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It amazes me how people apparently can’t live without watching shitty videos all the time… Oh, well.
I find takes like this unfortunate. I learned SO much on TikTok. Accounts like gatenerd, jerrythink, kellyscleankitchen, softpourn, publicopinion, hankgreen, alexisanddean, thelawsayswhat, kylascan, and countless interior designers, architects, chefs, and all the others I can’t recall.
There is no other platform like TikTok where you can get drawn in not just in minutes watched, but in knowledge gained. Wish you shared my experience.
I can understand your point until you get to the “there is no other platform like TikTok”. You lose me there.
Hopefully this little outage scare helps you to diversify!
Honestly, there isn’t another platform that isn’t a step down. The algorithm that drives the For You Page is leaps and bounds ahead of Instagram and YouTube.
The best analogy I can give is if Linux was banned for personal use in the US. Sure, you could use Windows or macOS; the later is even Unix based! However, it would be a downgrade for Linux users. Even something like FreeBSD wouldn’t be a seemless transition, and the communities that were built would take time to recover.
Making an analogy where Linux is tiktok is wild.
Reading can accomplish the same thing, although it is a skill that has to be developed.
Yeah, sure /s
Edit: I see the influencers are on Lemmy since TT is going away and they are salty.
Eh. Most of these people are already wealthy from their parents and were just using their wealth to make more wealth by showcasing how wealthy they are to those who will never be wealthy.
Living vicariously is a plague. I think less of anyone who does it.
Rednote with multiple SIMULTANEOUS video feeds sounds like a whole new level of brain rot
Sorry what, you got a pic of this?
Read it here, hopefully not paywalled https://www.reuters.com/technology/chinas-rednote-what-you-need-know-about-app-tiktok-users-are-flocking-2025-01-15/
I feel exactly the same way. It’s like they can’t imagine a world without it. When it’s banned they’ll have to fill their time just staring at the wall.
Or, heaven forbid, talk to people in the real world.
It would be great if they switched to Zen Buddhism a few hours a day though.
It’s an addiction. No other way to describe it. Like your coke dealer ran out so you gotta switch to crack instead.
Man people will do anything not to drink Pepsi!
Except skip soda.
Ironically I stopped drinking soda because Pepsi got rid of the only soda I really liked.
RIP Diet Pepsi Vanilla.
Which one?
It’s not really an ‘addiction.’ It’s a culture.
People don’t value things that take time or effort anymore. All they want is their instant-gratification to forget about their shitty lives a little bit longer. Short-form video and posts provide this for them.
It’s all according to plan to keep people apathetic until the day they die. That way, they never fight back against the people pulling their strings.
They’re gonna build a firewall, and the US is gonna pay for it!
China: we’re supposed to be doing the influencing here.
This is a hilarious turn of events.
I knew it was coming since that article yesterday about us Americans posting vids of 3D printed guns lmao
Luigi is now the most popular name for newborns in China.
Please let this be true 🤣
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This was the turn of events anyone who knows anything about China and the CCP (and how closely they control businesses there) would have expected.
TikTok is banned in China, so why would anyone ever expect this would be different in this case?
They have Douyin (it’s a carbon copy of tiktok). Rednote released a public statement welcoming US users, no evidence that what this article implies is being considered at all. The evidence is a reddit post. You are responding in agreement to a propaganda rag.
They blocked the TikTok domain in China. What would you call that, if not a ban?
You are naive if you believe they aren’t going to sever the communities. That was always going to happen.
The only vibe I get from you is “15yo who just learned about politics”.
AN: read this user’s comment history lmao
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Why don’t you answer the question?
Why is it a different product then? Does it allow the same content? Same algorithm?
Or is it different, and not an actual carbo copy?
They are different like McDonald’s and Burger King. While similar, Douyin is only available for people in China and it’s heavenly censored and have a lot propaganda from Chinese government.
Proof?
What are you asking for exactly? You can’t buy a whooper in McDonald’s
The last portion of your comment. Curious if you had proof
But TikTok is still banned by China… Chinese people cannot sign up for TikTok and communicate with the outside world.
Imo it’s more sad than hilarious. US users and Chinese users meeting each other on the platform and discovering they are interesting people who actually have a lot in common sounds like what I’d wish the internet to be.
It’s not surprising, and I get the irony, but I feel more sad than amused.You know, the news about Chinese and American users comparing their worldviews seemed weird to me because it reads like this is the first time Chinese and American users have interacted and had the chance to talk “candidly”.
My first thought was, “Why the fuck is this news? It’s not like Chinese users can’t interact on American platfor—”
…oh. Right. The great firewall.
Nearly everyone on rednote knows how to use a VPN.
I totally agree with you.
We shouldn’t be cheering on segregation.
LMAO
Hahaha
Can’t have them getting ideas like tolerance for minorities.
Not from America. America is full of hatred towards minorities.
Oh come off it mate. It’s not hard to see where the US has lead the charge in topics such as LGBT+ rights or racial equality, and it wasn’t from Asia or Europe let me tell you that much.
They may have a shit ton of flaws, and have a large part actively trying to undo all their work, but they have still done so much positive.
Look at the timeline for marriage equality for instance, they were right up there with the first wave leading the global surge. That doesn’t happen if you’re full of hatred for them.
They’re a dichotomy of amazing social progressivism and brutal conservatism.
This timeline?
Where the US is nearly the last of any western nation to legalise gay marriage?And isn’t your country actively trying to work back any progress you’ve had in the last decade? Trans rights, queer rights, women’s rights, minority rights.
Also isn’t it Americans who are pushing the most for anti-LGBT legislation in African countries?
Canada is falling down the same hill when it comes to trans rights, and it hurts me, but I’m not out here saying that Canada is any sort of leader in the field. I recognise the issues my country has and I’m going to fight to fix them.
Knock off the American exceptionalism for one second and deal with the problems your country has
Mahatey, it’s not my fucking country or American exceptionalism because I’m not American eh?
This timeline:
And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t think Canada is not one of the best places in the world for rights. Go take a holiday to 90% of the world and let me know how they treat women or queers.
Didn’t realise you weren’t American, sorry for assuming. Admittedly I’m very jaded right now (and a bit drunk) with all the threats of invasion and with Americans either laughing it off or being all for it (and I recognise that’s not all Americans but it’s enough).
And fine, yeah Canada is pretty up there for LGBT rights, but when one of the main platform points (imported from the USA!) from the Conservatives right now seems to be just straight up attacking trans people, it makes me pretty worried. I have multiple family members and a few friends who are trans or non binary and the rhetoric is scary.
But TL;DR, not angry at you, just America(ns). I apologise to the good Americans, but your country is exporting a lot of bullshit right now. More than usual
American here. I would love for us to come up and take over your country.
You piggyback on our military, and I believe any detriments to Canada will be balanced by benefits to America.
Wait where’s china, russia, turkey, iran, dprk, or any of those countries on this list? They were all before 2000, right? Right?
I didn’t say there were no positives from America did I? I didn’t rank where America stands in how progressive or conservative America is.
I said America is full of hatred towards Minorities with no comparison to another place.
I am not wrong. There is too much of it.
So “come off” what exactly?
I said America is full of hatred towards Minorities with no comparison to another place. I am not wrong.
But you are wrong. The US doesn’t hate its minorities in general. The US hates the poor in specific.
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The same goes if you replace “billionaire” with “poor”. If you are rich, you are welcome. That’s your only qualifier. If you are poor, you are trash. That is your only qualifier.
When I say America I mean the people of America. There are large numbers of folks, regardless of why they do, hate minorities.
I didn’t say the wealthy “elite” weren’t the cause of a lot of the divide. They absolutely are. No such thing as an ethical billionaire.
I’m not disagreeing with you on the fact that your financial status isn’t what really separates us. What I am saying is there is still too much hate towards minorities. That doesn’t change that the wealthy are a problem.
You’re taking two separate ideas and merging them into one “truth.”
They ate two separate topics. Just because the wealthy are guilty of the bad they are doing doesn’t take away the fact that there is too much hate towards minorities in America from the people that live here.
I don’t think that’s entirely true and Thiel will learn that lesson sooner or later. Arguably already has as he was rumored to have been pissed about all the anti-trans rhetoric and throttled spending, which is why Elon had to step up and shell out.
Now Musk is in the driver seat with a grudge he hasn’t paid back from PayPal and Thiel’s in danger of finding out after fucking around.
Decep is right.
Not from America. America is full of hatred towards minorities.
You’re basically implying the bad outweighs the good to the point that it won’t give them any ideas.
The bad may be very amplified now, but I think the TikTok crowd in particular and US history skews towards “majority good”
I didn’t imply that. Stating that there is too much hatred of minorities doesn’t mean that America fails at everything. That is a stretch. Me pointing out that America has a lot of hatred towards minorities isn’t a reflection of everything America does as a whole is inherently bad.
I didn’t say that America can’t have a good influence on another country. America isn’t one to look to especially now for how minorities are treated.
Mexico had their first black president in 1829 and abolished slavery. The US was a century too late to lead such a thing. Your comment reeks of western chauvinism.
. . . You don’t think Mexico is western?
And who said anything about the first black president or abolishing slavery? Mexico didn’t give women the right to vote until 50 years after we did here in Australia, does that mean you reek as well? What an odd stand to try and make.
Lmao, way to go, I’m not even Mexican. You said the US was leading the charge and included racism, that’s a silly statement, so I pointed out the absurdity of it.
Mexico is culturally western, but not white, ergo, not politically western. And Australia, you’re British diaspora from a country constantly attacking the aboriginals through even their votes. While Mexico can be lacking, they’re the ones with a female president and abortion rights, so again, the americans leading the charge is a humorous statement.
Not significantly more than anywhere else.
I didn’t compare to any place. I just stated America is filled with hatred towards minorities.
You singled it out. Which was incorrect. Hatred of minorities is common in every culture on every continent of the Earth. It’s a basic human nature thing. And America isn’t special in that respect. Hell when you get into large monocultures like China Etc the racism and hatred of minorities gets even more extreme and specific. In fact a lot of those hatreds have been imported from all over. The Koreans hatred of the japanese. The Japanese is hatred of the Chinese and vice versa. Various Indian sects hatred of each other. And the colorful bigotry of Europe and the Mediterranean. But one thing it is also produced here in America that is a little less common than elsewhere. Are people that actually are much more tolerant and supportive of minorities. Unfortunately they’re not the ones in control but they do exist.
Singling out a problem that exists in a country I am very familiar with is a non problem. I didn’t state it was special to America. I didn’t speak on any other nation and their hatred of minorities. I didn’t even state anything about it being part of “human nature.”
I spoke on being familiar with the fact that it is a problem in America.
There is a lot of hatred towards minorities, but there’s also a lot of acceptance of them that would be out of place in most of the world.
From Americans?
America is of the few nations that has to deal with real diversity, so yes.
no chance of that
Well of course not, they’re deleting the content.
Lol. Lmao, even.
Jk, my real thoughts is: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
God that’s a dream. I wish Trump would build a virtual wall to protect americans against foreigners opinions.
It would be so peaceful. Imagine a yankless internet. No more spam.
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Basically a virtual Berlin wall around the whole of the US?
Lmao
I don’t even like TikTok but I’m so happy with how hard this whole thing is backfiring. Warms my heart
Tom cotton already made threats about banning rednote as well 😂
Most of my lab mates are Chinese and I joined WeChat because it was what they all used. Everything was fine except my account kept getting banned for no reason. I had assumed it might be because I accidentally turned on a VPN, but ultimately I concluded it was because they didn’t want the intermingling of Chinese and American accounts, which was literally the only reason I was there in the first place.
I been told Wechat requires phone number, do they not check VOIP numbers or did they just not block your number for creation? That’s super weird.
They have (or had) a system for reactivation that involved endorsement from another account. IIRC it was QR code based, so one of my friends would scan my reactivation QR code and a few verification texts later I’d have my account back. The last time I was banned, it was after I hearted one of my friend’s posts about his graduation.
Ohh that makes sense.
Go for it. I have my doubts that there is really any mass migration of English language users to an all Chinese website to begin with. The whole thing feels like a propaganda campaign.
Idk, I went on there earlier and watched some of the live interactions, there does seem to be a large amount of English speaking people who are messaging the live creators and the creators are responding in their best possible English.
It’s actually quite nice to see two different cultures coming together.
But I’m sure that if they wall off the rest of China to the US users the app will lose its shine and people will move on somewhere else.
What did the FUD surrounding Tiktok (and Huawei) feel like to you?
A wee quote from the author of the original little red book …:
“the two slogans – let a hundred flowers blossom and let a hundred schools of thought contend – have no class character; the proletariat can turn them to account, and so can the bourgeoisie or others. Different classes, strata and social groups each have their own views on what are fragrant flowers and what are poisonous weeds”.Seemed a good idea at the time (1957?), remember how that trick evolved thereafter …?
Every government is scared of these dumb kids lol
