• Franzia
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    292 years ago

    Been an avid Youtube viewer since the very beginning. Now, I’m paying for the site and using a bunch of extensions just to get a worse experience than I was getting on youtube 5 - 10 years ago. After seeing all of my favorite content become unprofitable and die off, I am so ready to jump ship. I think in the immediate future, Patreon and Nebula are providing the alternative that will get creators paid reliably.

  • @[email protected]
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    592 years ago

    Aw that’s so cute, they think they’ll be able to stop adblockers from working for more than a few days. Just like everyone else before them. Good luck with that guys.

  • Tygr
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    22 years ago

    That’s the nicest, most PC way of calling people pirates that I’ve ever seen.

  • TheEntity
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    432 years ago

    The ads are not the true problem. The tracking and profiling is. They keep the rhetoric about the ads while forcing both. I’d be kinda okay with just untargeted ads. Maybe not fully okay but I’d be far more willing to tolerate them. This privacy violating thing the modern Internet made a norm? Hell no!

  • @[email protected]
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    1042 years ago

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “allowlisted”. Did someone forget “whitelisted” is a thing, or is that term finally cancelled?

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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    152 years ago

    Haha! Forced ads = no watchie-watchie. I have played this game with YouTube before, and the adblockers always win.

    • strawberry
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      82 years ago

      I don’t think corpos ever win in the digital world. as long as there is paid content, people will find a way to get it for frwe

      • Draconic NEO
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        12 years ago

        I wonder what’ll happen when the bubble bursts this time around, will it be as bad as the Dot-com crash or worse? (Enshitification is the reaction to not having enough money and needing to try to make money quickly to pay back investors).

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Or, you could buy YouTube TV, which gives you YouTube Premium as a undisclosed bonus I’ve found. A great option because it helps content creators and allows you to cut cable. I may have some bias on the topic of paying for media content services, but in general pirating hurts the creators. I hate that I’m old and wise enough that I might have been more receptive to Metallica’s arguments during the Napster era. I do feel though that it is in the best interest of creators for certain content to be previewable. The problem with YouTube video monetization are that most are not going to be rewatched.

      • Jeff
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        12 years ago

        Wait what? I have YouTube TV and pay for YouTube Premium so would love to not do the latter. Where might I find this undisclosed bonus?

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          I simply find that when I am logged into YouTube with my same account that purchased YouTube TV I receive no ads. I am not using an add blocker or anything. I assumed that was because of my purchase of YouTube TV. It might be a bug with my account because I still get a splash occasionally to buy premium, however no ads ever.

    • MentalEdge
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      742 years ago

      You know why it’s called revanced? Because youtube came after vanced. They wont ignore it forever, unfortunately.

      • @[email protected]
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        92 years ago

        What are they gonna do? Revanced is just a patcher, unlike the previous version that fully distributes modified YouTube apk. There is a separate repo that has patched YouTube apk, but if that repo got taken down, the revanced manager still live on.

      • @[email protected]
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        202 years ago

        I know if I’m not wrong vanced got in trouble for using YouTube logo and reverse engineering the YouTube app. Revanced technically not breaking any law as it not directly modifying YouTube like vanced.

        • MentalEdge
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          122 years ago

          Yeah, but YT can change the terms, and now blocking ads, its clear they are stepping up the aggression in chasing profitability.

          • ares35
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            22 years ago

            they’ve captured as many paying customersproducts as they could under the ‘old’ system, so now they’re trying to squeeze more cash out every other source they can.

            • MentalEdge
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              I don’t fully agree. I buy premium. As long as they keep it ad-free, it’s a vote for a better business model, for platform, creator, and user alike. YT has had that option for years. Up to now, it was essentially voluntary.

              It’s time to leave the ad-funded internet entirely behind us, and move to platforms like Nebula, Floatplane, Proton Mail… And yes, even YT Premium. I’m just keeping my fingers crossed they don’t pull a hulu and try to double dip on both a sub and ads.

              If that happens, YT is dead to me.

              • @[email protected]
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                32 years ago

                I mean even if you pay for premium, they don’t give you the option to not have shorts shoved down your throat. This is a “feature” that has been added after premium was a thing. It’s also not too hard to figure out shorts are an optimized method to harvest more user data on interests.

                While I don’t disagree with leaving the ad-funded internet behind us, I also don’t trust Google to be a pioneer in reducing ads on the Internet— considering they’re an ad delivering company above all else at this point.

                • MentalEdge
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                  No one said we should trust a corporation to do anything, much less google. I’ve ditched chrome and encourage others to do the same every chance I get. But I also think Premium, YT Music, Android and Pixel, Google drive/office suite, are all reasons for google to rely less and less on their ad business.

                  The challenge they now face, is the unwillingness of customers to pay. Due to google having relied on ads for so long, people are more than used to accessing their services free of charge. Just looking at the ad-block-blocking situation, they demand that they be able to do so. All the while rejecting even the ads.

                  Ads will never be the long term play. Sooner or later legislation will step in, as people who actually use the internet and it’s services like youtube, start getting into government.

                • @[email protected]
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                  I don’t have premium and I don’t see shorts either. I’m not sure if some of my addons is blocking those or I just clicked “not interested” enough many times.

                  EDIT: Yeah. Enhancer for YouTube blocks them

              • @[email protected]
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                42 years ago

                I just can’t agree with the $73/month price for something I rarely if ever use. My grandson loves watching Elmo’s world on it on the tv, ads aren’t too bad yet, get like 10 mins of video before 2 30 second ads. But I refuse to pay google any money, they make enough off the android phones and all their ads they shove down your throat via websites, YouTube and google search engine

        • MentalEdge
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          Oof, one day soon, we’ll all be watching torrented rips of youtube videos, like we already do TV shows.

          • @[email protected]
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            72 years ago

            I just use yt-dl to download anything from youtube. It cuts the commercial out during download

          • mistrgamin
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            232 years ago

            I’ll cherry pick every youtube url and download 40 gigs of mp4s off real-debrid before I see another fucking grammarly ad

      • @[email protected]
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        YouTube Vanced was shut down because they tried to monetise it by releasing their own crypto NFTs, sparking Google to shut it down. I think for now Revanced is safe.

        • Czarrie
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          332 years ago

          Every great project always seems to have that one dude who is like, “But what if crypto?”. Really hoping we are moving past that phase.

      • @[email protected]
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        542 years ago

        The thing is that Revanced follows a new distribution model. Rather than distributing a modified app, they instead distribute patches for the normal YouTube APK so that the user modifies the app on their own device. Thus, ReVanced never distributes any of Google’s IP. It’s kinda like game modding. ReVanced will be a lot harder for Google to kill.

        The one downside for ReVanced is that it’s harder for ordinary users to install, so that will limit its popularity.

  • Cora
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    542 years ago

    I have YouTube ReVanced on my phone. If YouTube ever defeats uBlock Origin on my desktop, I just won’t watch YouTube on desktop anymore. I refuse to watch or view ads.

  • Privacy AdvocateB
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    542 years ago

    That’s did news. Perhaps after mastodon grow massive thanks to Elon, and Lemmy grow thanks to reddit, we see peertube get his time to shine thanks to Google… #fuckupyourcompanyFAST

  • MeanEYE
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    562 years ago

    Just yesterday they stopped allowing me to see home page and recommendations unless I turn on watch history, which I am not doing ever. So they can keep forcing my hand and see how far it goes. If anything am stubborn enough to enjoy this kind of petty behavior from major players. They keep thinking “oh they will just do what we ask them to”, but I’ll do the opposite out of spite. I’ll just use !videos or similar communities to find my recommendations until the day comes where I stop using it completely. I quit Facebook this way, quit Reddit and Twitter, quit WhatsApp. Keep at it guys, let’s see who’s more stubborn.

  • @[email protected]
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    422 years ago

    Sucks but on the flipside it means that I’ll have more time for myself.

    I already spend less time on social media because R/all sucks balls and lemmy doesn’t have too much content. I don’t have any other social media.

    I also don’t have cable or pay for streaming services, so I found a replacement in the form of YouTube and Spotify (podcasts). I’m ok if these options go away.

    There are a lot of hobbies that I want to do and the less distracted I am, the higher chance that I’ll choose to do them instead of dicking around.

    Tldr: brings it on!