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    Just like how gambling isn’t a mental issue if you keep winning … strange isn’t it?

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    As a parent of a child with ADHD, I’m cautious about using stimulant medication unless it’s clearly the best course of action. My main goal is to help my child succeed, and academics is a big component of that.

    I see many of my son’s ADHD symptoms in myself, and I believe I may have also had/have ADHD. Despite this, I’ve been successful in my life. This personal experience makes me hesitant to automatically turn to medication as the solution for my child. I prefer to explore other options first, unless there’s a strong reason to consider it, such as struggling academically.

    When my son entered high school he became mature enough to participate in the decision-making process regarding his own treatment. Because of that it was easier for me/us to get him a prescription of Adderall and feel good about it as parents.

    Edit: since it seems to not be clear, my son is on ADHD meds and has been for the past three or four years. We talked to him about it and he prefers taking the medication and has had input in the dosage that he’s taking.

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      Seriously. Get them meds and a proper therapist ASAP who has a clue about ADHD. While their brain is still plastic you can train it early with the hope of having a future where coping mechanisms are already there and potentially reducing or getting off their meds entirely. Once you are an adult, it is over. Opportunity lost and time to learn the hard way.

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        He’s on meds (has been for 3 or 4 years), and he has an ADHD diagnosis… What’s the therapist for? I haven’t seen any actual issues that warrant a therapist, what are you thinking I should be watching out for?

        Right now he’s doing pretty good in school, he’s a little less social than I would like, but that’s nothing new. Other than that, he seems a sharp well-rounded kid without any behavioral or emotional issues.

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          Couldn’t think of the word, but not a “talk” therapist. Behavioral or cognitive therapist. Basically, they fill in the gap that medication doesn’t and can reduce your dependence on medication later in life. They give you strategies on how to handle the emotional dis-regulation, motivation issues, lack of dopamine, etc. You don’t need to be in “rough” shape, or have a really bad case, or anything like that. Medication only helps so much, so getting those strategies in early can make a big difference. Even as an adult it can help and may be something you want to pursue yourself. Half the battle is understanding what behaviors you exhibit is due to ADHD.

          I wish I had been diagnosed early in life and got the help I needed, but with the stigma, poor family, and lack of healthcare, I never had a chance. I missed the part where they are a teenager. Please don’t assume they are fine because everything looks good on paper, so to speak. Best thing is to present the option and continue to support them and yourself.

          I hope you don’t take any of this as me saying you are a bad parent or anything like that. I don’t mean it that way. I am really passionate about it and a lot of the stigmas against medication has done a lot more harm than good.

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      Unsolicited advice incoming:

      Help your kid get a diagnosis ASAP and try to find a medication that works. The drugs are just a tool, but your kid won’t know whether they help without trying them.

      At some point, they may find themselves unmedicated and down in an ADHD hole — having the diagnosis and knowing which medications may help is crucial to dig out of the hole.

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        Counter point.

        The medication worked. Suddenly i could pay attention and my grades went up. And those where the main “problems” adults perceived.

        My parents where skeptical about medicine first but opted to try because the backlash people gave me for lacking an attention span was affecting me hard. They ultimately believed they where doing the right thing.

        I slowly become less social then i already was, lost my appetite, stopped feeling many emotions in general and eventually sank into a deep twisted depression.

        I was unable to understand it was the medicine doing this. I was unable to communicate any of it properly because i thought what i was (not) feeling was just normal life and puberty. It was not.

        I know and respect that those drugs can help some people. But they completely destroyed me, afterwards it took many years of controversially self medicating with cannabis to restore my original self and feel my emotions properly again. (The mail reason I started was because i read it could be used for adhd/autism and my first experience left me feeling normal and able to take public transport without suffering intens social anxiety)

        I fully agree on your diagnosis part though. And i al also not saying medicine cant be the correct tool but its definitely not a clearcut choice.

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          The lack of emotions is awful. Going to family events or friends parties and it might as well feel like I’m at the grocery store. People tell funny jokes and I make a weird mouthy smile to pretend I’m normal.

          They might make it easier to do work you otherwise would not want to do, but the cost is absurd in my opinion.

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      This is probably a good call. In the first place a common problem with stimulant meds for adhd is that tolerance goes up quickly, requiring the user to increase their dose over time. The dependency is hard to break. I was prescribed on it for only a few months and made the mistake of abruptly stopping taking it - and even that was enough to go through one of the worst depressions of my life.

      There is also evidence of heart risks with long term use, and given that cardiovascular disease is already the western world’s number one killer, another blow to our hearts is that last thing anyone needs.

      And then there’s the regulatory and supply issues. Pharmacies often struggle to keep enough of a supply to meet demand, which is the worst thing for a substance with such a high-risk dependency situation. Plus because it’s a schedule 2, you must see a doctor for every refill.

      And of course the insurance companies make all of this all the more ugly. Really not worth it.

      Edit: oops, didn’t catch the last part. Welp, hope it works well for them.

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        Can I add, anecdotally, how many times ive seen people who take adderall daily try another stimulant like coke or meth and say something like: “This doesnt feel much different than adderall at all,” or “I thought this stuff would be stronger.”

        Its like people taking oxycontin but thinking heroin is this scary potent drug. People have no idea what they are playing with.

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        My experience is completely the opposite of what you describe, not that I disregard anything you’ve stated. I’ve been on nearly the same dose for nearly 40 years and do not perceive any changes in the effect I receive. And I’d rather live without my medication while waiting on temporary shortages than live my life without it.

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          Hey if it works well for you, that’s great. I hope it keeps working well too.

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    Same with autism. It wasn’t until I had my master’s degree in math and teaching high school at age 39 that it ever occurred to me that I was autistic. A colleague and I had a mutual student, and he told me that he thought she might be autistic and that he was going to refer her to the school’s diagnostician for testing.

    So I found myself curious about the symptoms of autism, because Rain Man was my frame of reference. I researched the symptoms in the middle of a Geometry team meeting, and everything I read had my sitting up further and further in my seat, until I just blurted out “Oh my GAWD…?!” My colleagues asked what, and I said “Y’all…I think I might be autistic?” They looked at one another quizzically, like they were shocked at my personal revelation. One of them replied, “Wait…you didn’t know?!” I said, “…what, you DID know?!?” She was like “Yes! We all know that about you! You seriously didn’t know? 😂” HELL NO I DIDN’T KNOW!

    I immediately called my mom on the phone to tell her that I thought I might be autistic. “Yyyyyeah…your dad and I always thought you might be.” HOLY FUCKING SHIT MOM WTF??? 😲😲😲WHY DIDN’T YOU EVER GET ME TESTED?!? "Well, you always made such good grades that we just didn’t think it mattered that much.

    I have since been diagnosed with ASD Level 1, and I think back a lot on my life lived. I marvel at how much easier my life would have been if I hadn’t had to develop all of these coping mechanisms myself. I did well in school despite my autism. I earned two degrees despite my autism. I hold down teaching jobs despite my autism. The biggest problems I’ve had in my life, though, have been personal relationships. I can’t imagine how much richer my life might be right now had I known all along how to exist as a self-aware autist in a neurotypical world.

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      I don’t know the popular opinion on this, but I personally think you did a great job learning how to be your best self without having a label. Everyone is unique and everyone will have to learn how to do things their way, having children labeled as something when they already do well might just make them feel more alienated, or be like “I’m X that’s why I’m like this” instead of finding their way to be productive/have fun.

      Of course it’ll help people struggling but not knowing what’s wrong. But if you’re a type of person who can feel/see what works for you and what doesn’t and find solutions for yourself, you might even make your quirks your strength. One frequent thought I have is, how many of the scientists or philosophers in the past were actually autistic? Or had quirks that made them who they are, but would definitely be “problematic” when they were young by today’s standards.

      TLDR: My opinion is everyone is unique, using your quirks to do things others can’t is what makes some people great. Making everyone fit a “normal”, and medicating/… everyone else doesn’t seem like a good idea.

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        Or…and just a thought…maybe people know their own truths better than you ever possibly could, and when they tell you that early diagnosis and therapy would have helped them immensely, you just believe them?

        Also, I got diagnoses for Generalized Anxiety Disorder with Panic Attacks as well as Major Depressive Disorder, and having those diagnoses as a teen might have helped as well, ya know?

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          Is it? Why does having a label for people treating you differently help with that? It mostly just turns into an excuse for others to use thank being a helpful label.

          I think labels seem progressive and helpful but are mostly used to further divide people and make in and out groups.

          If you know you struggle with people being told that it’s your fault cause you are genetically different somehow even though it seems ever so common and spectrum based does nothing to help you deal with people.

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            Everything is used to divide, someone autistic will behave in ways that “other” him regardless of labels, and people who want to hate are going to keep hating.

            You don’t need them, don’t use them, but they absolutely are helpful for many people. We are nowhere near a society inclusive enough to make labels obsolete.

            Beside, dealing with people’s attitude isn’t the only issue. Neurodivergent people will compare themselves to others on their own, and will struggle with their self image and self-esteem. A diagnosis will help with understanding themselves and finding better strategies much quicker.

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              Chicken or the egg? Do we stop labeling people and start working on their shared and singular problems to become inclusive or do we need to become inclusive first to start being able to see people as people and work on their shared and singular problems?

              I think the answer is we just start doing it anyways. And don’t wait for reality to shift to some easier form to do things we should.

              And I know that people compare themselves to each other all the time, I have done it and will do it to but now I try to do it when seeing if they are content only. If they have more in their bowl than me it’s not my concern, I am trying to focus on those that don’t have enough. It’s a pipe dream that labeling people makes them better at coping. People still need the compassion of others.

              Chicken or the egg do we wait for a compassionate society to start being compassionate ourselves?

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                I’m happy you found your way and again, don’t use labels if you don’t want to. Start building the world you wish for, by all means.

                You keep missing or ignoring the point that your experience is yours alone, other people find comfort, identity, community and understanding in their labels and that’s their right.

                Labels are a tool, how they are used depends on the person but they don’t intrinsically imply either discrimination or lack of compassion. Be compassionate, we agree that’s the way, but as far as I’m concerned that includes letting people be with their labels when they want to, as long as they’re not being dicks about it.

                I think we agree on the main point of wanting a more inclusive society, one that hopefully doesn’t need labels, eventually, but it doesn’t look likely it will happen soon, and as long as we live in this one each of us copes the way we can.

                Happy holidays friend

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            Here’s how a label can help: I did receive a social worker diagnosis (not medical) in elementary school, but my parents had a very similar outlook to you and didn’t do much for helping me learn how to handle it. I “knew”, but could never understand why I alienated everyone. I couldn’t manage my anger, because every time I met a new kid, it would get combative quickly. I felt I was in a position to have to earn massive respect from everyone to treat me decently, and therefore got controlling when working with others. This pressure also extremely heightened the natural tendency to procrastinate associated with autism (Note, all of this is afterthought analysis not what I thought as a kid).

            College and then post grad, I had to confront these issues on my own with only poor coping mechanisms I had developed growing up. I had to educate myself about autism, and I had to spend a lot of time reflecting on myself and figuring out how to manage my worst impulses. If I had been educated and informed as a kid, I wouldn’t have needed to struggle like that for decades.

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              Sure. If people had taken the time to work with you and find your issues and solve them you would have had it better.

              That doesn’t require the label it just makes it easier to look up the information for it and see what others have done.

              The association of the label doesn’t help you it would be people helping you. Labeling the pain can help you recognize it, labeling the person puts them in a group.

              You also have no idea how the part would be if it was different because it wasn’t lived. It’s an easy fantasy rather than living in the present. You would have likely still struggled just differently. So what do we do now for those that still are? Do we label them or are we helping them?

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            Do you know why humans are as advanced as we are? It’s because we can learn from each other and build on what people before us have done. A label helps you connect with people who have the same struggles and learn what strategies they used to cope and live a fulfilling life. It’s a way to avoid having to reinvent the wheel.

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              That has nothing to do with labels. That creates group think and tribes.

              Knowledge is not labels on people.

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                How do you find the people with the same struggles as you without some common banner to look for? And just naming symptoms without some root cause is probably not going to be helpful. Treating leg pain from a broken bone is different than treating leg pain from a bad cramp. Similar for a lot of social/mental challenges.

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        Would you tell someone who doesn’t have legs that they’d be better off without a wheelchair because then they’d be free to “find their own way to be productive/have fun”? Or is this reserved for disorders that you can’t see?

        My medication doesn’t fundamentally change who I am, it just makes me less shit at the things I am most shit at, so that my daily life is less of a constant struggle.

        And sure, it’s possible to imagine a world where having ADHD wouldn’t be such a problem, just like it’s possible to imagine a world where not having legs wouldn’t be a problem. But that’s not the world we live in!

        Try not paying your bills and telling your landlord and credit card company that it’s fine, you’re just not one for rigid schedules and you’re finding your own way. Or instead of doing your job at work, do something completely different and see if your boss accepts that you’re just quirky.

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          I don’t know if you read it, the second paragraph goes with something like: if you’re having problems, then yes, if you’ve found ways to deal with things and be happy/productive then no need to labels things to be “normal”

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            If you do not have problems you will not be diagnosed. The diagnose criteria literally say that you must have problems.

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      Fuckin Boomers

      “We were focused on ourselves, so we just left you to twist in the wind.”

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          It’s not specifically, but much of the cultural inertia that we struggle with today is a holdover from the outsized Boomer population and their influence on America for the last ~55 years. And Boomers, as a cohort, are markedly narcissistic and apathetic to the plights of others, while displaying significantly lower levels of empathy and/or understanding. They are largely uneducated, but obstinate that their outdated information still holds validity, and when pressed to change, or reform, typically respond with threats and attacks. This, while gaslighting those with greater knowledge than themselves- Dunning-Kruger personified.

          So it’s not necessarily limited to Boomers, but this scenario absolutely describes a commonality of experience for those with Boomer parents, particularly of Millennial-age.

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      A friend of mine got diagnosed first with add and then autism in her 60s. She felt relieved because she finally understood herself.

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        My diagnosis was based on a number of tests. One such test was related to speeded processing, basically how quickly a person’s brain analyzes things and makes decisions. It required me to look at a series of pages (one at a time) featuring a particular design for about six seconds or so, and to then identify on the flowing page the same design from a group of four, five, or six similar designs (there were more to choose from as the test went on). If I got one wrong, I’d have a second chance to choose the correct image. Two wrong answers in a row and the test would be over.

        I was told at the beginning to not feel bad if I didn’t finish the test because no one ever does. Well, I did, and very quickly. I made one mistake on one picture, but I’d had it narrowed down to two images, so I was able to quickly recover when I made that one mistake. After a while, after every correct answer, the doctor’s eyes became wider and wider, until I finished and she just said, “Welp…that was THAT test!”

        When I got my test results, it had me well into the 99.9th percentile. Upon informing me of this, she asked me “Does this surprise you?” to which I replied no, not really. I’ve always felt like I think WAY more quickly than the rest of the world. And it is both a boon and a burden. It serves me well and will continue to do so in the post-apocalyptic times to come.

        But it’s also caused me to queer relationships because I don’t think about things before speaking sometimes, and - as an autistic person - connections with others are sometimes few and far between. So having confirmation now that my brain really does work this way helps me feel empowered enough to work on myself and that tendency to think/act/speak too quickly, because the relationships I have with people are immensely important to me.

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    questionable correlation between the words “raw dogging” and the pfp. Having said that, this only applies to school, IRL, its shit.

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    Pretty much, my mom didn’t notice that I had adhd. But my little brother was a poor student, and ended up on several different medications for his adhd… meanwhile, my mom made fun of me for having like 5 water glasses scattered throughout the house all the time bcz I forgot I had a water glass, and where it was.

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    Wait till you see what they let you do if you’re good at sports.

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        Cheerleaders, teachers, whatever you want. The football players at my high school could do no wrong because they won state once.

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    Does anyone else have the incling ADHD and PTSD are the same thing? Human brain thinks it’s in danger and kicks into survival mode

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      Adhd kids get told negative things way more often that other kids, and that is traumatic. Undiagnosed Adhd leads to anxiety and depression because of it, which makes it very similar to ptsd. But since it’s chronic and over a long time period, it is separate from ptsd, as the cause is Adhd, and not the trauma itself.

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    As long as you’re not disruptive, they don’t give a shit.

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      And if you are disruptive, they diagnose you with odd and beat you to make you shut up. You can’t win

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      Turns out, the teachers just do their job. And most of the time just the bare minimum, just like almost everyone else.

      And if you want to teach and a student is a pain and hindering/distracting everyone else, then you kinda have to intervene. If the student isn’t motivated/concentrated its easy for the teacher to just say that the student doesnt wanna learn so he gets just bad grades.

      At least thats how I see it sometimes.

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      Truth. I remember being in school in the 90s when they were giving Ritalin to everyone who didn’t want to sit still in class. Shit was wild. And then you have me, with a healthy case of ADD but since I wasn’t a social butterfly, that just meant I wasn’t motivated.

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        Ritalin made me a zombie. Thankfully Adderall existed. I wish I could get some as an adult. That shit made me superhuman.

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        Oh man, one of my people! My parents, my school, my teachers just watched me fail with an under 1.0 average, while I scored 95th percentile in every standardized test. I was lazy, undisciplined, and unmotivated, and it made me hate myself.

        I feel like this would be a red flag now, but back then, even the school counselors were only worried about my impact on other students. Since it was minimal, they let me just stay there and fail… my best friend, who’s every bit at sharp as me, got Ritalined into fucking oblivion and put in remedial classes. Jokes on me tho, he got a diploma from HS.

        GED is just another standardized test. If I knew how easy it was back in my junior year, I would have saved myself a lot of time and trouble.

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          Dude, all the same here. I tested insanely high on that aptitude test in elementary school and was placed in their version of honors. But the teachers would get pissed because I wouldn’t do any homework, yet somehow aced all my tests and scored minimum 90th percentile on all standardized tests. I just paid attention to the lessons but had no interest in the busy work.

          I ended up just doing the CA proficiency exam and got out of high school on my 17th birthday, and then got a diploma at 25 to make my mom happy.

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        Consider that the 90s was when most early Boomers had their kids in school, and of course, they didn’t want to deal with their children’s problems. So yeah, throw some drugs at them, the teacher is always right, and shut up now- Mommy and Daddy are focused on themselves.

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      And if you had ADD, ODD, and breaking the curve grades, they took every opportunity to lock you up in jail that they could.

      At least that’s what happened to me.

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    Dude, so fucking real. I just got denied meds because “If you can learn a big part in a play, then you must have very mild adhd.”

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      I’m convinced that most psychiatrists and psychologists have control issues that they satisfy through their practice. It makes them feel powerful to be able to gatekeep, judge and implicitly control their patient’s life and get paid for it.

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        I wish I could talk to someone who actually knows what adhd is like, and not just some boomer with a fancy piece of paper

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        Man if I was a doctor I’d probably get my control kick by giving people what they want and making them happy.

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        Can you though? At least in most of the US if you aren’t already getting psychological help, you have to pay for it yourself, and will just have to figure out a self medication schedule that works for you.

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          I pay for both a psychiatrist and a psychologist and while my psychologist knows for sure I have ADHD neither of then can prescribe me stimulants so instead I’m on Lexapro so at least I don’t have to care.

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            Right but your scenario presumes a great deal, and millions of Americans can’t pay for therapy, nor the medicines required to live a better quality of life. Even people with “good jobs” can have awful health coverage with enormous deductibles and other hoops to jump through.

            And the kicker is that we pay more than any other industrialized country and get the worst ROI because it’s all been allowed to be run by private corporations, for maximum profit.

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    This is true for every psychological condition and has only tangentially to do with grades. There needs to be a burden of suffering (German: “Leidensdruck”) in order for a psychological condition to be considered a “problem” that needs “fixing”. As long as the the person doesn’t have this and society doesn’t force anything on that person (because for example they broke the law), there is nothing to act upon. This is also why some famous and/or successful people are crazy. The FBI has done some investigations into the concept of a the corporate psychopath, which can be successful managers, which are undiagnosed psychopaths.

    PS: I am no expert

    https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/the-corporate-psychopath

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      It’s crazy that the system allows so many people to fail for the exact same reasons that don’t impair the rich in any way shape or form, and those people blame their own debuffs rather than the system that failed them from birth.

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        It’s a mix of both. I suffer from ADHD and have been clinically diagnosed. If I were an upper class citizen, many of my problems would cease to impact me. I wouldn’t need to be attentive for 8 hours a day, wouldn’t have to worry about money and due dates. I was labelled a “gifted child” when I was young, but all that meant was that I never learned to study and organize, and growing up the school system failed me so hard (+ the corona pandemic).

        I’m pretty good at logic and inventing, as well as in the arts. Why, oh why can this world not appreciate and support people like me? Prolly smth about greed and sociopathy I guess. Anyway I’ll continue fighting and hope my GME stonks will someday heave my family out of this mud.

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      It’s an easy scapegoat in a world that wants more from them than they can provide. It makes you compare yourself constantly to the best performers and tells you that you are not enough and then offers a thought that drugging yourself just right would make you as happy and successful as you believe you deserve to be for trying so hard.

      It’s a shame life doesn’t care and it’s not what life is about.

      Not that people shouldn’t be able to get help when they have legitimate issues but we could be a lot more welcoming on those differences between each other with a different culture but that requires changing yourself and others in a way that is likely not possible and the drugs are easier.

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      In case you aren’t aware and interested in hearing an opinion on that statement, here it goes.

      A lot of people might find it offensive and dismissive. The obvious issue with it is that it is extreme by including “everyone” and “all their failures in life” and saying that one issue is blamed for it entirely. That is just not true. I understand that it could be taken as a figure of speech and that the reader is to understand that not literally everyone and all of their failures, but I disagree with even a figurative interpretation. In my experience, few people attribute most of their lifelong issues to ADHD. Out of that small set of individuals that do attribute issues to ADHD, many of them are valid, while some are likely removing any accountability from their own choices. Yes, it is likely that some people avoid taking responsibility and therefore seek unnecessary accommodations from others for their lack of effort by placing blame on a mental health diagnosis that they might not even have. However, it is my belief that the majority of people don’t do that. ADHD is a mental health condition/neurotype that affects every single aspect of a person’s life. A person isn’t ADHD in only school or work. They are ADHD when they complete daily tasks, socialize, read a book, follow instructions, visit the doctor, place their keys down, etc. ADHD truly does affect every area of their in a world that is designed for people that are not ADHD, so they end up violating cultural norms and performing subobtimally in comparison to their peers. When someone with ADHD states that their entire lives are affected by it, they are not exaggerating. Stating that everyone blames all of their failures in life on ADHD is dismissive of their difficulties and can appear aloof, insensitive, privileged, or malicious. Statements like that can drive away understanding, compassionate, and caring people, limiting your interaction with individuals that have those traits, leaving you more exposed to the kinds of individuals that would use mental health diagnoses to avoid responsibility for their failures.

      That’s only my opinion, so do what you like with that.

    • @[email protected]
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      24 months ago

      What do you blame your failures in life on? Because I guarantee you’ve got something you complain about.

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    I don’t have anything and I never will because I’m never getting tested. I did get “classified” and never had a fair chance at a real education. Even failure meant I needed to be in the program and every success showed how well the program was working. I grew up thinking I would only be a drag on other people. In high school, I decided to start feeling better about myself. Something those years of being removed from class so I could have meaningless conversations with the school therapist never could. I thought the school would support my efforts to fix my education, but I only got pushed down, told “I would be happier without the risk of failure”, lied to about classes being full, withheld test results when I tried testing into better classes. I would like nothing more then to get the diploma revoked and seeing as how I never fulfilled the basic state requirements, I should be able to, but like with most things, the written law doesn’t matter if no one is willing to enforce it.

    Fuck my school. Fuck the “team building” exercises they made me do. Fuck the “opportunities” they provided for me.

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    Very true but you also learn to life with it med free, which is very valuable and healthy.

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      I probably would have been better off maintaining Vyvanse into adulthood, but I quit taking it as soon as I had the ability to make the decision to. I felt dull, emotionless, my appetite sucked. Yes, ADD sucks and it has caused issues in my personal life, but I am who I am and I accept those parts of myself. Would my grades have been better in college? Would I have been better at maintaining social events? Sure. But sometimes you just have to build good habits to overcome whatever you can.

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      Some might, but many do not. Constantly burning out, knowing that you’re underachiving (even if other do not see it) and struggling with handling it all can and does make people end up depressed, extremely anxious and even suicidal. If one doesn’t get the help they need, many doors can close even permanently.

      Some people really need the medicine to function.

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        14 months ago

        I think some forgot the premise of the post, was specifically for people who are not underachievers yet have adhd. This what I am refering to.

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          I don’t think that’s the premise of this post. I think the post is talking about people struggling with adhd, who’s symptoms & struggling are being ignored just because they’ve somehow managed to keep up good grades.

          They might also be “gifted” which helps with getting good grades up until some point when it all falls down, as it all just is too much. Also the responsibility and work on other areas of life start requiring the limited capacity to focus and execute necessary home upkeeping, studying & all the other things in life.

          Getting the needed medication or even just the diagnosis and the understanding of oneself that comes with it can save a person from a lot of unnessecary suffering.

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      Yes, being stressed out about your own apparent inadequacies for your entire life sure sounds like a healthy way to live

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          54 months ago

          Not being able to complete most simple tasks on time isn’t me. That’s the ADHD, and I hate it.

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            Ok then that’s something you want to work on and I hope you can get past it but that’s not a out other people.