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We need to save and remember this moment. The assholes are already rewriting history as we speak.
Welp! I didn’t have “President gives Nazi salute” on my bingo card…
You didn’t?
Yeah, rookie mistakes given we already know who is elected.
Look man. I don’t know what to tell you. I know trump was already president from 2017-2021, but that still doesn’t feel real. The idea of trump is president feels…not real. It feels like a plot from a tv show. And not even a GOOD tv show. Some show that nobody watches because “ugh, this is crap…change the channel!”
Except we CAN’T change the channel. And by popular vote Americans have decided they don’t WANT to change the channel. And you’re just handcuffed to your chair, forced to watch this bad reality all around you.
It’s like being on a roller coaster that you know has a 100% chance of flying off the rails. But you’re still on it. Knowing disaster awaits, as we’ve spent the last 3 months climbing the anticipation hill, except now it’s time to go flying off the rails. Here it comes!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee…
Normalcy bias is a bitch. Congratulations on at least being aware of how not normal the situation is intellectually, it seems most people aren’t getting that far.
I want to get off Mr. Bones’s Wild Ride.
We’re all on Mr Bones’ Wild Ride now. At least we’re in good company 🫂
I don’t know how to tell you this, but you can’t get off
Like wearing a chastity belt…
At least there is some kind of positive intent or consent (usually), not so on Mr.Bones’ Wild Ride
He’s not the president.
So people told me I was being an overdramatic dick when I pointed the multiple similarities between the rise of Hitler and Trump and how the Nazis are coming back.
They’re back, out and disgustingly proud.
I’ll be showing them the footage and awaiting their bullshittery gymnastics. Wonder how they will spin it.
In the meantime while everyone is looking at Elon Donald is signing executive orders to
- Grant top secret security clearances to White House staff without going through traditional vetting procedures.
- Open the Alaska wilderness to more oil and gas drilling.
- Eliminate environmental justice programs across the government, which are aimed at protecting poor communities from excess pollution.
- Move to end birthright citizenship, which is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, for the children of undocumented immigrants.
- Declare migrant crossings along the U.S.-Mexico border to be a national emergency
- Remove protections for transgender people in federal prisons.
- Ensure that states carrying out the death penalty have a “sufficient supply” of lethal injection drugs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/trump-executive-orders-list.html
Looked this up as I optimistically thought it might be an unfortunate still that looked nothing like a nazi salute on video, but nope.
Gotta love the Murdoch media…
If he did it once, sure could be argued to be accidental, but he did it pretty forcefully, multiple times, and he baaaaarely has plausible deniability that he didn’t mean this as a wink wink to the neo-nazis.
Well, he must have fallen out of the headlines for a day.
I’m calling it, to keep outdoing himself he’s going to openly and seriously start suggesting nuking things.
“Mr. President, there was a nuclear detonation over Kiev”
“Did we do it?”
“No Sir, it seem to have been the Americans”
(obviously this conversation would be in Russian, but most of us here don’t speak/read Russian so here’s the English version)
“so yes”
- Don’t infantilise him. He’s not attention-starved, he’s a Nazi.
- Did everyone forget Trump already did that during his first term??? I am going absolutely insane. We know he will threaten to nuke anyone and everyone. And right now the odds aren’t looking good that he won’t actually do it. That’s my call. Nuclear war. People called me crazy in 2020 when I called Trump a fascist, and my worst predictions will be proven right again because everyone seems to be dead-set on downplaying the actions of these Nazi lunatics and acting surprised when they pull through with a Nazi promise which only emboldens them.
- No, he seems attention starved. Maybe he’s a Nazi as well, or maybe he’s just okay with Nazis. Honestly, supporting them to get your rocks off might be worse than genuinely agreeing with them, so that’s not really letting him off the hook.
- Self-correction: Nuking people, maybe in a fellow NATO country. The hurricane thing was dumb but pretty much just dumb, Elon would have to go bigger to stay relevant.
Trumps a fascist but I think he’s bluffing about nukes. He’s been consistently anti war since before entering politics and he knows he doesn’t want to be a king amongst rubble.
I think Trump is the kind of person who thinks the world is better off ending with him than going on without him. Nothing matters if he isn’t there to enjoy it; the true heart of narcissism.
I mean hes old AF, living his remaining 2 years in a luxuary presidential bunker isn’t that bad of a retirement plan.
Vance, however, probably doesn’t want to live decades in some bunker, so the only way to stop a crazy nuke-happy fascist seems to be a less crazy fascist (via 25th amendment). 🤦♂️
His anti-war stance such as… trying to incite a war with Iran, only failing to do so because his generals didn’t cooperate? Those same generals he now is going to get rid of because he hasn’t forgiven them for it? That anti-war stance?
The only times he’s anti-war is when it pisses off Obama and/or makes Putin happy.
Elon: If I can’t nuke Mars, I will order Trump to nuke Earth instead.
I wouldn’t put it past Musk to be planning on a nuke strike somewhere to boost investment in SpaceX. “See, life on earth is fragile, we have to be able to leave (if you’re rich enough)!”
Something something bronterocs
I am actually speechless.
he adds “my heart goes out to you”, so it was actually just Elon being really fucking stupid again
I litterly followed the same train But bro it’s undeniable
Just… blatant. Plenty of time lingering on it. No cute pretending-to-fix-the-hair. Just an obvious, blatant nazi salute.
Here’s a gif
I wish. 😞
What was the context, in terms of his speech? Did he say something right before this or after it?
what was he saluting when he turned around? Trump? I cant find a better angle.
He’s saluting the crowd for their support
What a dumb fucking cunt. I hope he dies a terrible death. Rather sooner than later.
What’s funny (not really) it’s the media calling it a “nazi style salute” or “a gesture that looked like a nazi salute”.
Their head is so far up their asses that they can’t even call it what it was.
You know what the worst part of this is? This run of western fascism doesn’t even have the aesthetics to make it palatable. That “seig heil” was so fucking uncoordinated it made the Australian break dancing lady look like a prima ballerina. Everyone is dressed like they bought clothes from the bargain bin at Ross. The decorations are giving mid-budget state fair.
We’re gonna be ethnically cleansed by old, poorly dressed, unatheltic losers 😭
Remember when everyone hated on regular Russian citizens for not forming a rebellious revolution against Putin and assassinating him in his sleep? For not shooting every Russian oligarch and everyone who rubber stamped the invasion of Ukraine? Remember when people called them cowards and “as good as nazis” for being complacent and not getting up and doing something about it?
Where are you keyboard warriors now that the USA needs you?
Just sayin’
Bro, where have you been?
And trump saying elon rigged the ballots in Pennsylvania. Even if it were true it’s exactly what I’ve been saying. We are done with free and fair elections and the sooner you dweeebs stop running to the dems to save you the better off we will be.
The real rigging wasn’t at the polls, Democratic and Independent poll watchers didn’t report any significant election irregularities.
The real rigging was via unlimited billionaire funds to fill the media with propaganda (see Firehose of Falsehood), exacerbated by voter roll purges.
Why even manipulate the vote count itself, when you can just effectively brainwash the voters themselves via unlimited propaganda.
I didn’t claim that it was. Trump is signaling his intention, though. He’s going to let the liberal media work themselves up about how you cannot rig elections then do just that. Sorry you’re so nieve to not understand how this works yet. Good luck to you.
Which is partly why they are “banning” tiktok. They want American control over the algorithm and to get rich by making it American owned.
I was hoping they would sell it to Elon so he could turn it into a far-right propaganda platform like he did with Xitter but it seems like they managed to do it anyways lol
I’m sure after the 90 days is up it will end up in musk or zucks hands
I’m not American, so I’m all words and no action in this case. But yeah, we’re all sensing the dread coming from your side of the pond. The tension is so high, you’re basically a camel with the biggest amount of straws on it’s back that I’ve ever seen. And there’s a new straw every week.
It’s an avalanche of straws at this point it’s pretty wild honestly.
the sooner you dweeebs stop running to the dems to save you the better off we will be.
Yeah let me just vote for… oh wait there’s only 2 god damn parties.
Third parties aren’t an answer and will only strengthen republicans. The only possible course is to steer the democrats out of the ditch. Unfortunately they have built a masonry bunker down in there and this will take some doing. We need about 20-30 more young people to do what AOC did and we’ll be getting somewhere.
Now is literally the time to fight for a new party. We’re 4 years away from a general election, the next elections are local which means it’s way more realistic and up to all of us to actually go and run with/vote for this “new” party. We have 4 years to work on the message getting a wider spread and even if it doesn’t, we’ll have the Congress if all goes well.
The Democratic party can die in a fire.
I understand the way you’re feeling. I have been there too. What you should fight for is a new Democratic Party, not a third party that will simply siphon votes from them, helping Republicans. Inagine doing all the work you describe only to realize you’ve been working against yourself the whole time. That’s what would happen.
A new party feels exciting because it’s new and you will have more control over it. But it’s like rushing out to create a “new” road system because of traffic and potholes. I know it’s not exciting but incremental change for the better is a far better use of your energy than thinking you can go out and create sweeping change by starting a third party. If you think the Democrats suck, go BE A BETTER DEMOCRAT. Like Bernie Sanders did. You don’t see him starting a third party.
It’s ultimately just math.
I believe Sanders is actually independent and just votes with Democrats because they’re the current only option.
We cannot afford to chain ourselves to a corporate focused party that will never have our best interest in mind. We have 4 years to start working on this, we can’t keep doing this “it’s too late” thing over and over and over and over. The Democratic party is still refusing to accept what they did wrong. They’re pulling this whole “it was a messaging problem” thing as if they just need to lie to us harder and somehow we’ll get them back in office.
I’m tired of 40 years of the same thing. They aren’t changing.
I believe Sanders is actually independent and just votes with Democrats because they’re the current only option.
Bingo. Do that.
All your complaints are valid. I hear you and I share the pain. I’ve been putting up with it even longer.
A third party is still not the answer. It has never been, and will never be until the entire system of government and elections is completely different. Under existing conditions it is suicide, and a gift to Republicans.
I know this is hard to accept. I’m sorry. But I’d rather give it to you straight than blow smoke up your ass about organizing a whole new party to win in 4 years.
There are other parties but people are seemingly too scared to vote for them and would prefer things continue down this path to ruin we’ve been on for the last 40-50 years.
I mean, unless you can gut unrealistically broad consensus on which third party to vote for you just get Ross Perot again.
The US system is designed in a way that basically makes 2 parties a hard upper limit. If you want(ed) finer control than voting for the least worst candidate, you have to consider showing up to primaries and boring activist meetings.
You must be European. I admire your voting system.
But unfortunately, USA runs under FPTP. We do not have European Luxury.
Party A: We will make teeny tiny bit of progress
Party B: We will try to destroy every progress ever made
Party C: We will make a lot of progress
Election Results:
Party A gets 45% of the vote
Party B gets 48% of the vote
Party C gets 6% of the vote
remaining votes are incorrectly marked and therefore invalidated
Under first past the post rules, Party B wins, even when the majority wanted some progress, no matter how small, now the party of regression and destruction are in power.
Good job.
TDLR: Fuck FPTP voting system, we really need ranked choice voting system.
The problem becomes even more stark if you assume parties A and C win 25% and 26%. Heck, let’s make B even more unpopular with a 34-35-31 split. There is an incredible amount of movement required to make a new party dominant and competitive in our fucked up system.
Not European I live in the US.
Counterpoint to this is that you sacrifice your principles and vote Party A and they still wind up losing again and again leaving Party B to run the entire government. Your vote was a throwaway vote anyway, so what would have been the harm in voting Party C?
Perhaps with enough momentum, Party C can reinvigorate the 50% of eligible voters who don’t even bother to show up due to years of disappointment and apathy with both Party A and Party B. How many times are you willing to vote Party A if they keep backing terrible candidates who can’t win, and even when they do by razor thin margins, do little to stem the tide of destruction? What are you gaining out of this system?
I’d argue that your mentality only encourages poor performance out of our elected officials and these two parties since they can count on you, and those on the other side, to vote for them regardless of what they do or don’t do, how well or bad they perform, and whatever promises they may or may not keep. What is even the point of voting for candidates when all you’re doing is voting for a specific party? They might as well make the election automatic based on whatever party everyone registers as. What’s the difference?
To me, this mentality is no different than those apathetic voters who sit out every election because all you’re doing is keeping this fucked up system going and expecting things to get better without doing anything different to change the outcome.
FYI, primary elections exist, but most people don’t bother voting in primaries.
“Europe” isn’t a singular country with one voting system.
You’re saying this isn’t a real picture with accurate information???
True. But most European countries have parliamentary democracies with more or less proportional representation. Then the details vary wildly.
(Although the UK has FPTP single candidate constituencies so they’re nearly as bad)
People are scared to vote for them because of our FPTP voting system.
Yeah, well, we see how well that’s working out.
Bernie Sanders ran as a Democratic socialist.
Did you not just hear me? Free and fair election. What does that mean to you?
Words, do they have meanings???
It’s hard to talk to liberals and get them to understand that the system the states has set up means that just voting for the democrats doesn’t change anything. The elections are not fair.
Not hard, impossible. Say it with any oomph and you’ll get a ban.
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So when you look and see that most Americans didn’t vote at all, like lowest turnout ever, you look at that and you think “well they just don’t like to vote!” The mental gymnastics you guys do is crazy.
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Lol it already fell apart doing it your way. But believe what you want.
This is what we call griefing, friends. Notice how the OP didn’t bother to respond. It’s because the OP is a smurf.
the sooner you dweeebs stop running to the dems to save you the better off we will be.
Fucking THANK YOU. Been saying this since 2016.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt for 8 years. 8 fucking years. To see their performance during the last election. For me lending them all my support and walking away with nothing to show for it. Trump back in office and the party still coalescing around some of their most inept members after being so badly defeated in every way shape and form. It’s pathetic. Also it doesn’t matter anymore. Moving forward we should expect elections won’t be free or fair. If there is a way out it’s not through any available route and a new path will have to be made.
They haven’t been free or fair since 2000 when bush and co stole it
I was absolutely flabbergasted back then that they did nothing to stop a coup, and I’m not surprised at all anymore about their magical inability to do anything but please the donor class.
If you’re using some loose definition you can go all the way back in time and say the same. Remember the 3/5ths compromise? Remember women suffrage? Yea, that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking a putin regime oligarchy. Welcome to it. And fuck you for trying to obsfucate.
The democrats are spineless and care more about norms than fighting fascists. But I expect nothing less than a shit lib take from a world user.
2000 was literally a coup and those who participated on behalf of the republicans were handsomely rewarded with SCOTUS positions and a top spot at Facebook.
This is not an argument. You suck at this.
I went back 24 years involving many of the same players as today and you’re going back 100+.
“MildlyInfuriating”
Nah, this belongs in “ActuallyHorrifying”
I guess don’t visit the new https://www.whitehouse.gov/ then.
Is that a fucking movie trailer? Wtaf
Jebus.
I wish I could say we just gotta wait 4 years but I wouldn’t believe if I said it. The US is past a fucking joke. Just… Fucking dammit…
Can we just go to the old whitehouse.com?
Careful. That sort of smut is banned in our free country.
Unless you use a VPN. Which they’re probably now targeting…
Whoa now. That’s crazy talk.
Next you’re going to tell me they want everyone to be registered online to our IDs so we can be tracked. I mean to save the children. 🇺🇸
And then you’d prolly suggest something wild like they are putting back doors in our encryption and communication networks so they can track us further … I mean to save the children. 🇺🇸🦅
I suppose then just for fun you’d toss in something utterly insane like keeping track of us with camera systems and arresting us using those cameras - purely on speculation alone… I mean to save the children. 🇺🇸🦅🫡
And you’d be an absolute comedian - Because what are we… some crazy country like all those bad ones we talk about? Nonono. Not only are we free - #Buy God™, we’re gonna save those kids. 🇺🇸🦅🫡🎇🎆🎇
(Yes the spelling was intentional)
Yeah I figured we had a year or two at least before slowly taking off the mask and showing the true fascism. This was just right out of the gate.
The mask has been slowly coming off for at least 15 years. If you haven’t noticed and this seems like a surprise, I honestly don’t know what to say.
The nazis are wasting no time gloating.
Why not? There’s been no penalty. No widespread social ostracizing, no legal justice, no political punishment… This is who they are, and enough Americans are okay with that that they don’t have to pretend otherwise.
The only good nazis are dead nazis.
What? What… what…? …??
Help, how do I escape this cursed timeline
Is…is the context also what I’m thinking?
Yes, it’s exactly what you’re thinking. Just like Laura Ingraham in 2016
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/07/laura-ingrahams-nazi-salute-examined.html
Well, well, well… that’s how the cookie crumbles
