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That could be crap-ass dabbing though.
Yes, Elon Musk’s a fascist but i dislike echo-chambers.Real talk.
The richest men on the planet Earth are surrounding and and giving gifts/favors to a man who holds the highest position in a World Superpower with one of the largest militaries on the planet.
What can we realistically do to fight a possible incoming Nazi regime?
Looked this up as I optimistically thought it might be an unfortunate still that looked nothing like a nazi salute on video, but nope.
Gotta love the Murdoch media…
If he did it once, sure could be argued to be accidental, but he did it pretty forcefully, multiple times, and he baaaaarely has plausible deniability that he didn’t mean this as a wink wink to the neo-nazis.
Well, he must have fallen out of the headlines for a day.
I’m calling it, to keep outdoing himself he’s going to openly and seriously start suggesting nuking things.
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“so yes”
- Don’t infantilise him. He’s not attention-starved, he’s a Nazi.
- Did everyone forget Trump already did that during his first term??? I am going absolutely insane. We know he will threaten to nuke anyone and everyone. And right now the odds aren’t looking good that he won’t actually do it. That’s my call. Nuclear war. People called me crazy in 2020 when I called Trump a fascist, and my worst predictions will be proven right again because everyone seems to be dead-set on downplaying the actions of these Nazi lunatics and acting surprised when they pull through with a Nazi promise which only emboldens them.
- No, he seems attention starved. Maybe he’s a Nazi as well, or maybe he’s just okay with Nazis. Honestly, supporting them to get your rocks off might be worse than genuinely agreeing with them, so that’s not really letting him off the hook.
- Self-correction: Nuking people, maybe in a fellow NATO country. The hurricane thing was dumb but pretty much just dumb, Elon would have to go bigger to stay relevant.
Trumps a fascist but I think he’s bluffing about nukes. He’s been consistently anti war since before entering politics and he knows he doesn’t want to be a king amongst rubble.
His anti-war stance such as… trying to incite a war with Iran, only failing to do so because his generals didn’t cooperate? Those same generals he now is going to get rid of because he hasn’t forgiven them for it? That anti-war stance?
The only times he’s anti-war is when it pisses off Obama and/or makes Putin happy.
I think Trump is the kind of person who thinks the world is better off ending with him than going on without him. Nothing matters if he isn’t there to enjoy it; the true heart of narcissism.
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Elon: If I can’t nuke Mars, I will order Trump to nuke Earth instead.
I wouldn’t put it past Musk to be planning on a nuke strike somewhere to boost investment in SpaceX. “See, life on earth is fragile, we have to be able to leave (if you’re rich enough)!”
Something something bronterocs
I wish. 😞
I am actually speechless.
he adds “my heart goes out to you”, so it was actually just Elon being really fucking stupid again
I litterly followed the same train But bro it’s undeniable
What was the context, in terms of his speech? Did he say something right before this or after it?
Just… blatant. Plenty of time lingering on it. No cute pretending-to-fix-the-hair. Just an obvious, blatant nazi salute.
Here’s a gif
what was he saluting when he turned around? Trump? I cant find a better angle.
He’s saluting the crowd for their support
It feels like the Nazis are passing beyond living memory so there are few people alive who remember how bad they were.
Said it before, saying it again. A state that willing to support a live streamed genocide, worst case war crimes, have no regards of women and children, will never care about it is own people.
I dont think Elon Musk is a nazi. I’ve never seen any evidence that he is a nazi nor have I ever seen any presented. I think he is an asshole that harasses people for his personal satisfaction. He is so rich that no matter what happens he, his children, and all their children will all enjoy the highest quality lives available. There may also be some chemical addiction mixed in there as well as some mental illness.
I guess I’m going to be the one that plays devil’s advocate as there is no context here other than a still image, but is it possible he wasn’t intentionally doing a Nazi salute and has just been caught in an incredibly awkward pose?
Mildly?
Ever think about what’s in the middle of a swastika?
How many Americans right now are going to be like the Jews in Germany in the 1930s? They’re a targeted group and can see what’s coming, but for some reason aren’t doing everything in their power to get away before they’re rounded up and thrown in camps?
Lookit his face. Makes me wanna slap the text FUCKTARD on it
Honestly I try not to get caught up in all the drama.
I could care less about what they do since I don’t have any control over it.
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The problem is liberals only speak out, in action they don’t do shit to protect the vulnerable, they never hold their own politicians accountable for their inaction.
We aren’t talking about Nazi Germany here. If there is something going down I want to know about it. However, so far it is just been more gossip type stuff than anything.
The news and media likes to drive engagement. To do that they create strong emotions.
We aren’t talking about Nazi Germany here.
In a thread with a video of Elon Musk giving a Nazi Seig Heil twice. The same Elon Musk who threw down his support of Germany’s far-right AfD party. The same Elon Musk who threw a live event for them on Twitter.
If you can’t see what’s going on here you have done a miraculous job at keeping yourself ignorant. This is all about Nazi Germany. Except that now it’s Nazi America.
Well America is backing Israel so I don’t see Antisemitic views going anywhere.
Currently a lot of the Anti semitism come from people blaming Jews for what’s happening in Gaza. There have been a lot of attacks on Mosques and even some anti Israel protests in front of them.
In short I don’t think the Trump administration is Nazi. There other words you could use but Nazi is not one of them.
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I meant synagogue not Mosque. However, there have been attacks on both.
I think you’re under the impression that Nazis only killed Jews or that they have a particular link with them. Nearly half the victims of the holocaust were not Jews. They didn’t even start with killing Jews. They worked up to them later. They started with homosexuals, the disabled, sick, Slavic peoples, Roma (gypsies).
The numbers generally referenced are that of the 11 million people murdered in the holocaust, 6 million were Jewish, and 5 million were not.
No one (except for a very few nut jobs) is blaming Jews for the genocide that is happening, they’re blaming the state of Israel. The current government and individual people making the decisions. Disagreeing with apartheid Israel does not equal ‘blaming jews’.
Also, look into Christian Zionism. There are a lot of literal nazis and other antisemites who are thrilled about backing Israel right now, because they think that this is all part of a prophecy that brings about the end times or something… And this prophecy does not end well for Jews. So no, supporting Israel does not necessarily mean someone isn’t antisemetic right now either.
There other words you could use but Nazi is not one of them.
I’d be quite interested in what that would be…
That they have the courage to actually do a Nazi-salute, very likely without consequences, what is it if it is not Nazi?
We aren’t talking about Nazi Germany here
Yet
That’s fair enough
I just find it annoying that some people take a few clips and images and draw wild conclusions. Right now the US is backing Israel so I don’t think we will see Trump attacking Jews any time soon.
Jews weren’t the sole target of the Nazis. Liberals, socialists, communists, union members, homosexuals etc etc.
I don’t think anyone believes Musk and his bestie is gonna round up Jews in concentration camps. But maybe in time it could be the aforementioned people.So Elon Musk heiling on stage, expressing love for the nazi-lite patry in Germany (of all places) and the President cozying up to Israel where one of the minister describes himself as “fascist” is maybe not wild conclusions.
Not seeing this for what it is is missing the forrest for all trees.
draw wild conclusions
What’s your conclusion of this obvious Nazi salute?
I don’t know since this is just one image.
It’s not an image, it’s a video where he does it twice, in a very obvious way, it’s linked multiple times around here already.
The Nazis are associated with the Holocaust rightfully so, but it ends up with people thinking that all it entails is anti-semitism. Trump and Elon Musk can back Israel and be Nazis.
You have a literal video-taped proof that it’s Nazi USA and you talk about gossip?
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That’s the Russian way. „I don’t have control, I don’t really know, better not get involved“.
The problem is, I kind of feel the same way. It’s just too much at some point.
Watering the tree of liberty something or other.
Yes, part of the authoritarian playbook is to train the populace to disengage from politics.
Well, that they already did
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
So interesting thing to note from history, in many cases western people or nations pulled ahead by betraying non-western allies or peoples. The prosperity of the current globalist, neoliberal world is built on multicultural alliances.
Basically people like this are signaling to anyone who’s paying attention and has been keeping score of historical record “DONT TRUST US, WE WILL BETRAY YOU!!”. There’s just not enough economic activity in the western nations to uphold their current levels of activity and productivity without multicultural alliances, so this is an interesting turn.
Power is an interesting concept because a lot of it is assumed on the part of those who claim it, and those who relinquish it often don’t even realize the cards they hold because they’re gaslit into believing the lies of their opponents. What a shitty and annoying world, and here I was hoping for a Star Trek future in my lifetime.
Lastly, the whole “white supremacy” thing doesn’t make sense when there are people of Persian descent who are more Aryan than many white Europeans, so that’s a huge lol.