It is simple and free of bloat. I like it much better than that youtube shorts analog I can’t remember the name of.
Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it’s been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don’t personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.
The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials
Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.
Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that’s a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)
This is cool, seems to work pretty well, and an easy way to find communities you want to subscribe to
I just can’t imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It’s incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
Maybe a CDN funded through a few non-profits, never looked into it
I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.
You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.
Runs much faster than java BlueSky, the destroyer of batteries.
Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
Is this the fediverse’s answer to Instagram?
Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”
Not sure when he sleeps
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Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.
Is there federated Tumblr? @[email protected] is still on Tumblr and drag wants to get thing away from corporate media even if Tumblr has a better record than literally every other corpo media
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lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn’t get it either. Bot can explain.
Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.
The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself
Wafrn
I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.
I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.
Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.
Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.
By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.
You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.
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Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.
I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.
All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.
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That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.
With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.
I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won’t release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.
Of course that’s just issue number 1 of many to figure out.
Storage costs keeps getting cheaper, but high quality video keeps taking up more space.
It’s a matter of finding where the line between cost and user satisfaction meet.
Like sure you could limit all videos to 60fps @ 720p or 30fps @ 1080p but most everyone now wants everything 120fps @ 2160p which takes up dozens of gigs per video and eats up bandwidth.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
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If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other
Incorrect, I’m on dbzer0 and see all of LW just fine
Can they not see you? Or is it just piracy stuff
Just the one community about piracy. The rest can be seen both ways
That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.
The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. The two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.
Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.
Does this help?
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
Does the server matter at all? Wasn’t able to find a straight pixelfed.ca like I did with Lemmy, but it seems like people always end up dunking on the larger servers or defederating them because of Nazis.
fuck it, I tried mastodon, I’ll give pixelfed a try too.
Same, just created an account on metapixl.com even though I never used Instagram before
I’ve liked pixelfed. I don’t use it much though because my friends aren’t on it so I don’t see much of a point.
Thanks to Fedilab, I can’t tell the difference!
Just tried to sign up for over thirty minutes, this’ll always be the biggest barrier. I have an account but can’t seem to login.
It ain’t a competition!!!
Plus I see that pixelped crowd can join the shit posters if they so chose?
Win win for fedi
@atomicpoet just FYI. I couldnt figure out how to get the post directly in lemmy.world but thought I would mention it for you.
Unfortunately that doesn’t work in lw
Misskey seems really popular looking at numbers. I’m confused because nobody talks about it. Is it because of some niche super active audience?
It’s big in Japan. Most of the servers are Japanese.
Its active in the non-english circles from what I hear. Probably a part of it.
What are the top 2? Mastodon and what else?
By registered accounts:
- Mastodon
- Misskey
- PeerTube
How the fuck is peertube above Lemmy??? What the actual fuck??? Everytime I go there, it’s the same 3 people who’ve made like 5 daily videos about linux…and nothing else ever.
I get that I’m not exactly the target linux audience, but if KDE pulls an update from version 6.1 to 6.2, THAT IS NOT BREAKING NEWS!!! You do not need 10 videos discussing the 4 new features every time any linux software updates.
But THAT has more users than THIS??? It’s a broken down joke with a lot of potential that will never be realized until their search becomes intutive and all inclusive! I should have video results natively within the same page that pulls from ALL of peertube. Not just the current instance.
“Trending” should default to trending on all of peertube. You can include a filter to show trending on local instance only, but it shouldn’t be the default.
I literally had never even heard of Misskey and Peertube lol. I have a hard time thinking too mostly unknowns are bigger than Lemmy.
MissKey is like facebook. It’s mostly Japanese users.
Peertube is like is Youtube had the same instance/decentralized format as Lemmy.
Except Lemmy actually has a functional search that you don’t need to go to an external website to use. It’s really broken.
Misskey is like Mastodon but with more features
I think that there’s a lot more on PeerTube than it seems because discoverability is so terrible. I can’t confirm that, though, because I can’t find any of it.
Maybe something like FediSearch will make it more useful?
In some countries with vpn blocking it’s the only way to get videos. there’s also a lot of instances that don’t federate. The default English relays are quite bad for English speakers but in French for example there’s a huge amount of content.
thanks. the link for this gives me what looks like a terminal. I sorta wish there was more of a centralized login thing.
Mastodon is twitter, peer tube is youtube, foxelfed is Instagram… What is misskey?
Twitter. With a little google drive thrown into the mix. Plus simple custom algorithmic feeds. And some kooky animation stuff.
And also classic Facebook Social Games , Discord reaction, Facebook Groups, Facebook Photo Gallery, and some Japanese social media clone (that I forgot its name)
Word.
yay i guess?
SPLITTERS!
Still feels empty
Pixelfed does?
The app only allows for local posts and you can’t switch to global making it feel smaller than it is.
Are you on a smaller server? The local feeds of the larger ones are crazy right now.
The other apps all support the global feed. The web-ui does too. The Android app is not great right now so I’ve been using Pixelix. The global feed’s pretty useless though, IMO. You kind of get buried in Mastodon people “quoting” with images of text. They really need a Pixelfed-Global feed because it’s pretty damn hard to discover people on other Pixelfed servers right now.
Oh yeah, I can see how it could feel slow. 3000 active users vs. 160,000 on pixelfed.social.
Well, hope the global feed situation gets sorted out for you one way or another!
That might have been me:
Anyone have success joining pixelfed.art? Still waiting to get approved over a week later.
My account got deleted for inactivity like forever ago. I don’t post pics and there wasn’t much there at the time, I wish they’d have left it but I understand.
Anyway, what’s a good instance to make a new account? Mostly gonna lurk, don’t post pics much (or really at all), as I said.
I like gram.social
