• @[email protected]
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    242 years ago

    In California, America’s largest state by population, our #1 selling vehicle is the Honda Civic. And driving on our roads, Civics, Corollas, Accords etc… dominate the roads. And even the biggest selling SUV the CRV gets like 30+ to the gallon.

    Small cars sell in places where small cars work.

  • @[email protected]
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    272 years ago

    CAFE is killing the smaller vehicle. Vehicles are getting super round and boring for aerodynamics. Wheel base is getting longer. Track is getting wider. There’s no such thing as a small truck. Everything is am SUV (“truck”) or crossover (hatchback / station wagon). CAFE allows for less fuel efficiency for wider track and longer wheelbase and trucks over everything else.

    Remember how VW got caught cheating on the mileage tests? Remember how every other major manufacturer was caught too?

    The govt has set far too high of a standard for mileage, so car companies are making giant ass cars to meet (cheat) CAFE standards. The manufacturers have done everything they can but still can’t meet the standards.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    There was a time back when gas prices got kinda high when I thought Americans would finally shift down to slightly smaller cars, but now it’s practically a cultural thing for half the country to burn as much fuel as possible, so I suspect even if gas prices here hit Europe levels it wouldn’t cause them to budge much.

    It does feel really odd, though, going somewhere like a school and just being absolutely surrounded by huge SUVs and pickup trucks that you know damn well like 90% of the drivers aren’t actually utilizing.

    Double-sucks because it’s becoming more and more difficult to find a small car. Everything new, even most cars, are huge.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    I’d be happy enough with a Smart Fortwo style vehicle. I’d be more than happy with good public transportation and non-car dominated urban planning. I’d be over the moon for high speed rail lines covering the country.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    Here we have higher taxes for cars more than 4m long, so there are lots of small cars. Also, a lot of 3.99m cars.

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    There still exist cars in 2023. It’s not just SUV’s available on the lot.

    People just want them, because of grocery trips or a kid in school sports or whatever.

    Whether most of them actually need that SUV space is something up for debate, but it’s gonna be hard to convince the average American (already in love with full SUV’s) to just switch away.

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    1402 years ago

    My previous car is a Yaris.

    When I got the Yaris I heard people make snide comments like “Anyone see that big guy get out of that tiny car?” then gas prices went up and they became “Hey, what kind of MPG does that thing get?”

    I like hatchbacks. Bigger is fine but nothing huge.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      Just got a ford focus hatchback last year after a 95 suburban. Love it. Fits everywhere and fun to drive

    • Something Burger 🍔
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      152 years ago

      I have a Yaris and think it’s too big. It’s 20cm longer than my previous car (2005 Clio) but somehow has less interior space, it feels cramped.

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      22 years ago

      I love that this has become the hatchback and Yaris love thread. As a GTI owner it makes me happy. I do not want nor need to go any bigger. It’s almost the perfect car.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      As a taller woman my wife was against us getting a subcompact until I took her to test drive it thinking I wouldn’t fit. Between seeing how comfortable and efficient it was she was entirely on board

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        Got the same model in red but with the 1.5L engine from 2019. Love it. Already got 75k km and it’s still running like a charm.

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      Yaris gang rise up!

      Want to trade my 09 in for a more recent model, hatchback would be ideal

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        The ease of driving and parking in a car that small is insane. I thought my little Outlander Sport was a big difference from my last car, then I saw my buddy’s Yaris easily make a U turn on a narrow 2 lane road.

    • KptnAutismus
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      22 years ago

      My Yaris is actually older than me. so old in fact, that it was called “vitz” and/or “echo” in some countries. i am the 4th owner. had to replace the starter, all the fluids and the clutch (cuz old people). best car ever. it has around 100.000 km on it and runs like it rolled out of the factory just yesterday. considering we euros pay up to 7€ per gallon it’s good i still get around 40mpg out of it. love that thing.

    • @[email protected]
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      472 years ago

      My current car is an '07 Yaris. It’s totally bare bones, but everyone who has been in it comments on how spacious the interior is.

      I’ve always driven small cars, because they’re economical and I’ve never needed anything larger. I hate that small hatchbacks are so scarce in the US and that our roads are overrun with ludicrously huge pickups and SUVs. We transitioned from land yachts to small cars in the late 1970’s and 1980’s, we could do it again with the right incentives.

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        I can’t even remember what year mine was. It was the first year it was in the US. Was a decent car. Good milage. But it chewed through water pumps so bad. It was either loud squealing belt or too tight causing it to killed the pump. Never could get it “just right”

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          That’s too bad. I have 189,000 miles on mine (304,000 km) and it’s never let me down. I haven’t had to do anything but regular maintenance on it. I wanted to replace it with something a bit newer and nicer, but had to replace the car my wife and daughter share, instead. Fortuately, I don’t drive very much so it will probably hold out for a few more years.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            Thats the way to be. I ignore the urge and ride whats paid off until it just doesn’t make sense any more. The “newer spiffy” car models will still be around when its time.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        I drive an Auris station wagon Hybrid (aka, the US Corolla iM with bigger boot). I had a chance to drive multiple Yaris generations and honestly I am always surprised by how roomy it is inside. They made a perfect use of space - way better than VW did with Polo (smaller Golf), that’s for sure…

    • Lev_Astov
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      72 years ago

      The US EPA currently penalizes smaller cars thanks to a poorly thought out rule for fuel economy that scales by wheelbase size, making larger cars easier to meet requirements for. The EPA has made many embarrassingly backwards decisions, but this might be the worst.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        I was taxed an extra $150 to register a 2002 Honda Insight last year. It was for a “Hybrid Tax” because hybrid owners buy less gas and therefore are paying less tax on gasoline. Like, that’s the whole point of driving a small car!

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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      We embraced the shit out of them during the oil crisis in the '70’s. Then when gasoline got cheap again we snapped right back.

      “But my SUV makes me feel so ‘safe’ and gives me a commanding view of the road!!!”

      I am of the opinion that everyone ought to just get a motorcycle.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        I’d love to have a motorcycle that would replace my current vehicle, but it would need to be capable of keeping me warm while handling well in heavy snow. Afaik, there aren’t any enclosed bikes out there

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        When you need a fucking step ladder to get into your jacked up pickup just so you can commute or get groceries you might have lost your mind.

        I am of the opinion that everyone ought to just get a motorcycle.

        I’d rather not die tyvm.

      • @[email protected]
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        102 years ago

        I think there should be a separate license to drive SUVs and Trucks over a certain size. And that maintaining that license should be a bit of a hassle - like a required in-person written and practical test every 2 years. If people want that commanding view of the road and “safe” feeling that comes from endangering everyone else on the road, then they should have to put in some extra effort - not enough extra effort that it’s unattainable for those who actually have a need for a vehicle of that size, but enough effort that it would discourage the widespread use we have currently.

      • Nougat
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        I am of the opinion that everyone ought to just get a motorcycle.

        But only if it’s a dual sport, right? ;)

      • @[email protected]
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        202 years ago

        Have you ever seen Americans drive? Or the ones that ride motorcycles?

        Give everyone a motorcycle and half the country would be dead in a week

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          Honestly, fuck motorcycle drivers. I know there’s plenty of them out there who operate your machines properly, but there SO MANY absolute asshats on motorcycles, always making the highway way more dangerous for everyone around them.

          If I could remove one vehicle from the earth it would be motorcycles. Idgaf how fun they are for you, people can’t be trusted with them in general.

          • @[email protected]
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            62 years ago

            Like most drivers you probably just don’t notice the ones that aren’t loud / ridden by asshats.

            Many bikes have basically the same performance as a civic, you are painting with far too broad a brush here.

            In a decade running a motorcycle as my only transport, I’ve never been remotely a threat to the 5,000 pound tanks I’m forced to share the road with, but almost been taken out by left turning stop sign and red light runners more times than is reasonable.

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              Yep couple assholes ruin it for everyone, I recognized that already,but also, it’s a particular type of danger that isn’t posed by anything else, and I dont think your pleasure is worth my stress tbh.

              To be clear when I’m talking about danger I’m talking about the motorcyclist turning into an unrecognizable pink streak on the asphalt, not “hurting my car”…

              If you pull some stupid shit and die on the road next to me that affects me more than you, since youre fucking dead then, so therefore: I should get more say in it than you.

              Wrap it in whatever guise you want, you’ll never convince me that riding a motorcycle is anything other than selfish.

              • @[email protected]
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                32 years ago

                So wait. I am transporting one person, not taking up much space, obeying the rules of the road, don’t have loud pipes nor speed, and you’re telling me I’m selfish? When you literally just said you don’t care about our pleasure?

                I don’t think it’s us thats the selfish one here.

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                92 years ago

                I don’t use it for pleasure, I use it to get around. If car drivers are stressing about rider safety (I don’t get that impression) they can show it by putting their phones down and paying better attention to the world around them.

          • @[email protected]
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            42 years ago

            You don’t like them weaving in and out of traffic and blowing past you at 40+ mph over the speed limit?

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          12 years ago

          They’d all get those goddamn ear splitting harleys too. Like there isn’t enough noise already.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    62 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Heavier vehicles also wear out roads faster, though the difference between a small sedan and a large electric SUV amounts to very little when compared to the effect of a garbage truck rolling by each morning.

    Just this week, Automotive News reported that the Mitsubishi Mirage is on the way out, joining the choir invisible alongside cars like the Chevrolet Sonic, Honda Fit, and Toyota Yaris, all of which were once sold in the US.

    The Bolt’s biggest problem, from a bean counter’s point of view at least, was a battery that cost a lot more per kWh than one made with General Motors’ new Ultium cells.

    News of the Bolt’s cancellation was met with much dismay, and GM recently decided to bring the nameplate back at some unspecified time on a new Ultium-based platform.

    But GM CEO Mary Barra has also warned that even with the lower cost of Ultium cells, the company won’t make any profit on sub-$40,000 EVs until late in the decade.

    In addition to the ever-escalating safety arms race that entices American car buyers, a misplaced obsession with having as much range as possible also factors in here.


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  • @[email protected]
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    292 years ago

    Cars have gotten bigger externally, but internally it seems storage space is actually going down. My 2014 Nissan Note has a 10% larger storage capacity than a 2023 Renault Espace, even tho the latter is 50cm larger in all three dimensions and is literally called ‘spatious’.

  • Margot Robbie
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    122 years ago

    Small, pink cars?

    I like it. Reminds me of a movie or something.