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There are certain places I actually miss cigarette smell in. Most importantly, bowling alleys. They just aren’t the same anymore. It was part of the ambiance.
Did you stop bowling for a while? Over time my idea of “bowling alley smell” gradually shifted to wax, spilled drinks, and well-oiled antique machinery.
I wouldn’t change it back. Now it smells more distinctive from everywhere else.
Yes, I did. I bowled a lot when I was younger, I was even on the varsity bowling team at my high school. That was the last time I regularly bowled. Now it’s like, once or twice a year.
yummy cancer juice
I remember going into cafés and things when I was a young man about 14 years old… You wouldn’t be able to see across a small room for the sheer fog bank of cigarette smoke.
We didn’t think anything of it
It used to be a constant conversation when we would go out to eat. My dad would say, “I think someone is smoking in this section!”
A smoking section in a bar is like a peeing section in a pool.
It still smells of automotive exhaust. So they might have idea after all.
We visited friends in Serbia in summer. It took me back to this smoking world I had long forgotten. Inside smoking and non smoking tables in crowded cafes side by side. And the craziest part was the indoor playgrounds for kids with cafes adjacent or part of it where you could also smoke (and buy hard liquor). But you know what, my kid could play for less than 1,5€ an hour on a rainy day, even when I lived in Munich there were like 2 indoor playgrounds in a 50 km radius and they cost a fortune. They had them everywhere for dirt cheap. So, I’ll happily get off my high horse.
Look at pictures of people in their 30s back in the 70s, and compare them to people in their 30s today. It’s a massive difference, I hypothesize that it’s the leaded gasoline and secondhand smoke that makes it although I’m not aware of any science to back that up.
More stress, tbh. We’re starting to see it swing back, a lot of millennials look older than their Genx counterparts at the same age
Probably a lot of it was first hand smoke.
There is a lot of science to back it up, but all of it is on the opposite direction (those things cause aging), and we can’t really tell if the aging we saw was caused by any of them or if there was something else going on.
it was the chaos demons
Some of it is also styles. If you came of age in the 1970s, then 50 years on, you probably dress and have your hair done like it’s the 1970s. We associate those styles with old people and then see the same styles in old photos, which makes the people in them look old.
That’s only a partial explanation, though. A lot of that stuff did age you faster.
They apparently found a cure for cancer.
But not for brain rotAnd 500 more cigarettes
One of the few things America has done unambiguously right is the strong anti-snoking campaigns. I think my mom is the only smoker I know anymore
It’s so good that most of the og tobacco barons are dead and don’t have much power, otherwise current admin would be introducing mandatory smoking right about now
I did say it was one of the few, and vaping did kinda take its place for a lot of young folk
Smoging was almost gone here too like 10 or so years ago. Now it seems like almost everyone is back to cigarettes. I haven’t been on a single date with a non smoker in probably 4 years. I know a guy who has a pretty stubborn g Form of cancer for years, but he would never stop smoking. Everyone is like: yeah it’s unhealthy and all, but i’m cool like that. I get that and i don’t care about your health, it’s gross and you are a walking littering machine. There has to be better ways to be unhealthy
Can’t you smoke indoors still in parts of America?
There are still hotels with ‘smoking’ rooms in I think South Carolina and Kentucky at least, you definitely want to make sure you have a non-smoking room or you’ll be inhaling musty old tobacco smells the entire night, something I had made the mistake of once.
basically not in any public space, with rare exception.
Laws vary state to state. I walked into a bar in rural Pennsylvania that had ash trays on the bar and the odor hit me in the face as soon as I walked in the door. Don’t miss that one bit. Someone told me it’s still legal in places that don’t serve food
And it made about as much sense as having a pissing section in a public pool.
I remember in the early-mid 90’s going to pizza hut with my family to cash in one of those sweet book club free pizza stamps and the smoking section always being packed with other families. The other kids would be playing and having a fun time while all the adults enjoyed their refreshing delicious cigarettes while everyone ate. There was no real, “smoking or non-smoking” section. It’s was a smoke filled restaurant with the option to sit shoulder to shoulder with someone smoking a cig or being a few feet away from said smokers.
I’m old enough to remember the same things on airplanes.
At least the airplanes were designed to pull smoke downwards, which reduced transmission rates for covid.
I remember when the smoking ban was introduced in the UK and the smell of smoke in pubs and clubs was replaced by the stench of body odour, I was actually wanting smoking to return as it was a more tolerable smell!!
Either I’ve got used to it now or people have learned to wash because I don’t notice it anymore!
Did not miss having to dodge cigs at waist height on dance floors though.
It was sick near me, the pubs now clean up properly.
And plane and train.
It’s still this way in the place where I live 😖
I hate nicotine so fucking much
Sorry to hear that. Where is this?
I’m so glad the USA had such a strong anti-smoking campaign when I was young.
Well let’s just hope the tobacco industry doesn’t get the good idea to cut Elon or Trump a check…
Vapes are way more popular with younger audiences though. I don’t think tobacco companies care about getting more people hooked on cigarettes anymore, and they don’t need government help to make vaping more popular.
autistic person here, I still don’t get why people start. Like, I get that once you start you are physically addicted by the nicotine, but why even start? You don’t look cool, you don’t look tough, you only look like a dumbass who’s gonna go broke buying cigarettes, die in their 60s, and spend a painful life while reaching it because you are always exhausted and out of breath
Like shit, do weed or LSD, at least you’ll have a nice time, but cigarettes are just all downsides
Thats a new way of thinking about smoking tho, again back in its hayday it was seen as cool, ,tough, adult, badass, rebellious, etc which is part of why it got so popular… along with this alot of kids grew up with smoker parents (or smoker friends) so they didnt see any problem with starting themselfs
People generally start when they’re too young to really understand consequences, and there’s a tiny buzz you experience during the first few cigarettes. I think there’s an aspect of self-harm to the psychology of it as well (and obviously it is self-harm, but we don’t really think of it like cutting or something similar)
But back in the day it was cool.
You used to be able to light the rivers on fire too but Nixon helped ruin that.
By signing the EPA into existence?
Don’t worry, Trump is working hard to bring it back! Make Waterways Burn Again!