Way to stick it to em!
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This is the point though. They have beefed up my Epic Games library to the point where if I got banned from Steam, I would have a viable fallback.
That cannot be understated. It has a network effect and makes adopting it as a new platform versus a legacy one with two decades behind it, far easier to adjust to.
I love that at least someone is really trying other than MS with their poorly supported windows games store attempts.
It’s pretty easy to avoid being banned.
No shit.
You have to be a dick to even be remotely worried about this kind of thing.I just like to own the things I own. And I’m more worried about someone hijacking my account because they want some bullshit inventory item or something than getting banned for something toxic. Account theft is sadly still pretty common.
You don’t own anything on Epic either. Epic is actually significantly worse for people losing their accounts and having no way of recovering them.
If for some reason I lost access to my Stream account I would just pirate copies of the games I’ve already purchased.
The same applies for Epic as well regarding piracy. Again it’s just a matter of diversifying.
If I had to rebuy 100% of my games, Id never adopt Epic at all. Atleast this way the library has something of value as an alternative without costing me a fortune.
Absolutely. But if someone got you in one of those steam inventory scams or stole your access token, it sucks if you lose your entire game library and have all your eggs in one basket.
So having a bunch “backed up” so to speak with Epic gives some peace of mind. VAC bans aren’t common for most users, but they do make mistakes sometimes.
It will always be weird to me that microsoft sells some games both on the microsoft store app and the xbox app, but other games exclusively through the xbox app.
I’m thinking even farther back to their wretched Windows Live and then Games for Windows Live platform (now dead). MS is one of the biggest companies on earth and couldn’t find a cohesive way to migrate that game ownership forward.
Only 200? Try harder, noob.
(I’m at 410, and my Epic library is now three times the size of my Steam one, lol.)
There’s no way I’d catch up to my Steam library, there’s like 1,200+ games in there at this point. 2nd biggest is GOG with ~300 but I’ve been using Steam since HL2
And thats exactly why Epic is untrustworthy. Its like a shady guy on the corner saying “Hey i will give you 500 bucks if you just do this easy little thing for me. Will be done right away no worries”.
Epic needs to pump their MAU stats to look like a legitimate platform. They know what’s going on and are happy to pay.
What I don’t know is what they actually pay the publishers.
That makes GOG untrustworthy as well, I guess, since I have 300 games on there, but never bought one.
With GOG you can download all game files to your local storage and play them even if GOG goes to shit. Thats the difference. But yes Steam is the same as Epic in that regard.
You commented on a post about a dude who never bought from Epic but still has 200 games there, that Epic is shady for doing this.
I said by that logic, GOG is shady as well, because they also give away tons of games.
Just saying that labeling them as untrustworthy, just because they give away games, doesn’t make sense. Steam was never mentioned, or the business practices of different storefronts.
Epic doesnt give games away. They give temporary licenses to games away which they can always take from you. Epic uses this to get people onto and dependent on their platform so they can then extract money from them. GOG has no way to extract money from people like that and has no leverage against their customers.
What are you even talking about? Why is Epic “extracting money” but GOG is not? Do you mean if you lose your games on Epic you will buy them again on Epic? Nobody does that, and it doesn’t happen in the first place.
It’s their marketing budget they’re spending on that
And never plays any of them.
The whole UX is just so bad
Don’t need a complex UI to list some games for 5 seconds before I start playing them.
Use Heroic. It’s GPL.
If this added itch.io it’d be a fantastic filler for managing all the non-DRM off-Steam stuff.
Or Playnite (MIT license) which aggregates all your libraries, not just Epic.
Heroic is Epic, GOG, and Amazon Prime.
Maybe don’t give Bezos more money, but if you have Prime alreafy anyways, then you get 4-5 games for every one that Epic gives away. Some are on their Prime service, but most of their codes are redeemed through GOG or Epic.
That looks nice but it looks like it’s for Windows- only. Heroic is cross-platform.
Install, launch from the shortcut on the left side of the main screen. How much easier do you want them to make it?
I got the tomb raider games and the screaming baby package delivery hideo Kojima game I can’t remember the name of right now, and some stuff I’ve never played, and that’s it. Worth it.
Death Stranding. Good game, I bought it on steam on discount and it’s great.
It gave me a new way to look at things, like good art does.
You can use this FOSS tool to automatically claim those games.
https://github.com/vogler/free-games-claimer
Some even work pretty well on Linux using the Heroic Launcher.
…are you Jesus?
Thank you, shared with my friends who claim free games!
That’s actually pretty awesome, thanks!
Does that still work? Last updated over a year ago and the free games are usually protected by some rather creative captchas.
Works for Prime and GOG. Epic sometimes works outside the docker container, but sometimes you still get a CAPTCHA still. There’s an active discussion for fixing Epic inside a docker container.
lol, it was last updated 3 days ago
Never had to fill a captcha to get one of the free games
I didn’t until I started using a VPN.
I’ve never seen captchas like that before, I wonder what kinda weird shit the next generation of captchas will be once we’ve trained the machines to solve these?
I used it on deck a few months ago
What the hell, I had no idea such a tool existed… I do not intend to use it… But it is so cool regardless.
Would this require using the games with the Epic launcher?
I have 0. Also interesting choice of words with “owns”.
Not to mention “stick it to 'em” when he’s doing exactly what Epic hoped for — engaging with their platform. It doesn’t even matter if you’re using Hero Launcher or not even playing it, it’s a +1 in their system and that’s what they care about.
I mean if you’re going to be like that, you don’t own any software.
exactly
I too have basically all of them. A few have caught my interest on PC. More than a few were a big pain to get working on Steam Deck even with Heroic Launcher.
Yeah, but then you’d need the epic store/launcher, so…
There is legendary which is command line and Heroic which is legendary with gui without telemetry from epic. Heroic also does gog but gog doesnt require a launcher anyways.
Funfact, I have restricted work computer (windows). Certain websites are blocked and installing anything requires remote access by IT to enter admin password (they dont give admin rights temporarily). But it has pip installed.
- pip install legendary
- legendary install app-name
- legendary run app-name
You can also create a shortcut and set the target as ‘legendary run app-name’. I also have over 300 games I collected from epic. I don’t condone gaming on work time, but it feels nice I can run something other than browser games during compiling and other downtime.
Yup, I’m at 372 free games on epic, plus 3 bought ones, and 2 key activations. It’s amazing.
Karma farming, much? lol
Yeah and owning the privilege to have games on Steam is any better.
Karma doesn’t have any use on Lemmy. You can’t even see the numbers any more.
I bought Alan Wake 2, and glad I did. Accidentally decided to buy Red Dead redemption 2 on there because of a discount code making it much cheaper than steam a couple of years ago.
Huge mistake. I added it as a non-steam game so now to launch Red Dead redemption 2. I need to launch steam which then launches epic which then launches Rockstar Games launcher which then launches the game.
Regretting a decision doesn’t make it an accident.
You can skip one step and have just have many steps as if you had bought it on Steam, just launch it from the Epic launcher directly, ta-fucking-da
I see the Valve bootlickers are out in force. How dare Epic fund indie games, what a bunch of bastards
Valve bootlickers
It ain’t like that, kiddo. I support other stores like GoG, too. I just refuse to ever use EGS unless they completely change.
Eh paid exclusives are (one of) the reasons I’ll never get a game from them. Fuck lil Tim
You realize paid exclusives gives a guaranteed income to devs so they don’t have to rely on the Steam gamble?
Would you work for your employer if you had no guarantee you would get paid and you had to wait years for your potential first paycheque?
Paid exclusives ruin PC gaming, only devs who don’t believe in their game sing an exclusive contract. They’ll learn the hard way for sure :)
Bullshit. The only way it ruins PC gaming is by forcing you to use a launcher that isn’t Steam, you will never complain about all the games that only release on Steam.
18k games released on Steam this year, how many did you hear about and how many were actually successful?
There’s tons of good games that just won’t sell enough for the devs to recoup their cost just because no streamer decided to play them. Go read on indie devs communities what the experience is like when releasing a game you put your heart and soul into only to get no coverage and no sales.
The only way it ruins PC gaming is by forcing you to use a launcher
You said it yourself, it ruins PC by forcing they crappy launcher
Games on epic are either released there and forgotten by many or given away for free one day
Tell me what Epic does better than anything else, I’m waiting.
- 88/12 is not a valid point because 88 of 1000 is way less that 70 of 1000000
- Free games are not valid since I can get them for free anyway without needing a launcher 🏴☠️🏴☠️
BuT tHeIr CrApPy LaUnChEr!
Try to come up with something a bit more original. You don’t give a crap about exclusives as long as they’re on the platform you like, it’s pure hypocrisy.
Piracy vs gifts aren’t the same thing.
- 3 Years for shopping cart
- Can’t add a simple “move games to disk”
- If the launcher somehow forgets what games you have installed you have to redownload the whole game again, no simple “scan to find installed games” (No, tricks to do it don’t count)
- They got caught sniffing your steam friend list
- Scummy “Reviews” system where you have to choose between refunding the game or hoping to have a chance to review the game
- “Review” system so barebone you can’t even write your own reviews but pick from predetermined ones
- “Customer support” so dogshit they can’t even help you if someone hacks in your account (Steam does it pretty well)
The list goes on… There you go your “try to come up with something more original”
You’ll defend every shit out of this because you like to suck lil’ Tim cock :)
Not only that. Epic takes a smaller cut, and when a game goes on sale or is free that comes from Epic’s cut, the Devs get full pay.
Something that the bootlickers always seem to forget.
You’re saying studios like EA don’t pay their programmers unless people buy the game?
I’m talking about smaller studios but even for big studios, guaranteed income instead of gambling can be more interesting for certain projects.
The logic is still the same.
It’s like selling your product at Costco instead of Walmart. Costco will rent you the space to sell it for a certain amount of time and you are gambling on the fact that you’ll make more revenue than the rental cost you, Walmart buys your product and sells it for more. Hell, Walmart even pays for exclusive products as well so the example truly fits. It doesn’t prevent companies from selling other products at Costco, but it gives them a guaranteed income from one source.
Oh, so only indie games should be exclusives, then. Not games like Control 2.
The analogy I used makes more sense with indie games because I’m talking about having a job (small scale), but the same logic applies to companies.
A company like Lockheed Martin will do R&D to come up with new engines and hope to recoup their cost by selling the technology later on, they’ll also sign governmental contracts with guaranteed payments as the project moves forward. You need a mix of both.
If a company makes bad games, they should go out of business and their developers should work for better companies.
Remedy doesn’t need to worry about that, because they make good games.
- Steam: 1325
- GoG: 174
- Epic: 406
Epic and GoG I’ve not bought a single thing from either of them, that’s all free shit. For Steam, most of that is stuff that’s been accumulated from Humble Bundles and just from having an account for ~20 years now. If I were to just quit my job and game full-time for the rest of my life, there’s probably more games to play in my collection than I have years left to live.
