• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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    865 months ago

    Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.

  • @[email protected]
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    235 months ago

    People share photos and videos all the time on mastodon. What is the difference with pixelfed?

    • @[email protected]
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      435 months ago

      Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.

      People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.

      Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.

      • @[email protected]
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        265 months ago

        Every one of these federated apps needs a strong meme feed. Just an endless stream of shitposts and funny content. Doesn’t need to be doomscrolling, just needs to be a constantly available source of low effort junk food content

    • @[email protected]
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      295 months ago

      It’s like saying “people share photos and videos all the time on Twitter. What is the difference with Instagram?”

      • @[email protected]
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        65 months ago

        So one is for spreading right wing propaganda and one is for shilling knockoff perfumes?

          • @[email protected]
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            45 months ago

            As a software guy, that just sounds like one bit of software with two audiences that call it different things.

            Everyone seems to be stepping on each others toes anyway, with “reels” and shit trying desperately to claw back some of those kids lost to TikTok.

            Honestly not sure why the Fediverse is split that way either. A Lemmy client surely contains about 99% of the code to be a Mastodon client or Loops or Pixelfed or any of the others. Just looks like a procession of people constantly reinventing the wheel and painting it a different colour…

    • MysticKetchup
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      285 months ago

      Better UI and a better discover page mainly. Plus it’s gotten a lot of organic advertising just from luck and people talking about it, and no obvious competitor like Bluesky

  • @[email protected]
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    195 months ago

    … which is absolutely understandable considering how lemmy is most of the time,

    it’s politics non-stop, one bad news after another, everyone is quick to bash somebody as either a nazi or a tankie or something else.

        • @[email protected]
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          45 months ago

          The open display of oligarchy at the inauguration has a bunch of people suddenly turned off of corporate social media sites in general. It’s a meme, basically, but one that could have a positive effect. I’m happier about this than the people flocking to BlueSky.

    • Hanrahan
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      235 months ago

      Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”

      Not sure when he sleeps

      • @[email protected]
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        45 months ago

        Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.

      • Dragon Rider (drag)
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        65 months ago

        Is there federated Tumblr? @[email protected] is still on Tumblr and drag wants to get thing away from corporate media even if Tumblr has a better record than literally every other corpo media

          • Dragon Rider (drag)
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            25 months ago

            lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn’t get it either. Bot can explain.

        • @[email protected]
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          55 months ago

          Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.

          The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself

      • @[email protected]
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        I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.

        I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.

        • @[email protected]
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          85 months ago

          Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.

          • @[email protected]
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            145 months ago

            Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.

            By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.

            You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.

              • @[email protected]
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                35 months ago

                I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.

                All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.

              • ✺roguetrick✺
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                55 months ago

                Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.

          • @[email protected]
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            105 months ago

            That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.

            With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.

            • @[email protected]
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              65 months ago

              I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won’t release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.

              Of course that’s just issue number 1 of many to figure out.

                • @[email protected]
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                  45 months ago

                  It’s a matter of finding where the line between cost and user satisfaction meet.

                  Like sure you could limit all videos to 60fps @ 720p or 30fps @ 1080p but most everyone now wants everything 120fps @ 2160p which takes up dozens of gigs per video and eats up bandwidth.

      • r.EndTimes
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        75 months ago

        I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?

          • r.EndTimes
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            35 months ago

            If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other

            • @[email protected]
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              That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.

              The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. The two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.

              Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

              But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.

  • suoko
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    45 months ago

    So they really want to compete then? 🧐

    • poVoq
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      65 months ago

      They will join us once the long promised groups implementation is finally merged in Pixelfed.

    • mesaOP
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      135 months ago

      “compete” is a strong word. They can see us and we can see them. People are already posting from pixelfed to lemmy so its just pushing both platforms forward.

    • @[email protected]
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      45 months ago

      I wouldn’t say it was competing, it would be like saying Reddit and Instagram competed.

  • @[email protected]
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    25 months ago

    I want to use it more but the android app never works. What’s the deal? Keeps saying it’s trying to connect to an outdated instance of pixelfed.social.

  • @[email protected]
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    165 months ago

    I’m just worried a lack of content discovery, (foss) algorithms, other features and consistent development will have an adverse effect on this new growth. I’m glad that Dan finally got the apps on the stores at a critical moment though or we wouldn’t even be here.

    • @[email protected]
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      This is the issue. These apps don’t use algorithms that made the apps they are meant to replace popular in the first place. People may come, but I fear they won’t stay when it’s not an exact clone of what they know.

      • @[email protected]
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        75 months ago

        Only enough people need to stay to make it a viable alternative for many. And even if it’s just the first step in migration away from Twitter/Meta then that’s still at least a step taken.

      • @[email protected]
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        85 months ago

        At the very least though, at least the algorithms are open source so we know exactly how hot, rising, and scaled are sorted in Lemmy at least and so people who want those algorithms can choose if they wish and those who don’t want them don’t have to have them.

        We should train people to mindfully find content. Content discovery algorithms just encourage shitposting. Just put the top posts by favorites or boosts or whatever they are called on Pixelfed in a special trending feed and then just sort your follows by chronological and local by chronological. But as long as their is options, I won’t complain.

        • @[email protected]
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          55 months ago

          Searching hashtags needs to have sort options to make that happen. I want to see most recent and top liked too.

  • JaggedRobotPubes
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    125 months ago

    Everything helps.

    No corporations in social media. No venture capital in social media.