What’s that, evidence of intent to commit terrorism?
But I’m Trump’s America, that’s OK, as long as you’re a Nazi.
Bring out your punchin’ fists. It’s time for a good ol’ fashioned fash bash.
The only good nazi is a dead nazi.
Pretty sure just saying it is terrorism.
Try saying youll “doxx and target” UHC C suite and see how that goes. Theyll shove you in the same spot as luigi and name a hotline after you
This could be done in literally like 50 minutes.
There’s a Luigi hotline?
I meant the hotline they tried to hurry in for CEOs to call after what Luigi did. Because apparently thats ehat society’a funds should focus on.
So there’s a CEO hotline now?
It’s ideal for when you want to have hot, steamy conversations about all your deepest, darkest desires. Like popping CEOs, overthrowing the oligarchy, and making enough money to afford all your basic human needs.
Maybe just dox Heritage Foundation members right back …
You can just go to their website. They aren’t hiding.
But they’re also the friends and scions of the mega-wealthy, put in these positions specifically to fuck with the lower classes. If they’re feeling a bit of impunity right now, you can hardly blame them.
I don’t think they’re targeting the board or the ex3acs. They’ll target the volunteers who do the actual editing.
I would think Luigi Mangione and what he represents might make them nervous.
I think what he did was exciting. But what he represents?
He took the School Shooter mentality to Wall Street.
It’s not school children ruining our lives, so maybe I’ll just shrug then offer thoughts and prayers if it starts happening regularly.
It’s not school children ruining our lives
It isn’t a single fungible CEOs, either. The problem is systemic, not individualistic.
Shooting a bunch of Sandy Hook middle schoolers is definitely more horrifying. But the consequences of the action are more of the same.
More cops, more surveillance, more conspiracy theories, more terror.
if it starts happening regularly
It will never happen regularly enough to undermine the profit motive. Not if it’s just random Lone Wolf vigilantes who binge watched Demolition Ranch videos and got delusions of grandeur.
What I meant is that he represents a physically dangerous reaction to the kind of oppressive policies they and their ilk support. Right or wrong, people are losing patience with the billionaires and their lickspittles. Maybe the Heritage Foundation with their culture war BS won’t be so much of a target, but the economic interests they represent are obviously no longer able to imagine that they can get away with their thievery without some possibility of a violent reaction.
I hope HF get the karma they deserve asap.
If god exists they’re all going to hell
So how do these idiots plan to solve the fact that many editors are not in fact based in the US. Just move edition these articles to any other country?
The Heritage Foundation doesn’t care if the people they dox are Americans or not. They care not for borders when it gets in the way of their agenda.
Well. I think they can dox someone editing out of Pajala in Sweden, Drenas in Kosovo, Bifuka in Japan or Bella Cola in Canada and it will mean fuck all. Perhaps Cletus in Bumfuck North Carolina will seethe but i will mean nothing
It would be a real shame if our furry overlords or some other group retaliated against the heritage foundation
Our furry overlords are not enough, we need a team of Luigis.
What about
Whoa. I didn’t know they made Luigi in a fuckable format.
He become too powerful
Found the furry!
This is Lemmy… that’s not at all difficult. This platform is mostly furries, communists, and Linux users… as well as the mythical furry communist Linux user.
mythical? isn’t the venn diagram of those categories almost a clean circle?
We need anonymous back
Indeed, +1!
Ai dump but you get the picture
Anonymous has been able to accomplish a variety of things, including:
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Supporting the Arab Spring: Anonymous hacked into government websites and took them offline in Egypt and Syria. They also distributed anonymising software for protesters and helped share videos of the uprising in Tunisia.
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Fighting child pornography: Anonymous has exposed enterprises that provided a platform for child pornography and helped in the arrest of Internet predators.
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Protesting against Scientology: Anonymous launched an online offensive against the Church of Scientology, including phone, fax and e-mail spamming, and DDoS attacks.
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Taking down government websites: Anonymous has taken down government websites in response to a variety of issues, including stringent LGBT laws, imageboard censorship, and government oppression.
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Exposing corruption: Anonymous has published usernames in relation to nefarious activities and outed the owners and operators of Freedom Hosting for their support for child pornography.
These are just a few examples of the many things that Anonymous has been able to accomplish. While their methods are sometimes controversial, there is no doubt that they have had a significant impact on the world.
Downvoted for vague and unsubstantiated claims. Also, is point 5 the same as point 2?
Instead of dumping AI output, consider giving 1 concrete example of something Anonymous did and what effect it had.
Edit: and I just noticed you responded to the wrong comment. Good effort, champ.
Look it up yourself AI hater.
I know you won’t so here you go. Btw you can just ask Gemini for links to it’s info noob
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2011/5/19/anonymous-and-the-arab-uprisings
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12110892
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/feb/17/wikileaks-internet
https://www.wired.com/story/freedom-hosting-ii-hack-dark-web-offline/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2008/feb/04/news
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/06/anonymous-ku-klux-klan-name-leak
Every one of these was singing worrisome they did which had effects.
As somebody who was trying to find info on Scientology from back in the BBS pre Internet days they were very helpful.
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Firstly it has to be somewhere other than 4chan, but anonymity is a must…
Why not Lemmy? Federation seems kind of perfect for something so decentralized as Anonymous.
Why, did they actually accomplish anything?
what a joke
Made a note to donate on payday.
I always give to Wikipedia. I’m poor as shit, but anytime I see that banner they gonna get some money.
NOTHING has been as useful for me in the last 20 years. I have learned so much I’ve forgotten over half of it.
I’m a hillbilly who has no education past around the 5th grade. It has been invaluable to me. I wouldn’t be who I am without it. Honestly without the internet as a whole, but especially Wikipedia.
I have learned so much I’ve forgotten over half of it.
The crux is, i have learned it, told myself “Oh yeah, that’s on Wikipedia” and only remember where to find what information. I’m utterly useless without Wikipedia, as many family quiz losses around Christmas turned out… Hell, even sources i use for discussions on the internet i get often from Wikipedia articles, they sometimes link the actual studies…my google foo is pretty good, but some things i’m simply unable to find, except in the Wikipedia source lists…
I feel like that thing has now become too large to be considered a “banner.” Its approaching AIDS quilt dimensions.
I’m not donating this time, but only because I just made a big donation in response to Elmo talking shit about Wikipedia.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Can’t have anybody spreading the truth now, can we?
Reality is just a liberal conspiracy!
Reality is a scam made up by Big Philosophy to sell more philosophy.
In case anyone doesn’t know, you can download all of Wikipedia of you have 120GB of space. You can download a whole bunch of wikis straight off Kiwix.
I refuse to let the fascists control knowledge
Is that the medialess version or with images?
[…] you can find the data here: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/kiwix/zim/wikipedia/
The latest (January 2024) total dump for Wikipedia (English) is:
wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2024-01.zim…but there’s other languages and sizes available as well.
Repost of: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12154129
Why thank you!
I think at 120GB that is the with media version. You can also get a medialess version as well. There’s a wiki for how to download wikipedia if you want more info:
120GB is with photos and not video.
Bless
I refuse to let the fascists control knowledge
Wikipedia isn’t just useful as a repository of information. Its useful because editors are constantly adding and refining the information within. Downloading a singular instance of the site is like owning an Encyclopedia. Diminished utility year-by-year.
True, but it depends who’s going the refining. If they start censoring or changing facts, then the static instance on your hard drive has huge value.
Or you can always grab a torrent: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents
Also make sure to seed, preferably on a dedicated machine with an unmetered connection and high bandwidth.
Thanks for this PSA, it’s stunning how we used to have encyclopedias in our studies but now no one collects the physical offline copies (which includes an archive of Wikipedia)
no one collects the physical offline copies
I’ve still got my dad’s 1957 encyclopedia in a storage closet somewhere. Another one from 1981 is floating around somewhere. But they take up enormous amounts of space and don’t do a great job of self-updating, nevermind searching or re-indexing.
Fortunately they don’t on Wikipedia
Is that just the English version or all languages?
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How would that function?
A portal site which lists search results. Each result contains a list of definitions/entries - each from different instances. Editors from different instances can decide to agree with others at multiple levels (granularity), right down to a definition. It would probably be difficult to agree on paragraphs, but not impossible. Search results with a lot of “agreement” are showed at the top of the result list, while those with with no agreement are shown at the bottom.
The agreement dynamics can already be seen in science between journals, articles, authors, even if it’s less structured and formal. There are now search engines that use AI to measure an agreement/disagreement scale between papers (connected by citations).
Obviously, there needs to be some way to validate, track, and mark the “bad faith” instances to push them down or out of the results entirely. And that way has to be based on a combination of expertise and reputation, not on universal vote counts.
I like this idea in theory, but I think it would be easy for bad-faith actors to game the system. Expertise can be faked and reputation can be manipulated. Governments or other powerful/wealthy organizations could easily fund a large effort to shift agreement metrics toward their preferred narrative. We know Russia and China already have whole farms of people on social media trying to skew narratives and perceptions. Hell, I could see a tech-savvy individual distributing a software package to like-minded (or gullible) people in order to effectively automate the process of skewing the agreement metrics.
That sounds like it would require way more effort to maintain than the existing Wikipedia model.
There’s the federated wiki software ibis started by lemmy’s developers.
Perhaps the ‘heritage foundation’ needs some of it’s own medicine. These people are domestic terrorists who are traitors to their country.
We need another brave group like that furry hacker group that pissed them off so much that they flew off the handle. Except I vote the group that does it doesn’t make the same mistake as the last one by contacting them afterwards.
First I’ve heard about that. Do you have a link for more details?
https://cyberscoop.com/hackvists-release-two-gigabytes-of-heritage-foundation-data/
I only remember it because I saw it plenty of times being posted here when it was first happening, though K don’t know what sources everyone else linked.
I mean… What’s stopping us, random Lemmy users, from making SiegedSec 2.0? If you want something done right, do it yourself.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I wouldn’t have a clue what to do. I’ve never done actual hacking before outside of once in a learning lab on a virtual machine where I sent a social engineered email to a controlled email address. But that’s not really hacking, let alone gonna be any use to a SiegedSec 2.0, now is it?
Can you smell the freedom?
Sounds like a terrorist threat to me. Unfortunately, our next administration is in bed with the terrorists.
Doxing is a terrorist threat…?
Edit: Downvote me if you want, but I legitimately don’t understand. Is there a joke im missing…?
Yes, it’s a terrorist threat. The point of the threat is to scare Wikipedia editors away from editing the site so they can fill it with their propoganda.
I vaguely remember republicans calling folks terrorists that doxed people for pushing nazi propaganda. Everyone was clowning on them then.
When someone is dangerous, like one who spouts Nazi propoganda, I can see a reason for them to be doxxed. But that’s not the case here. China wants to send the reds after the people who write factual information on Wikipedia pages they don’t like.
If they do that, Wikipedia is going to die because nobody wants to be assaulted for a volunteer gig.
Wikipedia is not pushing nazi propaganda.
Yeah, but that’s not really what im talking about. If doxing is terrorism, then doxing is terrorism. If it isn’t then it isn’t. “Rules for thee but not for me” doesn’t really fly outside of circlejerks.
When the state executes a convicted murderer, it is not terrorism. If someone murders their spouse out of jealousy, it’s not terrorism. When a serial killer murders 10 people, it is still not usually terrorism.
But when a radical minority group wants to push their political/religious agenda and subdue, oppress the general population by randomly murdering a bunch of them - that IS terrorism.
All of the above are murders, but not all of them are terrorism.
The same is true for every other type of aggression, including doxing. They can be used for many things in many cases. They can be used as a means of oppression, or the oppressed can use them to fight back against oppression. Almost all forms of aggression can be used for the good of society (e.g. by the police against criminals, or by the revolutionists against their oppressors) and of course for bad reasons as well. It all depends on the situation.
So no, doxing does NOT equal terrorism. But it can be used as such.
Left wing murderers aim for the rich, right wing murderers aim for the people. Show me the left wing serial killer aiming for fox news indoctrinated neonazis, and we might feel differently.
