Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

  • @[email protected]
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    3 months ago

    The US consumers voted for Trump to lower the price of eggs.

    The price of eggs is soaring today. Why? Because bird flu is killing chicken.

    So what does Trump do? He cancels research on bird flu. Surely the irony won’t be missed on the magats who voted him in.

    And now this: aggression against allied nations that will result in more price hikes. More irony for the maga morons to enjoy.

    It’s only been 4 days. It’s gonna be a long 4 years…

    • @[email protected]
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      253 months ago

      Surely the irony won’t be missed on the magats who voted him in.

      Oh… You have some completely unrealistic faith on Humanity…

      Of course they will miss the irony. And in 4 years, they will claim the constant 4 years of inflation on Biden.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      Trump won’t tolerate the 2028 election to remove him.

      The Civil War Part2 ocean-of-slaughter begins then.

      Please do not rely on hopium to protect you & your loved-ones.

      Please begin getting capable, or out, now.

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    • @[email protected]
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      23 months ago

      Surely the irony won’t be missed on the magats who voted him in.

      Someone would have to explain the concept of irony to them first.

    • @[email protected]
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      The term ‘magat’ is just so on the nose, no matter how deep you go with the analogy.

      A maggot is a mindless sack of flesh that wriggles and writhes all over itself and its neighbors, feeding on a constant diet of rot and decay. And if it survives that stage? It becomes a fly, attracted to steaming piles of shit, regurgitating the same diet that it feeds on just to consume it again, and then buzzing off to distract, annoy, and generally piss off the regular folk who are just trying to get on with their day.

      • @[email protected]
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        13 months ago

        Sorry, but Kahneman1-mind, imprint->reaction mind, including all ideology/prejudice/“religion”,

        CANNOT solve the problem that Kahneman1-mind created.

        Einstein got that right: a different level of mind is required to dismantle the problems created with a particular level of mind.

        Cultivating automatic-prejudice against MAGA cult members just polarizes things even more.

        Only Kahneman2-mind, considered-reasoning, CAN counter ideology’s highjacking-of-the-entire-planet-for-its-tantrum, that it’s working-up-to, this decade.

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  • breakfastmtn
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    3 months ago

    Ummmm… we’ll take the tariffs. Some offense, Americans. (jk love you guys)

  • acargitz
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    193 months ago

    Why isn’t Canada summoning the US ambassador to demand official explanations?

    • @[email protected]
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      203 months ago

      They don’t need explanation or translation for “he dumb and doesn’t understand money outside of wanting more”.

    • @[email protected]
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      63 months ago

      The situation is embarrassing enough. No need to bring shame to the ambassador that most likely heard about it from some news outlet too.

    • @[email protected]
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      53 months ago

      The Canadian prime Minister went and spoke directly to Trump.

      And Trump laughed him off.

      And how do you know the ambassador hasn’t already had those meetings?

      Canadian officials have been in communication with American governers, senators, congressmen and even mayors to discuss the situation and what sort of response they might expect.

      A big part of the problem is that Trump doesn’t listen to the advice of anyone once he gets some stupid idea stuck in his head.

      • acargitz
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        83 months ago

        But it’s all shit talking and “jokes”. Summoning the ambassador, the Canadian government as an institution can officially demand an official response from the US government as an institution. Sovereign state to sovereign state. This is serious business not a social media exchange.

        It would basically demand the US government to produce its formal demands of Canada. Anything else should be ignored as farts and white noise.

  • Hegar
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    Putin hired him to start pointless nonsensical arguments with our nearest and most vital allies and that’s what he’s gonna do.

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        Nobody would give a fuck about pee tapes. Cee-pee tapes, maybe, but even then it might still not be enough to bring him down at this point.

        Otherwise, it’s 100% clear Trump is doing this shit because he’s a Putin fanboi and fascist true believer, not because he’s somehow being coerced. Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt.

      • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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        103 months ago

        I’d like to see MAGA’s cognitive dissonance in trying to conceptualize Trump getting peed on as a power move of his

        • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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          63 months ago

          Trump getting peed on

          That didn’t happen. Trump is famously a germaphobe.

          What allegedly happened:

          Trump “hated” Obama so much that when he stayed at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Moscow, he hired the presidential suite (Report 80), but did not stay in it.[233] There he employed “a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him”[127][225][234] in order to defile the bed used by the Obamas on an earlier visit. The alleged incident from 2013 was reportedly filmed and recorded by the FSB[235] as kompromat.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

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        323 months ago

        Any taped content wouldn’t sway his cult of loonies. The guy rapes and fantasizes about shooting people on the street. Could be just psycho machismo why they’re colluding

  • Queen HawlSera
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    243 months ago

    How does this lower the price of my god damn eggs?

    Also he does know that Canada would be yet another blue state right?

    • Pyr
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      123 months ago

      Each province/territory would insist on being its own state so Canada would at least probably become 10 blue states and 3 red states if not 11/2. Not sure how Manitoba would swing.

      • @[email protected]
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        73 months ago

        Not sure how Manitoba would swing.

        Given that our current government is NDP after a disastrous period of the previous conservative government, I would expect Manitoba would generally vote to the left of most states.

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    443 months ago

    Besides this being a distraction, it’s more likely that in this case Canada would end up politically annexing the USA:

    • The 2 Senators and 50 something electoral votes for “Canada State” would mean that Canadians would end up controlling US politics. :D

    Of course if one assumes that elections remain binding in the Turd Reich.

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    1043 months ago

    So many people are extremely missing the point here

    Trump is purposefully threatening Canada to give his canadian conservative buddy Poilievre something to “fight” against, to make him look good

    “Wow Poilievre is standing up against Trump, I’m gonna vote for him!”

    That’s the game plan, in reality the two dipshits are best buds and can collude together to fuck over both countries extra hard, after conservatives get a majority over here.

    It’s a stunt to get conservatives in charge over here “against” Trump, which is so fucking stupid and yet it’s probably gonna work cuz so many people are gonna fall for it.

    I don’t think the liberal party has a good play against it, other than if our new liberal leader challenges Trump and musk to a boxing match and literally bears the shit out of them on live television

    I unironically think the Lincoln “I’ll fight you let’s go right now” leader who seriously fucks up Musk or Zuckerberg or any of those dipshits on live television would actually win by a landslide here

    It’s fuckin stupid but that’s what works apparently…

    • @[email protected]
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      223 months ago

      Trump is purposefully threatening Canada to give his canadian conservative buddy Poilievre something to “fight” against, to make him look good

      This theory is predicated on 1) Trump remembering who PP is, 2) caring enough about who is running Canada to have it drive policy.

      I don’t think either of these things are true.

      • @[email protected]
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        63 months ago

        They literally have meetings, and Trump obviously cares about conservatives willing to help him grift being in charge…

    • @[email protected]
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      483 months ago

      The Conservative Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, is already doing that. I’ve heard his ads on the radio calling for Ontarioans to give him a majority government so he “can stand up to Trump”. The guy spent his time as Premier standing up to nurses and bike lanes. This new stand up against Trump shtick is just more faux populism.

        • @[email protected]
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          53 months ago

          The centre to left is against it as much if not more than the conservatives. If anything, PP has been awfully silent on the whole thing. And don’t even look up how Danielle Smith (conservative premier of Alberta) is responding

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          93 months ago

          Sides. But try not to get caught up in the us vs them drama.

          The key point is that Mr Ford is using populism to promote populism, with no actual history where he stands up to bullies as much as he stands up to caregivers and citizens; and populism is the schtick of his party and the national cons, but isn’t a common thread in other parties as they campaign on rights and consolidated services instead.

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      23 months ago

      other than if our new liberal leader challenges Trump and musk to a boxing match and literally bears the shit out of them on live television

      That would probably get me to vote liberal for the first time in my life

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      53 months ago

      I don’t think the liberal party has a good play against it, other than if our new liberal leader challenges Trump and musk to a boxing match and literally bears the shit out of them on live television

      Ahh, well that’s not good. Love him or hate him, I think one thing everyone could agree on about Trudeau is that he’d do pretty well in a politician boxing league.

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        13 months ago

        Trudeau is out, we are voting in a new leader shortly

        Hopefully they vote someone in who unironically would challenge dipshits to boxing matches

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      Is electoral reform still a policy of the liberal party. Will they Lucy football is away once the election is over again?

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      Trump is purposefully threatening Canada to give his canadian conservative buddy Poilievre something to “fight” against, to make him look good

      Except Polierve has been the slowest and the quietest to speak out against this bullshit that Trump is trying to pull.

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    153 months ago

    I bet he’ll end up sprinkling in a handful of very specific exemptions. These are what we need to slap export taxes on. Doesn’t need to be much, but match his 25%. At best it’ll hammer them where they need it, at worst it’ll keep things fair for all our exporters.

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    I still don’t think he realizes the tariffs he keeps threatening us with hurt his people way more…

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      143 months ago

      By “his people,” you mean most voters, yeah.

      But for high millionaires/billionaires, this is effectively a regressive tax that will benefit them.

  • @[email protected]
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    293 months ago

    And Canada collectively tells him to go fuck himself. Seriously, he really thinks that will make them want to join him?

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      There are a lot of MAGA idiots in Canada, weirdly enough, and Canada is about to elect the Conservatives under a MAGA-style populist hate-monger who borrows his promises directly from Republicans. As a Canadian, I don’t wholly trust Canadians to resist this hard enough, especially with almost all Canadian media being right wing and the Conservatives promising to shut down what isn’t.

      • @[email protected]
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        83 months ago

        Yup. America is currently riding the brain rot rollercoaster, and we’re waiting in line holding our ticket.

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        23 months ago

        I’m equally curious and terrified to find out where the line between “we love trump” Conservatives and “we need our own trump” Conservatives lies. Even if, purely for arguments sake, we accept that all his policies are amazing, they’re amazing for a different country and actively detrimental to ours. Assuming we get stuck with PP he’s going to have to make a choice. Which half of his base does he agree with? Will he stand up for our country, or roll over and hope the Yanks have their way with us gently. Unfortunately I feel he’s going to fumble and fail to do either.

  • @[email protected]
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    93 months ago

    Reminder that Tariffs dont work as a threat to other nations.

    The selling price is the same for the seller, they already give the lowest price they can profit from because the modern era allows international distributors to find a demand anywhere, the buyers are the ones paying the import tax for the same goods.

    If you were selling and then the buyer had a tariff you wouldn’t just agree to take less money as a result.

    • Victor
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      43 months ago

      Isn’t the point to make the domestic customers choose products from other nations? Why wouldn’t that be a threat to the nation that is selling?

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        33 months ago

        Yeah but it only really works if it’s targeted. Threatening blanket tariffs on countries that represent 60% of all imports (EU, China, Mexico, Canada) takes a bit of the impact away, it’s unlikely domestic production could handle all that. Even if it could, why wouldn’t American companies raise their prices as much as they felt they now could?

        • Victor
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          Probably true. I don’t know enough to speak further down this line. 😅 But I thank you for joining and sharing that! Interesting!

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        53 months ago

        I think it’s a “threat” but not a very good one.

        There might be 3 brands of toothbrush available to buy in the US but maybe all of them are manufactured in China. If you just tariff everything from China then US consumers will just pay more because there’s no incentive for manufacturers to absorb the tariff.

        It’s a threat to Chinese toothbrush manufacturers because it creates an incentive for other manufacturers to pop up elsewhere, maybe someone will start manufacturing toothbrushes in the US. These toothbrushes would be cheaper than the tariffed ones for consumers to buy, but obviously more expensive than toothbrushes used to be before the tariffs.

        In summary, because consumers are unlikely to buy less toothbrushes, they just end up paying more.

        • Victor
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          13 months ago

          These toothbrushes would be cheaper than the tariffed ones for consumers to buy, but obviously more expensive than toothbrushes used to be before the tariffs.

          I think this is my whole point? You’d obviously buy the cheaper one of the products are (fairly) identical. So the Chinese product is disregarded, and thus that market is being hurt.

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            Sure ok but to make that point you have to skip over all the other significant impediments to this plan.

            You need to build, staff, and supply a local manufacturing plant for toothbrushes.

            This is no small thing and not something that can be created overnight. It’s not even as simple as “building” a factory… you need the supply chain, and most of the requisite supplies probably come from China - plastic to make the brush head, plastic to make the handles, machines to form the plastic, and technicians to maintain those machines. If you want to invent all these things locally and avoid the retaliatory tariffs from China, that’s going to take decades.

            During those decades consumers will be buying the tariffed Chinese toothbrushes wondering why the fuck everything from toothbrushes to shampoo to laundry powder to televisions costs twice as much as it does in any other country.

            So my whole point is, there’s a “threat” to Chinese producers but it’s not very likely to materialise because the US will lose the political will to maintain the tariffs long before locally made products appear.

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              I was thinking more along the lines of choosing other manufacturers that already exist, that don’t have tariffs affecting them, but in case they don’t (exist), you definitely have a good point from what I can understand. 👍😁

              Thanks for explaining!

      • @[email protected]
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        33 months ago

        Idk but Trump just tried to threaten Canada with them so clearly some Americans don’t know.

    • @[email protected]
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      73 months ago

      That’s not strictly true, they don’t “pay the tariff” obviously but they do have to balance profit margin and lost sales. Tariffs are likely to decrease number of sales which does hurt their bottom line, the question then is if they just take a loss in sales, cut into their profit margins trying to lower the price to the US (very unlikely the margins are nearly enough for this to be viable let alone preferable) or increase prices further to offset the lower sales. Probably will be mostly the former with raw material type goods and mostly the latter with high end finished goods.

      • Victor
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        Right, that’s what I was thinking. Surely it hurts the seller. But it also hurts the buyer, so it’s like 🙄 well done, Trump…

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    Here’s the plan. The Northern US states all join Canada. The Southern Half of US states join Mexico. The US is gone. Canada & Mexico join to become 1 huge nation. (putin shits himself!) And then we deport ALL the conservatives out of North America, and live happily ever after. Problem solved. You’re Welcome.