I believe in Fediverse Supremacy!

  • @[email protected]
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    75 months ago

    Fediverse: extremely USA-centric, extremely left and queer. Dissent is punished as hard as posting Winnie Pooh on TikTok.

    • Midnight Wolf
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      25 months ago

      Imagine wanting to exist without automatic persecution and being told you are “extremely left”

      Lmfao eat shit bitch ♥️

    • @[email protected]
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      145 months ago

      Downvotes hurt, I get it. But remember, it’s only an attempt to remind you you’re an asshole. It’s up to you whether you believe them or not.

      • @[email protected]
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        15 months ago

        How does that work here anyway? Is there a FAQ or something to explain? Do downvoted comments get hidden or pushed down?

        • @[email protected]
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          55 months ago

          Not as far as I can tell. It’s really just an indicator “some people thought your comment was dogshit”. Whether you take it seriously is up to you.

      • @[email protected]
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        35 months ago

        Meh, you’re just building an echo chamber. Everyone around is of the same opinion, everything against is downvoted to hell, sometimes bans are handed out.

        And you are starting to believe you’re normal and you’re keeping your space clean of all the “assholes”. But instead you’re just way too far up your own ass most of the time.

        Your downvotes don’t hurt. It’s just sad that this ambitious project that could’ve easily replaced reddit, turned into a circle-jerk. The content and opinion-diversity on everything that’s reachable from my current instance is approximately /r/antiwork. I could just go back and spend all my days browsing that one sub without any loss. But such pompous name “fediverse”.

        You got nothing folks. Every community is about USA only and all the top posts are “trump bad”, “capitalism bad.” Like nothing else exists. You sabotaged yourselves. There’s no fediverse. There are 20-40k people chanting together “fuck trump, fuck musk, fuck capitalism”. On every instance, in every thread, on every topic.

        And you know what, I agree with all three. But even to me you look pathetic. And as my multiple tests confirm, you do not accept any disagreement, and you cannot brin any rational argument to the table, you can only echo.

        • @[email protected]
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          55 months ago

          Almost every other Reddit alternative has been taken over by nazis. You’ve got plenty of space dude. Just fuck off. I’m sure there’s even a fascist lemmy instance you can find instead of here whining because you can’t spread hate. Shit, just go join X.

    • @[email protected]
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      45 months ago

      But it’s not usually the people running the platform doing that. You can also find instances that go full on 4chan style freeze peach and only delete explicitly illegal stuff, but most of those are probably defederated from the big instances by now.

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    5 months ago

    We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.

    But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis’ of alignments:

    • Impossible to place on left vs right.
    • Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
    • Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
    • cannot align with a specific country’s interests

    How about this: “Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us”

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  • @[email protected]
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    25 months ago

    I honestly don’t think the fediverse will ever take off - and that’s a good thing. If it was to get too mainstream, eventually it would need to be standardised and controllerd to accommodate the average person, which would defeat the point of the fediverse as a whole. Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken

  • @[email protected]
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    885 months ago

    From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.

        • @[email protected]
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          205 months ago

          You tend to have very extreme views, which sometimes get heavily downvoted. It’s convenient for you to blame that on “American indoctrination.”

          And as you say, Lemmy is too small. So maybe it’s just that a lot of people here do not agree with your views.

          • @[email protected]
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            85 months ago

            Even for people, who are not Leninist/Stalinist or similar, it is noticeable.

            From my perspective (being not from the US) us-american arrogance is very present on lemmy.

            • Pup Biru
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              35 months ago

              us-american arrogance is very present on lemmy literally everywhere.

              ftfy

          • @[email protected]
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            Those aren’t mutually exclusive; “American indoctrination.” is the reason so many lemmitors disagree with such extreme views as “sending weapons that prolong war is bad for the people who will suffer the effects of those weapons, mostly civilians”, “supporting al-nusra is bad”, “we shouldn’t put tariffs on EVs and solar panels”, or “the chinese government having your data is less of a threat to you than the american government having your data”

      • (⬤ᴥ⬤)
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        25 months ago

        i really doubt any major organizations are paying for bots, at least not on lemmy. we’re just not big enough methinks
        if there are any it’s probably a smaller operation done by a few people max.

      • @[email protected]
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        105 months ago

        Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.

        • @[email protected]
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          145 months ago

          I think we just have a surprising amount of political staffers in Lemmy. The bulk does seem to be wealthy people living in suburbs. Look at how the biggest groups are people self hosting thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment.

          • @[email protected]
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            35 months ago

            Surprising amount of political staffers… As if that is a class of people. Those people are normies and not tech savvy. They’re all workaholics too so most of them probably only used LinkedIn for social media.

            Your idea that people who self-host somehow equals political staffers is just asinine. There’s literally no overlap.

  • @[email protected]
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    45 months ago

    We already have American censorship on the top ones, which will get worse once Project 2025 is enacted…

  • @[email protected]
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    15 months ago

    The masses will always be attracted to the opiates offered them by those seeking to control them for greedy purposes.

  • @[email protected]
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    15 months ago

    You can still have your comment censored/removed.

    I don’t see how this is any different from Reddit

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    145 months ago

    I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)

    The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.

    • @[email protected]
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      25 months ago

      I use Sync for mobile app and Photon for a web interface. But I think most people are not okay with having to search for these options.

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        Exactly that yes, it took me a while to find Photon, and I’m someone that’s passionate about tech and works in tech.

        Your average new user is going to give up long before that and never use the site again.

        It’s also confusing to pick which instance to start with (users need to be guided more)

        • @[email protected]
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          15 months ago

          About the instance choice, I believe it’s easier to get used to since people use e-mail and Mastodon is already quite popular.

      • @[email protected]
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        25 months ago

        For you yes, I’m also okay with it. Bit it’s not great as smooth and nice as what the vast majority of people are used to

      • @[email protected]
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        165 months ago

        .world is not the problem, this particular user is.

        They literally said “I hate the disabled”. I know that because I tagged them when I saw that. No it wasn’t out of context.

        Other instances they may have just been full on banned for their behavior.

        • Midnight Wolf
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          25 months ago

          Can I get a link to that? Assuming it was recent enough to not be too much of a bother…

          (I’m disabled myself and I’d love the opportunity to tear them apart)

          • @[email protected]
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            35 months ago

            I dont remember how long ago (maybe a few weeks?) And the tag is just a manual tag, so no link to that one. You’d have to check their post history, sorry.

            For reference, this is my tag:

    • sunglocto
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      55 months ago

      Avoid .world .ml and grad and you should be good

    • Amon
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      135 months ago

      ♪ You give .world a bad name ♪

        • @[email protected]
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          175 months ago

          Not only transphobia. Also ableism and generally being an asshole. Breaking any given ”be civil“ rule in any given community.

        • macniel
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          25 months ago

          Which logs? There are multiple communities on .world

            • @[email protected]
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              Reddit-tier behavior right here. Because you’re just looking at the mod log and attributing every thing ever modded to my entire history of posts. I participate in lots of communities, and a majority of my stuff isn’t ever modded or deleted.

              And it’s actually worse over here, because instance admins have access to the history of your up/downvotes, so they can dive even DEEPER and have been caught doing that exact thing.

              But way to miss the point - and then go even deeper in proving the point I was making; and being a great example of that point.

              • @[email protected]
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                55 months ago

                But way to miss the point

                Lmao. Talking some irony here. The point was not to analyze all your comments and behavior. The modlog shows you’re not being censored, you’re just experiencing consequences of breaking community and server rules.

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          https://old.lemmy.world/comment/14402980

          Would someone transphobic write this?

          You weirdo perpetually online Lemmy users always jump to the transphobic conclusion. I’ve been labeled that even though I’m not so many times it’s not even funny any longer. But you pull some reddit-tier shit and judge someone based on some cherry-picked history; and then have the balls to tell me to go back to Reddit while exhibiting that same behavior. Hilarious!