I wish I would have known about this before buying the Pinetab2. I didn’t realize (completely my fault) that the Pinetab2 was a development unit without working wifi, bluetooth, camera and other issues. Once again, my fault, not Pine64’s.
Finally a decent Linux tablet that can actually replace many laptops. Only thing is that it would’ve been great with an i3-N300.
Always wanted to try a star labs product. What always stops me are the specs. Not enough ram or storage or CPU to justify the price. Even though I know the premium is there because they aren’t just white labeled clevos like every other Linux focused PC company
Have a clevo and it sucks.Battery life is poory And the Fans go off for like no reason
Oh no. Man that sucks. Which one? The lemur pro by system76 was a clevo I had it for a bit and thought it was really good all around. I would have kept it but the specs on a M1 were just ridiculous compared to anything out there. No fans, no dust collection was something I didn’t know I appreciated so much
It’s a tuxedo. The xp15 gen 11 vor clevo PD50. i7 10th gen and a 2070 max q. And a 4k OLED. Battery life is about 50 min : (
I would LOVE an arm machine, but I need a GPU for work.
I got my eyes on the framework 16. I could leave the GPU at home and go for battery life. Or put it in and go into work mode.
Hm, I’m interested, although I’ve gotten by just fine running Linux on my old Surface Pro 3
That’s an incredible price for 16gb of memory and a 512 ssd. Would be an upgrade from my 14" laptop. I just hope I don’t have to wait multiple years to get it.
Yeah, but at the cost of a quad core processor at 1Ghz
It boosts faster tho, so for average usage it might be fine. It just will have trouble with anything that requires sustained use, which for me would probably just be compiling code or games, things I wouldn’t try to do on a tablet.
I like compiling Gentoo on tablets
Are you Immolo? If not, I’ll write a comment about this on his latest video.
I’m not. But I installed Gentoo on a x86 tablet, it was fun.
The best thing for me is that you can buy a battery for it on their site with instructions how to do the replacement. Nothing is glued together according to the manual (which probably makes it mory clunky than Surface but oh well). Coreboot is an icing on the cake.
Seems like no stylus? If so it makes the starlite not very surface-like in my mind. Ain’t a stylus the reason for something like this?
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My thoughts exactly.
Ah damn yeah, I was just thinking that this device might be something I’d consider blowing my budget for, if it can replace multiple devices. But the lack of stylus on a device like this is huge let down.
How hard would it be to make it work with a third party stylus?
it wouldn’t be hard at all you just buy a stylus that works like a finger
With the catch that it works like a finger meaning fat and imprecise. A stylus like the surface has is more like a pen and needs hardware in the tablet to function.
Not really. I’ve got a cheap stylus for my phone that acts like a pen, down to drawing fine lines too. It can’t adjust the thickness of the line based on pressure, like my Wacom pad and pen for the PC, but for most things it works brilliantly :)
Did you ever use the Nvidia Shield Tablet stylus? It was a very thin and precise passive stylus that worked on any touch screen. It was pretty nice. They probably only sold a handful of them, so there was no gen 2. I happen to know someone who was working on that project, so they let me play with it.
maybe 10 years ago
It depends.
You can basically always use the crappy ones made for general touchscreens to replicate your finger. You can’t use a real one with features like Apple Pencil/surface pen/wacom without an extra layer built into the screen to recognize them.
FWIW, my daily driver is a Lenovo Yoga with Ubuntu and the active pen works just fine with that. That support is definitely there.
Sure, because the Yoga has the extra screen layer to support active pens. Linux isn’t the problem.
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Interesting. You’d think they’d make that obvious somewhere.
I have a surface and I love it. At the same time, I hardly use the stylus.
I’m sure it’s the reason many get it, but I also think there’s a large audience for a tablet without one.
I genuinely dont see the reason for a windows tablet without a stylus. Note-taking is nice with a stylus but for just holding it and watching videos or browsing a surface is honestly too unwieldly and the windows touch interface is also not great.
Agreed. Although I do use the stylus that came with my Galaxy Tab S7 for note-taking, that’s the only time I use it. 95% of the time I just use the tablet for browsing the web or watching videos.
They do have a generic MPP active pen as a configuration option though
Y’know what? I may just sell my iPad for this.
FWIW this thing is nowhere near as powerful as a modern iPad. Different universes.
True - but hell all I ever do with mine is watch videos and browse the web anyway…
Waste of an M1 processor honestly
My m1 has rwally crappy Battery life
WiFi AC is interesting, mostly because AX has a lot of improvements for congestion
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I feel like no desktop OS maker has nailed transition to touch screen devices, but I have only recently gotten my first x86 tablet and have only used windows on it, so my experience is limited and I’m only judging from screenshots I have seen online.
(I guess steam OS can count as decent enough, but it’s not available yet outside of steam deck and it’s gaming focused)
P.S. I honestly would be happy with an iPad if it were not so limited and more non-mobile games were available for it
I think the issue with devices like this is that apps simply aren’t optimized for use like this.
I have a Surface. Barely used it as a tablet really, there aren’t a ton of uses and Windows in tablet mode is just awful.
With the keyboard it turns into a neat and portable mini laptop, which I love.
The Starlite seems neat, but with the current specs it feels like not quite a tablet yet not quite a laptop either.
Wow, the price and openness of both the firmware and warranty make this a very enticing product. I’ve been casually looking for a new laptop, something to just watch youtube, browsing and manage my home lab with.
I checked out the actual product page, and it’s a bit confusing in the configurator. Seems like the default power adaptor is non-us by default. Easy enough to change, no cost variance. But the keyboard section is confusing. Additional layout options for +~$110. Does that mean a secondary keyboard? What’s the default?
EDIT: Any keyboard is not included, after finally finding the “what’s in the box” in the specifications section. So, factor in an extra $100 in the price if ya need it.
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Almost certainly not since the keyboard is $110 add-on. It is not included by default.
Cent see a use case for this device then. Its already heavier than my clamshell laptop with no keyboard a 1.3" smaller screen and 45% less battery.
Portable devices need to be portable.
That’s the same weight as my Surface Pro 9, which is a ton faster and has a bigger battery, fans and a slightly larger screen.
I’m running endeavour os on a Lenovo duet 3. It’s fully functional including the gyroscope, which is super damn amazing. Windows basically wouldn’t run, but I feel like a super user when in using endeavor on it. It’s so good.
I’m genuinely intrigued by the potential use cases for this Linux tablet.
In my opinion:
- It’s too large to fit comfortably in a pocket, necessitating some form of bag for transport;
- It’s too large to hold comfortably on the sofa, such as when reading an ebook;
- It seems underpowered for its size;
- The keyboard quality appears subpar for a device of this size (I haven’t tried it, but we all know how these keyboards typically feel);
- It won’t replace a smartphone and therefore won’t take over its casual entertainment tasks;
For casual tech activities, I have a Pinephone with a keyboard. Despite the phone’s lack of power and the keyboard’s quality, its portability and form factor are hard to beat.
It’s too large to hold comfortably on the sofa, such as when reading an ebook;
lol I use a 13.3 inch boox max and the size is beautiful for reading.
I mean you ARE reading Stormlight Archive. If the screen wasn’t that big you’d end up with a repetitive stress injury from flipping all the pages.
It’s the 3 book set on kindle so Goodeads* has it at 3800 pages. Unfortunately it doesn’t give page numbers in book, which I find super annoying. I’ve been working on it since 4th of July weekend, but because most of the time I have to read is audiobooks while doing other stuff, progress takes forever.
The beauty of the large device is less about fiction, though. I also prefer it there, but being able to fit 2 pages of textbooks/programming books that rely on more structured formatting is where it really shines. (I do regret taking the heavy discount on the Max instead of paying for the sidelit Lumi, though. Needing lighting can be annoying at times.)
On topic, it really is perfectly comfortable to hold. While I do rest it in my lap a lot and set it up with a stand on a table occasionally, I have no issue with holding it either. It takes the second hand to turn pages if you hold it one handed but the actual holding it feels fine, and definitely better than a textbook in your lap.
*I want to move but nothing else works for me.
I want to move but nothing else works for me.
Have you tried Storygraph? That’s what I’ve switched to and it can do 99% of the functionality I used on Goodreads just as well, the only thing missing for me is a similar setup for grouping books into multiple custom-ordered lists, but that wasn’t a critical feature for me.
I must do something for my noodle arms problem then 😅
I don’t get it. I loved my 8" tablet, but they are extinct. I bought a 10" tablet but it is too big to use for a tablet. Who the hell is buying these 12" tablets.
It seems like Star Labs is pivoting away from making superheroes and finally decided to use their technology more responsibly!
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