cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/23788061
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/170743
And yet when we pointed out that Project 2025 talked about banning porn, a lot of people didn’t think it was serious. This is just one way that such an idea can play out.
I don’t think porn could ever be fully banned - prohibition doesn’t work. (Besides, I already made a promise to create erotic art specifically in order to spite any such enacted law.) But considering how modern porn and its variety has enabled many people to acquire niche preferences, this is still going to trigger a challenging time for a lot of people.
If this plays out like it’s played out in other countries the only people who will actually be prevented from accessing pornography will be lawmakers, because they’ll be the only people not tech savvy enough to be able to circumvent the restrictions.
They’ll just offer their nephew some robux and a job in state legislature in exchange for a couple felonies
Would you like to share any of your art?
Yis, share art.
Picture conservative white southern men who never got their GED trying to frantically Google what a VPN is, because they’re missing their interracial porn before the Klan meeting that night.
Interracial gay porn. FTFY
Probably with femboys too
Furry interracial minor femboy porn. We all know all of that is popular with conservatives.
They won’t have public issues for them being a minor, that’s just expected at this point.
“Boy, I hope nobody finds out that I’m really just attracted to feminine aesthetics. They might make fun of me.”
I live in a state where it’s not banned and it’s so annoying when iCloud Relay routes through one of the states in the South. I need to turn iCloud Relay off and proceed.
This is why VPNs exist. Happy surfing, folks.
I hope PH is putting a list with the names of the representatives who are responsible for this on the home page for those states. With phone numbers and mail addresses of the reps offices.
e621 was blocked in my state and… then they realized the law wasn’t being enforced and unblocked themselves
Maaan, you just made me look up what that was 😭
Bro this is on you, you had enough context clues to know this wasn’t worth pursuing
I know, just curious.
LMAO
So people better understand: Pornhub did not get banned by law. There is a law that requires porn sites to verify age with IDs in many southern states. Instead of complying Pornhub location banned themselves.
giving a scan of your ID to the shadiest people on the web doesn’t seem a smart idea.
also: it’s not impossible for little jimmy to get a copy of his dad driving license…
honestly that’s based as fuck. I wouldn’t think the largest porn website would have the ethics to lose out on that much money.
I work for municipal government in Texas and I’m not allowed to write down or take a picture of someone’s DL number or date of birth, which is a bitch when we’re trying to cite a contractor named Jose Gonzales for illegal construction.
This rule is a trap. They are supposed to do it but there is no way to do this reliably (not even mentioning privacy issues).
You left the most important part out; why is PornHub not complying? Understanding the situation requires knowing the very real concerns about privacy and data security as compliance requires keeping copies of IDs on file for verification.
IOW: Pornhub refuses to attempt to secure the PII of everyone who wants to visit the site. It’s not within their scope and any website that agrees to do this bullshit is suspect as fuck.
Afaik Pornhub is based in Québec, which has data privacy/protection laws through law 25 (French, will need to translate it). I’ve had some experience with it on some projects in the last few years, would not surprise me if that was contributing to the decision as well. I’m assuming they would still need to adhere to law 25 and whatever local laws in locations they operate in, could totally be wrong there.
Poilievre has stated he wants to introduce the same age verification laws, so it will be interesting to see how Pornhub reacts to those laws once they are introduced especially since they’re based in Québec like you said.
Personally, I’ve been stocking up, because you never know when there’s going to be a drought and it always helps to be prepared in life. I think we are in for some very dark years ahead of us.
It’s hilarious to me that you’re stocking up porn for the dark times 😂
Well I mean you gotta do what you gotta do, you never know what the future will look like lol
I think it’s just the tip of the iceberg unfortunately lol
It’s crazy these states want a prono site to to maintain thousands of personal IDs 💀
Especially for something socially embarrassing. That’s just building a blackmail database. Sure, porn use isn’t going to significantly compromise a lot of people, but for some that could end marriages and careers.
Particularly if one were to stray out of the heterosexual category. I wouldn’t put it past any of those states.
But how will the south watch all that transexual porn they love so much?
Side subject, sorry for my aside: I’m starting to really get annoyed at the censorship on my instance.
Looks uncensored to me on desktop.
edit: Wait, was it edited at some point?
I’m gonna guess original comment said tranny
Well your comment hasn’t been censored either.
I’m on a different instance, maybe only censors comments made on .world? No idea otherwise lol
Yeah, I’ve been a annoyed by this a time or two as well
I’m honestly curious what that porn fetish was that it was so bad to be censored. Anyone off-world able to enlighten me?
It’s the short hand version of Transexual. Tran-ny is what got censored.
That would be porn featuring people who were born as a boy or a girl by mistake, and who have since tried to put that right. Rocky Horror Picture Show has a “sweet” song with the word which is apparently problematic.
Weird, I’m a .world account too and I see what the comment said just fine
Same here.
That is weird. Maybe it’s a federation issue, I’m not sure how it all works.
What client are you using? Maybe that’s the issue?
Boost for Lemmy. It’s an android app.
I’m also on boost, it shows fine for me. I don’t even see a setting to enable censoring an individual word in comments. Just posts.
Kinda strange that world blocks that word. I’m on a queer instance and I can still see that word, in fact I don’t think I have ever encountered any removed words on my instance.
I’m on .world and I see:
granted, it was edited an hour after irreticent posted their comment, and I can’t see what it said before. (possibly the OC originally wrote “removed”?)
possibly the OC originally wrote “removed”?
That is a possibility. It all seems weird to me.
Agreed that’s weird, no question there, but I don’t think that’s on lemmy or .world. I’m pretty sure they don’t have the ability to censor specific words like that- the response from mods or admin would be to just remove the comment.
Let’s just be honest, censoring single words is stupid. For one thing, I guarantee you my imagination is going to fill in a much interesting alternative.
lemmy does have a regex based slur filter that replaces matched words with removed
this one was likely caught by lemmy.ml if it was indeed the variant ending in nny, as that one is in their slur filter.
That would be strange if Annisem literally wrote removed and then changed it to transexual later. Only reasons I can think of is that it was a bizarre attempt at trolling or they really did mean removed and then changed it because people thought it actually got removed. It’s also possible they did originally write a different word such as the t slur which they changed to transexual after seeing that what they originally wrote got removed.
I’m not sure that .world or lemmy at large even has that ability. normally mods would just yeet the entire comment.
It could have been an attempt at humor, or something. I dunno.
What I do know is that it’s not censored now.
Lemmy does have the capability and some instances use it. I’m not exactly sure how it works.
How incredibly bizarre. Why is it even allowed to edit a post?
becuz, hooched awn foeneks werked faur mii.
It was probably the lemmy.ml word filter, not lemmy.world
You can export all your subscriptions pretty easily so you can sign up to a different instance and import everything over. Check Lemmy settings.
Should look at others.
Unless you actually are a child who can’t handle reading magic words. Then you probably shouldn’t be online at all.
This is asinine, even when internet access to porn didn’t exist people had so much porn, and they’ll continue to get it. All this does is shift the business elsewhere.
It highlights that their elected officials are messing with something they like. It is also a lot safer for the business to block a geographic area than deal with PII.
If they operate in those states they need to obtain proof of age. I don’t exactly know how that works, since I haven’t had to do it, but I imagine it is something like uploading a driver’s license picture. If you have all that personal information you have to protect it, or risk information disclosure and lawsuits. A porn favorites list and personal identity info together in the same system is just asking to be hacked.
Yeah pornhub seems pretty legitimate and safe these days.
All these bans do is force people to go to sketchier websites which don’t have as thorough vetting process for their videos and likely have a lot more illegal / harmful content.
Yeah pornhub seems pretty legitimate and safe these days.
Yeah, they got threatened a few years ago with essentially banking cutting them off if they didn’t make a concerted effort to purge anything shady, which they achieved by purging basically all end-user uploads that weren’t verified models or studios.
Or VPN
The secret cabal of lobbyists actually responsible for the bans.
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/s, in case it was really necessary
If it wasn’t for the level of utter incompetence and technophobia that politicians seem to radiate I would have genuinely bought into this idea. But there’s no way they would actually be bright enough to work a scheme like this out.
I don’t actually buy into the idea, but to play devil’s advocate a little more, the politicians don’t need to “be bright enough to work a scheme like this out”. The vpn industry lobbyists just need to tell them “hey it’d be really great if you banned porn: here’s a bill we wrote that you could use”, and then the pollies just need to go “yeah, sounds good.”
So… wait. How will conservatives watch all their sister porn now?
Like any god fearing christian; by asking her first.
They would need to learn the meaning of consent first…
Remove the word porn and you probably have the answer.
by peeping through the blinds.
Literally 1984
One of the things that stuck out to me while reading in school was the sexual frustration part
We need a modern day Larry Flynt.
How utterly bizarre.
Malicious intentions. They’re trying to normalize internet ID laws.
on the bright side at least torrenting will become more mainstream 😅
That’s not a bright side
Edit, for those downvoting, you realise if there’s more torrenting there’ll be more incentive to stop torrenting
The pirates are undefeated when it comes to this internet shit lil bro. They’ll never stop them. There’s always a workaround.
Right, a workaround because bit torrent is no longer as useful - more work for everyone, change in tech, meanwhile the best trackers get taken out, users need to switch up trackers constantly, content gets fragmented, quality drops, old torrents get lost or everyone is left wondering wtf to do for 6-12 months until the new new thing takes over. Remind me why this is a good thing?
There’s ALWAYS a workaround!
Okay, nobody’s saying there isn’t a workaround, I’m saying torrenting becoming more mainstream isn’t good for pirates.
Torrenting has been around for just about forever, and was massively more popular/mainstream one to two decades ago than it is now. Trackers get taken down, but bittorrent endures.
Again, not saying bittorrent is going anywhere - just that going super mainstream isn’t making anything better. Ask people who were around during the heyday how much better torrenting has gotten since the likes of OG Demonoid, mininova, supernova, KAT, aXXo, YIFY even Rarbg got shut down or left the scene.
It is!
- Pirate Party
Sure, if you want more active work to block torrenting.
Good luck blocking p2p connections.
And when all the good trackers disappear how’re you planning on making those connections?
Seriously? The same way we did before trackers existed.
Usenet is an option, I’ll go back to IRC idgaf. They’ve tried to stop the scene since it’s inception with extremely limited success. When they cut one head off, two more (smarter ones) sprout in its place.
Now that we’re here, it’d be a worthwhile project to resurrect Gopher but route it all over Tor/i2p/Freenet/whatever as a gigantic fuck you to the powers that be. It’s light so it could potentially run mobile, r-pis, cloud, whatever.
And you see this as an improvement?
The Red States are turning into the fucking PRC. Carry on…
PRC?
China
The People’s Republic of China
Porn of the Republic of China.
I wish, I’d move there if they had half the benefits they do in the PRC. Universal healthcare, maternity leave, sick leave of multiple months, unions in all companies, workers councils in all corporations, rent controls, price controls… man, please let your comment come true.
I’d move there if they had half the benefits they do in the PRC. Universal healthcare,
Taiwan has universal healthcare. China has a crappy employer based health care system.
BTW, they have their own challenges some not dislike the USA, all countries do. Just be careful and stay sane!
Hahahaha
Oh shit you’re serious.
.ml users have hilarious takes until you realize they actually think that way.
This and no need to keeo up with the news becase who gives a fuck as you can’t vote anyway, just goon, play games and work :)
Oh and they have great trains.
play games
All’s fun and games until your opponent messages “Tiananmen Square 1989 Winnie the Pooh”
