ to ask a rhetorical question, still missing the point that the meme levels of worship found on Lemmy is fringe compared to the rest of the country, let alone the world.
Only 41%?
We still have work to do.
That low? That is a shock.
That low?
Yeah that’s the shocking point for me
I’m of two minds about it. Half the time, I want to build a statue of Luigi
The other half of the time, I’m feeling the Tolkien quote, “many that live deserve death, and many that die deserve life. Will you give it to them?”
In other words, at no point do I feel that Brian Robert Thompson didn’t objectively deserve to die. He is objectively doing more good for the world as worm food than he did as a living man. My only question is on the ethics of anyone actually killing him. On one hand, no one should have a right to make that call on their own. On the other, it’s not like he was ever going to face justice any other way.
I wonder if this dilemma is reflected in this poll. You can believe that killing the CEO was unacceptable, while also believing he absolutely deserved it.
Well said.
I don’t usually wish cancer on people, but if I had to choose, I’d probably have wanted him to go this way than by vigilante justice.
It has begun a very interesting national conversation, though…
There’s a teensy bit of data massaging to make the approval rating appear lower… in my opinion of course.
The respondents were asked to rank “acceptability of the killers actions” on a scale of 1 to 5.
Assumin’the average “young voter” views gunning strangers down as:
[1.very unfavorable]
(You would, if asked about murder, say it was bad As a rule. right? I would too. Ya know, unless it was justified.)
Looking at it that way, the same data looks a lot different suddenly.
33% young voters still think the killer is completely unjustified.
7% think there was some justification
19% are undecided if the CEO deserved to die for what he did
24% think the killer was mostly justified… But have reservations
17% believe he was 100% in the right
I got a little free with the interpretations but you get the idea, You could decide to frame the data this way too. there’s a saying: statistics don’t lie but statisticians do. Here’s my 100% true alternate title using the data but presented with the story I want to tell:
67% of Young Voters at Least Partly Approve of Killers Actions
Selective selection of selected data by billionaire controlled media still can’t get below 41%
It’s awesome how willfully they exclude or manipulate in attempt to soften the information.
“Don’t completely disapprove” might be better phrasing
I’ve been trying to tell you guys this is an echo chamber on the issue.
The fact that politicians and executives consider this a “shock” is part of the problem.
I’ve heard a saying that if you do anything enough, it becomes normal.
Yeah, good habits n such are important to cultivate until they’re second-nature.
Since Thompson was shot, first in the back and then again as he fell to the ground, a number of social media posts from people saying they do not have sympathy for his death have gained popularity.
I bet if that was the question an even higher percent would agreed.
Ten is a number. So is one, or zero.
Agreed, but I’m not sure I follow.
They’re saying “a number” of social media posts are filling in the picture they’d like to paint. It’s a more technically honest version of Trump’s “a lot of people are saying it” type of statement.
Ah, that should have been clear to me, thanks.
The little tell that gives it away is the leap of logic where people were okay with killing the CEO who was killing people, but not if he fell down first, for Christ’s sake. No one thinks that, except someone who’s not very bright, in an office somewhere, trying to come up with something plausible that would pluck at the heartstrings of all the people he’s trying to pluck at the heartstrings of.
Any CEO (actually, any rich person- the ticket the more this applies) that doesn’t donate obscene amounts to good (good as in “would probably be hated by MAGA” or “politically neutral”) charities can be “acceptably put down”.
Even more so if they are actively causing direct harm to their customers/clients.
Just 41%?
The pain felt in the US is still not high enough.
You better believe they skewed this poll to get the result they wanted
I’m willing to bet that most people are indifferent, end of the remainder the vast majority are in support of the killing
Cannot believe what our nation is coming to! How the hell is it under 50??
I imagine it’s from people who just don’t watch the news. They don’t know how evil that CEO was, so they blindly apply common sense.
That was my gut reaction right after it happened, since UHC is my insurance company. But I’m just disappointed people are either lack curiosity, lack empathy, or actively support the true evil here.
That sounds extremely low. What young voters are they polling? The Amish?
Many things people find despicable are common place in the fog of war. I will never agree with gunning down a poor person no matter what they did, justice is served for the poor daily on a cold lead plate. For the 1%??? Who can we call when insurance kills our loved ones? When Dr’s make intentional mistakes and your loved one is dead? Can you call the police and expect them to go snorkeling to find evidence? Or can you maybe expect a call in a few weeks with a maybe update? We have seen how they respond when one of their masters is murdered. Until there is actual justice for all citizens, there will be no peace. Eat the rich.
I’m not prepared to say people can’t deserve being gunned down based on socioeconomic status, but I am all for the rich getting their fair share of the gunning down. Preventing active murder or grievous bodily harm, harming children, etc.
There is too much gunning down, and especially for unreasonable things, but I won’t lose sleep when those in power effecting and enforcing the injustice get theirs. The phrase “just desserts” exists for a reason.
The poor can’t even get justice wrenched from the poor, much less the rich.