Biden could pardon him
And my cats could be appointed alternating empresses of Romania.
Nah he’s not a white collar criminal who destroyed the lives of millions.
Biden might be willing to posthumously pardon Brian Thompson for his insider trading crimes though.
Can he? Honest question. Can he pardon someone who hasnt actually been convicted of anything?
Yes, but accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt, which may have other consequences.
accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt
Logically and in the eyes of public opinion? Most likely. Legally, though? Nope
You’re right about there being consequences, though: you can’t invoke your 5th amendment right against self-incrimination for a crime that you’ve been pardoned for.
So technically being pardoned for the federal terrorism charge COULD make it more difficult for him to defend against the other charges, but I’m pretty sure that not even a NYC prosecutor can argue that the murder charge is independent of it…
Moot point, though, since Joe Biden is as likely to pardon Luigi as he is to drop trou and smoke a joint with his ass during a WH press briefing.
I don’t see why not. Ford pardoned Nixon for things Nixon wasn’t convicted of.
Kill them, too.
You mean to tell me that going from the street to trial in less than a month, from what would normally be a single murder charge isn’t the normal way of things??
He’s only made his plea. Yes, that part happens quickly.
EDIT: Look at the upvotes on the parent comment. Y’all are really dumb enough to think this man is going to trial right now.
It’s misinformation, it’s ignorance, it may even be a lie. Downvote this crap.
thank you for having some sanity….
i’m pro luigi, anti health industrialization… but yes obviously the doj will charge you for shooting someone.
the terrorism charge is probably where the pressure wentNo, it’s not obvious. The DOJ rarely charges anybody with murder. It’s almost always charged under state law, in state courts. Sebastian Zapeta-Calil hasn’t been charged with a federal crime, and probably won’t be.
the interstate aspect of it makes it kinda federal…
Zapeta-Calil came from out of the country, so the same applies to him.
that’s not how it works….
luigi, allegedly, traveled across state lines for the sole purpose of the killing, and immediately left the state.
Zapeta-Calil was living in ny and committed a murder while he was there. He didn’t travel there just to burn someone… he was there already and did it….
but god damn that’s a horrible way to die. the worst i can imagine except for some deliberately slow torture….That’s not unheard of in other cases, and the DOJ doesn’t charge the killer with federal murder charges. Rittenhouse, for example. The story here is that the DOJ did something unusual under pressure from corporate interests.
The state is just the armed wing of capitalism.
“Those who make peaceful reform impossible make violent revolution inevitable.”
Bought and sold
I’ve heard people suggest that school shooters stop butchering our kids, and instead throw their lives away doing something useful that will have them remembered as heroes.
I’m pretty sure they were going to charge him with it without them.
That’s fine, I’m pressuring the neighborhood schizophrenics to directly pressure healthcare CEOs.
Pressure is fun, right health insurance leaders? It can make all sorts of fun things happen. Brian
knowsknew this, if only for a few seconds.I agree with you about CEO’s but please stop using schizophrenic people as a joke or prop.
Right? They probably mean Dissociative Identity Disorder too.
Idk usually that’s the case, but when I think “mentally ill in a way that’s susceptible to being pressured to kill rich people” I’m more inclined to think paranoid schizophrenics than did folks. Still shouldn’t use them as a joke like that.
This reminds me of a neat history lesson:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-the-tragedy-at-buffalo
History doesnt repeat, but it certainly rhymes.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”
It wasnt Czolgosz or Mangione that sat at the reigns of a murder machine sanctioned by baron-owned-state monopoly of violence.
Goldman, for her part, had such a big heart for those driven to desperate acts.
Throughout her detention and after her release, Goldman steadfastly refused to condemn Czolgosz’s actions, standing virtually alone in doing so. Friends and supporters—including Berkman—urged her to quit his cause. But Goldman defended Czolgosz as a “supersensitive being” and chastised other anarchists for abandoning him.[75] She was vilified in the press as the “high priestess of anarchy”,[76] while many newspapers declared the anarchist movement responsible for the murder.[77] In the wake of these events, socialism gained support over anarchism among US radicals. McKinley’s successor, Theodore Roosevelt, declared his intent to crack down “not only against anarchists, but against all active and passive sympathizers with anarchists”.[78]
Berkman wasnt shit. Emma was a real one
Of course they did, wouldn’t expect anything else.
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Oh, look, they did a corruption
For the rich, that’s an “oopsie 🤭”
For the poor, that’s a paddlin’.
it seems dangerous that they would explicitly name Lisa Monaco, Benjamin Mizer, and Elizabeth Prolegar as the corrupted DOJ people who support the health insurance cartel over the citizenry.
Privatization of the government working well
Merrick Garland showing he was always a Republican.
Drain the swamp so the water feature can be filled with leopards.
