Hope you had a great christmas
My leek+mushroom stuffed seitan roast was delicious, antibiotic-free, and cruelty-free. So tyvm, I did.
How did it taste? Do you have a recipe I can follow? I don’t know hoe far a vegan ingredients shopping run will go where I live though.
If you get a lot of specialty items (like faux cheeses and meats) it won’t go far. If you shop like normal but just skip the animal products it’ll almost surely be cheaper than regular groceries. You can make your own seitan very easily, there are many YouTube videos showing you how. It’s just a simple dough that is washed and kneaded to develop the gluten. You can also make your own tofu, but tofu is dirt cheap unless you get fancy stuff so I recommend just buying it.
The gluten doesn’t have a very strong flavour on its own (it basically tastes like unflavoured bread) but it picks up whatever you season it with very well. The recipe I make goes for a typical poultry style seasoning with nooch and veggie broth. The stuffing is very umami with a little brightness from the lemon. It’s very yummy.
Here’s the recipe I use for the roast:
https://www.theppk.com/2011/11/seitan-roast-stuffed-with-shiitakes-and-leeks/
And I make the gravy from this recipe:
https://www.rabbitandwolves.com/vegan-crispy-black-pepper-cauliflower-steaks/
(Which incidentally is also a very good vegan holiday recipe in its own right!)
You might have trouble finding vital wheat gluten. I’d recommend checking either health food or bulk stores, or just buying it online. Everything else should be pretty easily accessible.
While you can make the recipe with the wash-the-flour method from regular flour, it’s already a bit of a challenging recipe, and you have to tweak quite a few things to get the proper wet:dry ratio, so I wouldn’t recommend it, especially for your first try.
I normally also do a side of mashed potatoes, and then some other veg like carrots+parsnips, or Brussels sprouts.
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Going to have to try that.
Thanks, greetings from Chile x.x
Your country is really long. Mine’s pretty long too, though not as long as yours.
I’m not so sure… let me see yours
It’s one of the dark blue ones that are longish
Still looks cool, pretty nice
I thought the US would be way up there given the intensive livestock industry there. But I guess we all underestimated the pig industry in China. They have multi-storey slaughter houses for pigs over there!
Really, why?
Like why not process rural, it has to be cheaper to just use rural land and go horizontal than vertical.
We used to do vertical in Chicago. You drive the livestock to the top floor, butcher them there, then use gravity to move them around.
Do they get born on the first floor?
Can someone explain the disparity between Australia’s and New Zealand’s use of antibiotics in meat?
Probably exports. Small population + large number of exports, it’s possible the per capita scaling skews this.
In addition to what others said, they likely have different percentages of livestock. Beef vs. Dairy vs. Sheep, etc
Different countries, different laws.
Wait, is this really true? I always assumed US was on the bad side of this trend
Americas is low because they are cheap bastards, not out of any concern for food quality or animal welfare.
Russian meat be like:
“I just want to be clean!”
Thankfully I live in a country where they use it very sparse. Unfortunately, not alle the meat I consume is comming from my country…
Mmmmh… Antibiotic with taste of chicken… Yummy…
Thank
this should be adjusted for amount produced … in chile the antibiotic usage is high but we mostly consume meat from Argentina and Brasil
But it’s per kilogram of meat (produced).
China builds workers, they really don’t care what happens to their people after prime working ages of 14 to 35, ergo they pump their livestock up with as many antibiotics as can produce the most protein, and leave any issues of antibiotic resistance to … later (never)
if they aren’t careful, they might cause a global pandemic… wait a minute
or somethin
how much antibiotics should i take if i go to china? im around 70 kilos
Depends on how long you want to remain in Chinese prison
Depends, do you plan on being eaten?
I get the color coding, I don’t like it.
Aren’t colors fun
Brazil certainly should be broken down by state, I imagine the USA as well.
My state in south Brazil has VERY strict controls on animals entering the state so we can use less antibiotics and other stuff.
Then you’d likely have to do that for every country with subdivisions that affect the chart
Are the nordics low because of cleaner feed operations, or are the nordics zero because it’s been banned?
Easy to not use any when you can just freeze bacteria to death lol
Agriculture isn’t terribly industrialised in Sweden and Norway. So smaller farms means fewer animals get infected when something is going around. And fewer practises like weaning piglets early and giving them prophylactic antibiotics.
And the projection makes them look big on the map.
In Scandinavia they have a policy to minimize the use of antibiotics, even on people, to prevent antibiotic resistance.
Which has two sides to it. It is very hard to get antibiotics unless there is a clear sign of a specific infection going on, e.g. after a tick bite those red circles on the skin.
In any other case just having high fever for a bit does not prompt doctors to check for bacterial infections. Instead they ask you how long you got that fever and if you say anything lower than 6/7 days they simply tell you to come back after 6/7 days if the fever isn’t gone still. Only then they run a blood test and prescribe antibiotics, should you have a bacterial infection.
I understand the idea but you could probably test much earlier and give the antibiotics, if useful, earlier so that people can avoid feeling miserable for just a few days instead of a whole week. It also just prompts people to lie about how long they’ve been sick, just in case.
I mean I’m not sure I see anything wrong with what you’ve described.
My friends not in Scandinavia used to have slight fever for a couple of months before going to a doctor to find out it was pneumonia. I wonder, how Scandinavian doctors react to slight fever, not a bad fever, and if they send you back home then this an example of what’s wrong. Other than that it’s likely a good idea to try to make one’s body heal itself, if the immune system is not compromised
I mean having a slight fever for a while is not something to be concerned about or honestly often not something to go to a doctor for, unless it lasts or worsens. Though if your friend waited a couple of months then your friend might be a bit stupid.
Oh, yeah. Exaggerating your symptoms is the only way to make doctors take your condition seriously. Unless you are a pregnant woman, or a cancer patient. Nordic healthcare is sometimes frustrating in small ways.
Still sounds leaps and bounds better than the US system that my family and I have been ground through for these past several decades.
Luigi started the work, y’all need to finish it.
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Sure, but that wasn’t the question here.
